Brainteaser Tuesday

So it’s Tuesday and I’m guessing you guys are either burned out from modeling or bored out of skulls editing pitch books so I thought we’d play a little game. I know you’ve done this before, so you all know the drill: I post a brainteaser, you answer it, then you post yours for everyone else and they post theirs when they answer yours, et cetera.

Here’s mine to get the ball rolling:

There’s an oasis at the end of a desert and the exact distance to it is a thousand miles.

A monkey plans to bring all his bananas to the oasis and make it his home, but he can only carry 1000 bananas, and he must eat 1 banana for every mile to keep going. He has 3000 bananas.

What's the maximum amount of bananas he can bring?

If that’s not enough, here’s another for you guys to chew on:

I go to a party with my wife. When we get there, four other couples arrive at the same time. We all know each other, so we all greet each other. A greeting can be a handshake, a kiss, a hug, or whatever. When everyone is done I ask everyone how many times they shook another person's hand. All answers I get are different. Given that nobody greets their own spouse, how many hands did my wife shake?

Let's see what you got monkeys.

 

it costs you 1250 bananas to bring 1750 bananas to the 250 mile mark.

it then costs you 750 bananas to bring 1000 bananas to the 500 mile mark.

use 500 bananas to bring the other 500 bananas to the finish line. Easy game

The other one was retarded unless I'm missing something.

 

If the exact distance is 1000 miles and he has to eat 1 banana for every mile, then he will eat 1000 bananas for the duration of his trip. And if he can only carry 1000 bananas, then there you go - he can bring 1000 bananas and will have none by the end of the trip. Unless I'm missing something...

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Beef:
If the exact distance is 1000 miles and he has to eat 1 banana for every mile, then he will eat 1000 bananas for the duration of his trip. And if he can only carry 1000 bananas, then there you go - he can bring 1000 bananas and will have none by the end of the trip. Unless I'm missing something...

I got the same answer as Unforseen - 500. The problem doesn't say you need to take them the full 1,000 miles at once. You take 1,000 for 250 miles, leaving 750. Carry and eat 250 to get back. Repeat. 2 sets of 500, plus the 750 left from the third thousand - one-way trip. Continue the process each 250 miles. End with 500.

 
Nouveau Richie:
Here's one for the chubby kids:

What is the probability that in a given bag of M&Ms, all the M&Ms happen to be purple?

Nobody has taken a crack at my M&M question yet!?

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Nouveau Richie:
Nouveau Richie:
Here's one for the chubby kids:

What is the probability that in a given bag of M&Ms, all the M&Ms happen to be purple?

Nobody has taken a crack at my M&M question yet!?

The probability of getting a bag of all purple M&Ms is 0%. Unless you happen to have a bag of M&Ms from the '40s, and just so happen to be lucky enough to get all violets.

That said, when I was a clerk back in the day, I was told by my head trader in the SPX pit at the CBOE to eat as many bags of PB M&Ms as possible in 10 minutes (for a bet). That's when I knew I wanted to be a trader.

 
Nouveau Richie:
Here's another:

Is it more cost effective to kill a chicken for its meat or raise it for its eggs? Explain.

Depends on the time value of chicken meat. You can wait until the eggs hatch and those chickens grow, then you have 6x as much meat (or whatever). However if you're starving to death NOW, you'd better kill that chicken. It's an allegory (albiet a labored one) to the time value of money and also the value of near term liquidity.
- Capt K - "Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
 
  1. carry 1000 bananas to the 333 mile mark, leave them there and do it three times to accumulate 2001 bananas at the 333 mile mark. Then, carry 1000 bananas to the 833 mile mark, leave them there and do it again to accumulate 1000 bananas at the 833 mile mark. The other banana left at the 333 mark, you're gonna have to ditch. Then, carry the 1000 that you have the rest of the way to save 833 bananas. A similar question was given in the JSC interviews and i got it using this thought process. your goal is to make milestones to eliminate the number of trips u need between those milestones.

  2. you and your wife each shook hands with 4 people. This, i had to draw out and dont really have an explanation for why. The only combination i found to work was when couple 1 greets 0 and 8 ppl each, couple 2 greets 1 and 7 ppl, couple 3 greets 2 and 6 ppl, couple 4 greets 3 and 5 ppl, and u and ur wife greet 4 and 4 ppl each.

heres mine: you have 13 bottles of wine, 1 of which u know is poisoned. you have to serve wine to your guests in 24 hours, but you have no idea which one is poisoned. You have 4 rats to test the wine on, but the effects only show 23 hours 59 minutes after consumption. What method would you use to determine the poisoned wine?

 
rotinegg:
1. carry 1000 bananas to the 333 mile mark, leave them there and do it three times to accumulate 2001 bananas at the 333 mile mark.
Your solution doesn't work as you have to go back.

Using your system, though, I can transport 332 bananas.

  1. Bring 1000 bananas to 333 miles. Leave 333, go back. x2
  2. Bring 1000 bananas to 333 miles. Left with 6666. Total is 1332 bananas at mile 333.
  3. Bring 1000 bananas to 666 miles. Left with 666.
  4. Bring 666 bananas to 1000 miles. You're left with 332 bananas.

It is easy to see that this is not the best solution with equal intervals. 500 miles steps don't work. 250 miles steps give you 500 bananas which seems to be the best answer. Haven't thought about unequal intervals.

