Anyone following Formula 1 ?

Is it just me or Charle LeClerc is an overrated driver ?

Sure he got the car on pole but an apex maestro doesn't crash and can wrestle the car in a hairy situation. The Alonsos, Hamiltons, and Verstappens are clean cut drivers. 

LeClerc puts that Ferrari into the walls so many times it's unbelievable. 

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May 15, 2022 - 5:47pm
HardestOfHardos, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Verstappen and Hamilton, whilst slightly separated by age, I think are fa and away the best of our generation. Maybe throw Vettel in there too.

LeClerc is great, but not one of the GOATs in my opinion. I'd put him up there with the likes of Rosberg in terms of raw driving ability.

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May 16, 2022 - 8:21am
EnergyIBK, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Would add Alonso to that group as well. He just hasn't had the car to compete since the early 2010s.

May 16, 2022 - 12:11pm
longhours, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Hamilton may have been propped up by a great car, Russell is beating him in the same car. I don't think any of the current drivers are in the "goat" conversation. Look at what Jim Clark did winning in so many different series, Schumacher winning in cars that were under performing, Senna being Senna, no one has really compared to these drivers. These cars are far superior technologically than in the years the old school drivers raced, they are significantly easier to drive. Take Jim Clark and put him into todays car he will win, take Hamilton and put him into the lotus 49 he would be average at best.

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May 16, 2022 - 12:31pm
EnergyIBK, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Not a Hamilton fanboy at all (I'm frankly thrilled that he's not winning) but after following F1 since the mid-90s I gotta disagree pretty hard on that.

Hamilton has been a force in F1 from the day he started, well before he was in Mercedes - he's won races every year he's raced (including in underperforming cars) and came within 1 point of winning his rookie season (then won the next one). The guy is an absolute beast. Is he better than Schumacher, Alonso, Verstappen, Prost or Senna? It's impossible to say but I think those guys are all in the same ball park. Schumi and Hamilton both had OP cars for many years which padded their stats above other comparable drivers though.

Also re: George, if you followed the races, Hamilton has had better pace in pretty every race except Jeddah. Russell has been much luckier - was gifted safety cars in the last two races which put him ahead. I mean FFS, George was going to get passed by Albon at one point, lmao.

May 16, 2022 - 9:51am
CATBanker, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Personal take is that Leclerc probably has the raw talent and skill to compete with the top drivers atm (i.e. Verstappen, to an extent, Hamilton/Russell) but we all have to remember that Ferrari have only just become competitive, so Leclerc still lacks the experience of full-on competitive pressure that Verstappen gained battling with Hamilton in the last few years. He's mainly spent this time fighting with Sainz in the prior gen cars, and as much as I love Sainz, he's just not there yet, whether it's mentally or just due to raw pace. 

Just look at Verstappen's results this year, if the Redbull wasn't such an unreliable car, he would probably be leading the championship or the gap would be a lot closer, due to the Ferrari's absolute performance advantage so far. I'm not really a Verstappen fan but I can still admit that his performance has been stellar this year, and when he has the car to back it, he absolutely delivers. All in all, I look forward to the continued tussle between the two leaders and hope Mercedes can bounce back to at least fight in the top positions occasionally. 

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May 16, 2022 - 12:38pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I feel like if Alonso had the same car as LeClerc Hamilton or Verstappen he'd wipe the floor. 

Little sketchy on Alonso Vs. Hamilton given that Hamilton did give him stiff competition during their McLaren days. 

May 16, 2022 - 1:57pm
niubao88, what's your opinion? Comment below:

To be fair, Leclerc is still extremely young and inexperienced compared to the other drivers that are being discussed, so it isn't fair to compare him to the likes of Hamilton or Alonso let alone, Schumacher, Prost, Senna--guys who have had time to improve their skills and rack achievements over longer careers. On the other hand, Leclerc is still very much a developing talent who's just starting to reveal his potential

Even compared to Verstappen, Leclerc has only taken part in half the number of races, but still, this season he's demonstrated some pretty strong pace in qualifying which imo says more about a driver's potential than race results

May 17, 2022 - 10:45am
chairmanleague, what's your opinion? Comment below:

True. No one comes close to the likes of Lewis. He is undoubtedly the best of all time and he would have already been a 8 time world champion today had it not been for Daddy Masi sucking baby Max off. Biggest scam of the century lmaoo

May 17, 2022 - 12:09pm
EnergyIBK, what's your opinion? Comment below:

He's definitely not "undoubtedly the best of all time"; he's had the most dominant car in F1 for longer than anyone else in the sport's history so his stats are naturally going to be insane.

He's for sure one of the all time best but Alonso, Verstappen, Senna, Prost and Schumacher are easily in the same league, not to mention people from the generations before the 80s (Clark, Fangio etc.).

May 17, 2022 - 3:19pm
niubao88, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Kind of feel bad for Hamilton--if he had retired last season he would be remembered as easily the greatest driver of this generation, but now that merc has a crappy car, it's becoming clear that much of his success depended on having the undisputable best car on the grid along with a team that was willing to sacrifice bottas to improve his results

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May 17, 2022 - 12:29pm
Beer-Kleiza, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I think Verstappen is a better talent than Hamilton ever was, Verstappen's brilliance was even visible when the red bull car was utter garbage. Hamilton pretty much always had the best car in the league.

