The Unsolicited Job Offer

While many of us are always interested in moving another rung up the magical career ladder, concerned about “exit opportunities”, and generally always having an eye on the next great endeavor, the fact of the matter is few will truly “make it” (enter your own definition of that here). A lot of people talk about job boards, networking and everything else included in a job hunt, but few seem to touch on the rare unsolicited job interview. For that, I present the following story.

It was a rather chilly day in the frigid northeast as we were in the middle of a friggin long cold spell. I was just starting the new year with 2014 goals in my mind, a solid review from 2013 and some renewed ambition since I had taken a few days off over Christmas/New Years. Things were looking good.

My email pinged early on a Tuesday morning from a person I had met about 9 months prior when we had a basic introductory call. “Hey XXXXX, are you free to catch up over lunch sometime in the next week or two?” Sure, why not? My calendar was as bare as Jonah Hill at a pool party so I put it on the calendar for the middle of the following week. Frankly, I really thought nothing of it as these tend to come up on a fairly regular basis and I candidly forgot what this person’s role in the industry was to begin with so a refresher would be welcome on my end.

On an uncharacteristically warm day for this time of year, I set out to my lunch meeting, notebook in hand determined to come away with a few things to help remember who this person was and, just as importantly, how we actually might be able to work together. I tend to take the odd lunch appointment with people far removed from my circle but are good networking contacts that know a lot of the same people; takeaway here is have an agenda for each meeting, otherwise you’re wasting you time. My limited recollection was this person was looking for a company to buy and run through backing from a local family office.

The first thing I noticed was a strange lack of eye contact for the first 10-15 minutes of sitting down at the table in a fancy restaurant. Surely they weren't scanning the room as it was mostly empty. Just a weird quirk I guess. Then came the most surprising words of the day: “Bottom line of why we’re sitting here right now is I want to recruit you. I want to poach you from your current role to do what you’re doing but do your own deals with me. Do I have your interest?” While that might not be verbatim, it’s not far from it as this person was blunt and to the point. Caught off guard to say the least, I managed to stammer out, “Uh, yea sure it sounds like an interesting opportunity but I’m in a really good place right now with a solid team.” No change in facial expression whatsoever, though the eye contact took a 180 and they had a Mark Zuckerberg-like frozen stare directly through my eyes and into my soul. It only lasted a fleeting moment but I could tell they weren't enamored with my response.

Fast forward through the next 25 minutes while I was pitched a very convoluted and erratic explanation of their vision and my role (as a partner no less!) in that vision. On one hand, part of me is thinking they must be crazy. It seemed like an extremely aggressive strategy but that I can be comforted knowing there was enough money on their side to run with this for at least 2 years before we would have to call it quits if things didn’t pan out. Ok then.

What else was mentioned? Signing bonus? Check. Salary commensurate with my current base plus a few % point higher to help lure me away? Check. Bonus incentives for consummating deals, either ours or shopping to other buyers, maybe with a co-investment kicker? Check. Company car? Check. Freedom to do just about whatever I wanted so long as I produced results? Check and Check. So what is there to lose you might ask? Besides everything, not much I guess.

Thankfully, things wound down a bit and I was told to think about it for a few weeks and come back to schedule a meeting to talk about specifics and see if we were both on the same page and that this is a worthwhile pursuit. It did not come off all that crazy and the more I thought about it throughout the rest of the day, the more it seemed pretty exciting. Entrepreneurial risk without having to put up the capital and I still get to do a job in the industry I’m currently entrenched? What’s the downside?

Well, I currently do have a pretty stable situation with my role at my current firm with complete buy-in from the partners to pursue things I really want in our space. I do enjoy the team I work with and don’t have many complaints on my comp (although we all want a bit more, right?)

As I sit here writing this, the next meeting here is the make-or-break meeting and I know I need to go in prepared.

What say all of you? Has anyone been through a scenario like this before? What were the results? For those that took the leap of faith, how did things turn out? Very curious to hear the pros and cons from those that have gone through the exercise ways they found success and scenarios they would prefer to avoid.

No matter what, the strip steak for lunch was delicious.

 

Who would ever bring up company car perks in a situation like that? Whole story sounds fishy.

If you were in a position to recieve an unsollicited offer like this you would have trusted professionals and a network to lean on for advice, not a board full of college kids to troll. Whoops, look like you did just that, better luck next time.

Might be time for the last bastion of legitmate posters to leave this board.

 

Saw your post right after commenting - guess we arrived at the same conclusion. OP is likely an analyst (if that) who heard a story somewhere and filled in the gaps with visions from his wet dream.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 

you do see the star next to his name? that means he is a Certified User. We don't give that out without verifying that the member works in the industry and position they say they do. So while the tone of the post may have been a bit off for you, no need to call him a troll.

I'm pretty sure the point of his post was to raise the question on whether or not it is a good idea to break out on your own to get partner status with someone else when you have a stable situation...

@"skylinegtr94", i really think this depends on how many deals you personally are bringing in and how confident are you that you could continue to bring in deals at another shop? Who owns the relationships that are bringing in the most business...if it's you, I say make the jump because the odds are in your favor. If it's really your partners and you've only brought in 1 or 2 deals cold, then probably best to stay put....that's my advice.

-Patrick

 

1) You're a VP in IB 2) You are asking for advice about accepting a job offer, on an anonymous forum comprising mostly of high school and college students 3) You think company car is a perk worth mentioning in your post 4) You think Mark Zuckerberg has a stare that can peer into your soul

I'll leave others to arrive at their own conclusions based on the above.

P.S.

skylinegtr94:

On an uncharacteristically warm day for this time of year

Prepping for a novel to rival Nicholas Sparks, are you?

Move along, nothing to see here.
 

Wow didn't expect the backlash on something like this. I wrote it since it caught me off guard at the time and seemed like a relevant topic for the site. The question on "what would you do?" At the end is to provide for people to chime in with their own opinions or stories that are similar, not answer the question for me, specifically.

You guys crack me up.

 

Took a look at some of your older posts and you seem like an all right bloke. I suppose you used the colorful language to identify more with the younger readers here? In any case, the way your post was worded came across as rather lame, sorry.

If one skips past all the unnecessary stuff in your post, I'll admit the point you have raised is genuine enough. Haven't got an answer for you, though.

Move along, nothing to see here.
 
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What would the terms of the partnership be? Are we talking 1% or up in the 10's or 20's? I'm assuming it's probably not higher than that - but these things are really important if you're taking a big risk on a young venture.

Also echo Patrick's post above - if you're the guy with the relationships making things happen right now in your current position, then you should 100% go for it. You'll get more upside for yourself and be playing the same role. Even if this flops, having the experience is incredibly valuable and will only make you more desirable as a whole. The fact that they plan to pay you even more than what you're making right now on top of all that sounds almost too good to be true.

Basically - if you beleive in the vision and think you can really help make it happen, negotiate some good terms (re equity or partnership shares or however you structure it), then pull the trigger and get out of there.

Good luck!

 

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