Big Day for GOOG and AMZN

(Disclosure: I'm long both for at least the next day)

Today after the close, Internet behemoths Google and Amazon release their fourth quarter numbers. If pre-market action is any indication today, folks are expecting the numbers to be good (GOOG is up $30 and AMZN is up $6.50 pre-market). And this on a day when it was red numbers across the board in the global markets leading up to the open.

Google had some fairly shocking news late yesterday which I thought would have a negative impact on the stock, but apparently not. Two years (almost to the day) after buying Motorola for $12.5 billion, Google is selling it to Lenovo for $3 billion. That's a pretty significant hit, even for the GOOG. But when you think about what they're actually selling, I can see why it's a positive in the long run. Being in the handset space was causing all kinds of problems with their Android partners like Samsung, and the real crown jewel in the Motorola acquisition was all the patents held by Motorola - which Google is keeping and not passing on to Lenovo.

The expectations for Amazon border on the absurd. Consensus is calling for revenues north of $26 billion for the quarter, or better than an 18% increase over the same quarter last year. It's anyone's guess how much of that (if any) will fall to the bottom line, but AMZN is one of those rare cases where that hardly seems to matter.

In short, the street is expecting monster quarters from both companies and the opportunity to disappoint is huge. In Google's case especially, things got so out of hand after their last quarter's numbers that it hard to imagine them beating that. But who knows?

I'm personally taking a pretty cautious stance on the whole thing, because I don't trust this market as far as I can throw it - especially with all the recent EM malaise. To that end I've sold calls that expire tomorrow against my positions at a hefty profit, so if they beat and the stocks take off I'll be in cash at tomorrow's close. If they disappoint and drop then I pocket some redonkulous premium and keep the stock.

We shall see...

 
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I think this NYT article gives a pretty good breakdown of the Lenovo deal from Google's perspective:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/did-google-really-lose-on-its-original-motorola-deal/

The deal universe is abuzz about how Google lost billions of dollars in selling Motorola Mobility to Lenovo for $2.91 billion. After all, the technology giant paid $12.5 billion for Motorola, so clearly it would take a $9.5 billion hit, right?

Not so fast.

Breaking down the admittedly messy math shows that Google didn’t exactly lose nearly $10 billion on the deal. Here are some back of the envelope calculations.

When Google bought Motorola, the hardware maker had about $3 billion in cash on hand and nearly $1 billion in tax credits. So that brings the original deal’s effective price down to about $8.5 billion.

Then, Google sold Motorola’s set-top box business to Arris for nearly $2.4 billion. That lowers the effective price to roughly $6.1 billion.

Now, Google is selling Motorola Mobility — primarily the handset business, along with a few patents — for $2.9 billion. So we’re at about $3.2 billion.

It’s worth noting a few more things. In a regulatory filing in 2012, Google disclosed that it valued Motorola’s overall “patents and developed technology” at about $5.5 billion.

Moreover, it has drawn revenue from Motorola’s patents since the transaction closed, putting a further dent in that deal’s cost.

Of course, these calculations ignore the strategic benefits Google has enjoyed from the deal. It locked up important patents to defend its Android ecosystem, while climbing into a position to pick the right strategic partners for the Motorola hardware businesses.

Admittedly, Motorola has also run up millions of dollars worth of operating losses during its time as a Google subsidiary. But all told, the technology giant did not do so bad after all.

Update: There is one thing to keep in mind, however: whether the value of the patents holds up in court. Last year, Microsoft claimed victory in its dispute with Motorola over the value of standard essential patents, when a judge determined that a reasonable licensing rate for some patents was a shade under $1.8 million a year. That’s well below the $4 billion a year that Motorola had sought.

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AMZN has a major key advantage. People like to save money, therefore as long as AMZN can keep the doors open people will like AMZN. Therefore people will invest in AMZN, keeping the stock trading at stupid high ratios.

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I'm amazed you didn't mention Facebook in there too Eddie. I hadn't been really paying attention to the stock, but the thing's popped like crazy since yesterday. And who could blame 'em too, the money they generate from their click for content and (apparently) mobile is insane and growing. I still have my doubts as I'm not convinced they can move past being a social media fad, but it's impressive none the less.

 

Trade AMZN like you traded gold for the last four years....the volitility is mostly based on emotion. Trade other people's fears/greed. The company has huge big picture potential but as of yet the net revenue isn't really enough to justify the current price.

GOOG on the other hand is raking in the money and is only going to keep growing, and I'd venture that the stock price is definitely cheap if you have the long view in mind.

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