Although I got to admit I think Hamilton is a woke douchebag of epic proportions, painting the mercedes black, telling people to go vegan, wearing a skirt to supposedly support the trans people. Lecturing people on the environment while on his speedboat, 

May 17, 2022 - 2:17pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Beer-Kleiza

Although I got to admit I think Hamilton is a woke douchebag of epic proportions, painting the mercedes black, telling people to go vegan, wearing a skirt to supposedly support the trans people. Lecturing people on the environment while on his speedboat, 

Hamilton is a businessman. He knows the more corporate friendly and PR friendly his image is the more sponsorships and more business opportunities. 

May 17, 2022 - 4:32pm
trustmeimanengineer, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Personally think Hamilton is a dirtbag. He cries about BLM and things while being one of the richest people in the world. People didnt like you when you were 10? Boo hoo. Go cry into your fucking mansion. He's been bitchified and yeah he's a businessman. He's woke because he's one of the only ones on the grid who can be as the only black driver.

May 17, 2022 - 11:26pm
JonnyDrama, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I have been following F1 for the last couple years since watching DTS on Netflix. I really want to see Mick score some points with HAAS. I am also a big fan of Aston Martin. I like Vettel and pull for Stroll but I can't exactly articulate why haha. Not to sound basic but I gotta cheer for Danny Ric. 

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May 18, 2022 - 5:05pm
MMBanker14, what's your opinion? Comment below:

People shitting on Lewis might as well be holding a sign that says they started watching F1 within the last year or two. Bottas has taken an Alfa and finished top 5 twice and top 10 four times this year, and Lewis made him look like a bad driver on many racing weekend for years. In Lewis' first year in F1, he finished ahead of his teammate Alonso, who had won WDCs his two previous years. Then Lewis won the WDC the next year while his teammate came in 7th. He's beaten his teammates 13 of 15 years. The dude won F3 and the forerunner of what is now F2. The dude is one of the all time greats.

May 19, 2022 - 10:35am
chairmanleague, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Lmao couldn't have said it any better, its only Crashtappen and DTS idiots hating on Lewis lol. Anyone with even some level of intellect would know Lewis is the best of his league and of all time

May 19, 2022 - 11:13am
trustmeimanengineer, what's your opinion? Comment below:

He's not beating his teammate this year. I responded above. He's not performing this year, and it's a terrible look for his legacy. You just dont lose to a "rookie." Russell has literally only ever been in a freaking Williams, and he is not on the same tier as Hamilton/Verstappen. Lewis is either failing to put in the work or has been propped up by the dominant car. I'm not saying he's shit over his career. I'm saying he's shit right now, which throws a bit of question into if he is really a GOAT or just very, very good and had a beast car

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May 19, 2022 - 1:04pm
MMBanker14, what's your opinion? Comment below:

SMH. (1) George is not a rookie or a "rookie". It's his fourth year. It's not like he's in a different sport in a Williams. Literally anyone not named Verstappen or Leclerc would've loved to get the nod for the Mercedes seat this past offseason. (2) George is a very skilled driver. He won GP3 and F2 championships. He dragged a Williams to 4 top-10 finishes last year, and had P2 in qualifying at Spa last year. (3) Lewis could come in 20th every race for the rest of the year and his legacy wouldn't take a hit. If Tom Brady misses the playoffs this year, no one questions his achievements. (4) George is used to driving a shitbox, and may have adapted slightly quicker to the '22 Mercedes than Lewis. It doesn't call into question his status. (5) Lewis is getting old. He may not be as fast as he once was. Will anyone shit on Brady if his arm is a little weak this year?

And as I pointed out above, Lewis has outqualified George in 3/5 races so far. George has gotten lucky with some safety cars and that's the main reason he's ahead on points.

May 22, 2022 - 3:32pm
BobTheBaker, what's your opinion? Comment below:
MMBanker14

People shitting on Lewis might as well be holding a sign that says they started watching F1 within the last year or two. Bottas has taken an Alfa and finished top 5 twice and top 10 four times this year, and Lewis made him look like a bad driver on many racing weekend for years. In Lewis' first year in F1, he finished ahead of his teammate Alonso, who had won WDCs his two previous years. Then Lewis won the WDC the next year while his teammate came in 7th. He's beaten his teammates 13 of 15 years. The dude won F3 and the forerunner of what is now F2. The dude is one of the all time greats.

They aren't shitting on Lewis for sporting reasons bro. That much should be obvious. No point in wasting your time.

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May 24, 2022 - 11:27am
JerryOfTheDay, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I think Leclerc has the most raw talent of any driver on the grid. However, he absolutely lacks the top end experience and drives more reckless than the other top drivers (you saw this with Max 2 years back), but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if in the next year or two he is winning titles (or even this year). It will be him vs Max for the foreseeable future IMO. 

May 24, 2022 - 10:48pm
equityanarchist, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You boys jacked for this weekend? Hopefully Charles can break the Monaco curse given the crash in lauda's old whip a couple weeks ago. If Charles wins this weekend + a few others, it seems he's on pace for a strong career with a chance at a championship. Have only been watching since 2014 but I feel on raw talent and the ability to push a car to the limit it's the Dutchman atm.

May 29, 2022 - 12:28pm
papertiger, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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May 29, 2022 - 12:40pm
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