 

The answer to the banana question is 0.

The answer could be 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7, or 8. The question doesnt supply enough information to determine otherwise.

Only knowing the effects after 23 hours and 59 minutes makes this question a bit trickier, but anyways:

Leave bottle 13 out. If all rats live you know it's bottle 13. If any rat dies you know it's not 13.

Bottle 1: give to rat #1 Bottle 2: give to rat #2 Bottle 3: give to rat #3 Bottle 4: give to rat #4 Bottle 5: give to rat #1 and 2 Bottle 6: give to rat #1 and 3 Bottle 7: give to rat #1 and 4 Bottle 8: give to rat #2 and 3 Bottle 9: give to rat #2 and 4 Bottle 10: give to rat #3 and #4 Bottle 11: give to rat #1,2,3 Bottle 12: give to rat #1,2,4

See which rat(s) are dead, if any, the poison could be in bottle 13.

 

the monkey can bank 2000 bananas..........he simply throws the bananas in front of him, one after another, every time he moves the entire banana mass a mile, he eats one, and hes left with 2000. If we say there is an energy cost to throwing we would have to discount those (problem does not specify). Since carrying one banana cost the same energy as carrying 1000, the throwing shouldn't be a problem.

 

For the wine/rat question am I right in thinking that you could actually test up to 16 wines if you wanted to?

Logic:

You need to identify a unique set of rats for each wine, so that there is a one-to-one mapping between poisoned wine and dead rats at the end. The number of unique rat sets (assuming you number the rats as above and so can tell the difference) is:

4C4+4C3+4C2+4C1+4C0

=1+4+6+4+1 =16

gobigorgohome's answer is completely correct, I'm just illustrating that he could have, for instance, also selected the set 1, 3 and 4- and there are 16 sets in total.

The chicken question is basically identical to a model of collusion in an oligopoly. The key factor, as stated, is how the present value of future eggs compares to the (present) value of chicken (though the chicken only has one value as it is consumed immediately). The expected present value depends on 3 things- the expected number of eggs that a chicken will lay in each future period, the value of an egg to you, and your discount factor

A further complication (as noted above) is that you don't have to eat the eggs that the chicken lays- you could let them grow into chickens, and then eat the meat. Once you assume this, it actually becomes quite a complex optimisation problem (since there are infinitely many paths you could take- you could hatch the egg, get more eggs from the chicken and then eat n eggs, or n-1 eggs, etc). The result will depend on how much you like eggs vs. chicken meat...

afroman23

 

MXC, you're correct, you can check up to 16 wine bottles. The way I solved it was by using binary numbers, with each rat being a significant digit. I guess it was more natural for me due to my engineering background.

I didn't account for the monkey having to eat on the way back as well... Same logic though, so in that case you would go 200 miles, drop 600 bananas and eat 200 on the way back, repeat, then on the third trip bring the rest so you accumulate 600 + 600 + 800 = 2000 bananas at the 200 mile mark. Then, you bring 1000 bananas to the 533 mile mark, drop 334 and eat 333 on the way back, then bring the other 1000 and accumulate 334 + 667 = 1001 bananas at the 533 mile mark. Go the rest of the way with 1000 bananas (ditch the 1 you can't carry) and monkey saves 533 bananas.

Since my wine one was solved, ill give another: you have 50 black marbles and 50 white marbles, and are given two empty jars. You are going to pour the marbles into the jars however you want ( you must use all of them) and then an executioner will blindfold you and present you with one of the jars at random. You will reach in and pick out at most one marble. If it is black, he will axe your head off right there. How do you minimize your chance of decapitation?

Part 2: He then changes his mind and says if you pick a white marble you will live. How do you maximize your chance of picking a white marble? In case you thought the answers were the same, theyre not.

 
rotinegg:
Since my wine one was solved, ill give another: you have 50 black marbles and 50 white marbles, and are given two empty jars. You are going to pour the marbles into the jars however you want ( you must use all of them) and then an executioner will blindfold you and present you with one of the jars at random. You will reach in and pick out at most one marble. If it is black, he will axe your head off right there. How do you minimize your chance of decapitation?

Part 2: He then changes his mind and says if you pick a white marble you will live. How do you maximize your chance of picking a white marble? In case you thought the answers were the same, theyre not.

Perhaps too simplistic, but fill each jar half full with black marbles, then fill each the rest of the way with white marbles. When blindfolded, it doesn't matter which jar you're presented, just pick a marble off the top - it will be white. If he changes his mind and you require a black marble, dig to the bottom of the jar.
- Capt K - "Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
 
rotinegg:
Since my wine one was solved, ill give another: you have 50 black marbles and 50 white marbles, and are given two empty jars. You are going to pour the marbles into the jars however you want ( you must use all of them) and then an executioner will blindfold you and present you with one of the jars at random. You will reach in and pick out at most one marble. If it is black, he will axe your head off right there. How do you minimize your chance of decapitation?
You put one white marble in one jar, and put the other 99 marbles in the other. You now have slightly less than 75% chance of surviving.
 
Higheck123:
Anyone know any good brainteaser books?

The bible.

Still not sure if I want to spend the next 30+ years grinding away in corporate finance and the WSO dream chase or look to have enough passive income to live simply and work minimally.
 

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