Be Careful With Commodities

PIMCO is one of the most trusted names in investing. Let's face it, the majority of the public (hell, most people working on Wall Street) lacks the sophistication to invest on their own. Funds of all shapes and sizes, as well as, bonds make up the brunt of the average investor's market related investments. Robert Greer is the co-manager of the Pimco Commodity Real Return Strategy Fund. In the following interview he discusses why commodities will continue to grow in value and why they are becoming as much a risk management tool as they are already an investment vehicle.

I bring this issue up at a time when many investors are quietly skeptical of commodity bubbles blowing all over the globe. As the world globalizes and the financial crisis continues to fumble along, saying that commodities will continue to grow in value has become near religious dogma. We have to remember, however, that for generations of investors commodities were always a speculative play over the long term. Being young and not having had money in the markets for thirty or forty years makes it easy for many a monkey to dismiss Greer's logic as common sense or obvious. Beware that logic. There are risks involved in commodity markets that make the toxic Z tranches of yesteryear seem paltry in comparison.

The subjects of Operation Twist and the ever-on-the-tip-of-the-tongue QE 3 are broached, if not given a full on treatise. I do have to wonder, however, how many small/individual investors will be comfortable with moving larger percentages of their portfolios into commodities. The more of a shift there is towards commodities, the more I see the little guy liquidity providers getting squeezed out even further.
If I am right, what does this mean for markets? Can we really have a liquid and functional market if only big money interests are involved? Can commodity growth in both size and scope impact markets positively from a functional standpoint?

As investing in commodities continues to rise in popularity there is a real danger of non-market related events becoming more of a worry for investors of all shapes and sizes. The odd political intrigue here, a calamitous revolution there have always effected commodity prices. This is a large part of why commodities have never been looked at as a safe investment. When you live in a world of low returns, however, sometimes you can forget the lurking dangers of volatility. As much as people believe in gold, silver, oil, wheat, corn and other staples of our civilization, none of them have been a safe bet forever.

I have to wonder at this point how close we are to a bursting commodity bubble. It doesn't seem to be on the horizon, but then again...that's usually when the unexpected tends to occur.

 

depends what commodities your talking about specifically.

Take a 5-10 year outlook on silver specifically, invest in the physical metal itself, i think your going to be pretty happy at the end of that term

I really don't see a downside to silver, maybe a bit of a correction along the way but its a store of currency (boom covers u for inflationary periods) and has many industrial purposes which will be needed as consumption demand continues (boom covers u for deflationary periods).

The minute were in a bubble is when your in a cab and the cabbie gives u tips on what to invest on

I would strongly argue further that Silver, has a long way to go and am open to other opinions and criticisms on this stance/metal

 
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wallstreetballa:
depends what commodities your talking about specifically.

Take a 5-10 year outlook on silver specifically, invest in the physical metal itself, i think your going to be pretty happy at the end of that term

I really don't see a downside to silver, maybe a bit of a correction along the way but its a store of currency (boom covers u for inflationary periods) and has many industrial purposes which will be needed as consumption demand continues (boom covers u for deflationary periods).

The minute were in a bubble is when your in a cab and the cabbie gives u tips on what to invest on

I would strongly argue further that Silver, has a long way to go and am open to other opinions and criticisms on this stance/metal

A taxi driver actually did tell me he was buying silver and gold the other day. The problem I have with your and every other gold / silver bull's assertion that it will continue up if there is inflation is that the metal has already spiked way beyond the level of inflation in the past couple years. Its price is clearly not just driven by inflation. It is driven primarily by speculation.

 
CashCow:
wallstreetballa:
depends what commodities your talking about specifically.

Take a 5-10 year outlook on silver specifically, invest in the physical metal itself, i think your going to be pretty happy at the end of that term

I really don't see a downside to silver, maybe a bit of a correction along the way but its a store of currency (boom covers u for inflationary periods) and has many industrial purposes which will be needed as consumption demand continues (boom covers u for deflationary periods).

The minute were in a bubble is when your in a cab and the cabbie gives u tips on what to invest on

I would strongly argue further that Silver, has a long way to go and am open to other opinions and criticisms on this stance/metal

A taxi driver actually did tell me he was buying silver and gold the other day. The problem I have with your and every other gold / silver bull's assertion that it will continue up if there is inflation is that the metal has already spiked way beyond the level of inflation in the past couple years. Its price is clearly not just driven by inflation. It is driven primarily by speculation.

What about industrial demand throughout the BRIC countries>?

Pretty surprised a taxi driver told you that lol, making me think a little bit harder, forget about inflation though

Lets talk deflation and actual demand in industrial products, electronics, medicine, etc

 

My family grows coffee in many countries in central america and the price is being fueled by demand, not speculation. God I love coffee!!

"The higher up the mountain, the more treacherous the path" -Frank Underwood
 

Two rules about investing- when the first fling cabbie tells you he is long something- short that shit. Slver way overvalued anyway. It's decoupled from the fundamentals and is tracking gold at this point.

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