Buffalo shooting was the product that of right-wing rhetoric.

I sorry if you were the victim of any hate crimes that held you back in your life.  We should continue to make the world a better place and should work to equality for all, but I think to say that racism is limited to one party, due to your experience with it during one period of your life is a bit misleading. 

Highschool is already a very weird place for a lot of people and I am sure that bullying/harassments is only amplified in a all-boys school, but to say that racism doesn't exist else where I think would be putting a very limited view of where hate and malicious intentions can come from. I mean you cannot conclusively say if you went to a public school you would not experience the same thing. On the other hand, College can often be a very eye opening experience for a lot of people (not to mention a stage of maturing in life) and I would be willing to bet that a more mature environment often can reduce a lot of bad behaviors when people actually think about repercussions of actions.  

All I am trying to say is that if we want to keep alienating people, based on political views, race, status, etc. then you are going to having more fringe people out in the world potentially doing harmful things.  

Yes, that's why I said "well aware that it takes two to tango and the right wing is not exempt from also stoking these tensions"

Let's think about the ways this makes him money:

a) he backs out of the deal to make pennies of profit (relative to his wealth) on the shares he bought before tendering an offer for the whole company. The SEC legitimately jumps down his throat as this wasn't him tweeting Tesla, this was a full blown legitimate offer that shifted the value of Twitter by billions. Huge legal implications. Terrible look for him. Horrible take

b) he runs Twitter which while it has started to produce profit, is not a cashflow machine whatsoever

Elon bought this because he is sick and tired of the left dogma perpetuated on Twitter, all social media platforms, and really on the internet as a whole (and society). You think this man really cares to invest in something like Twitter to make money? To tender a takeover offer to make money? He has clearly been able to produce far more profit investing in himself/things he creates and being the sole owner from the start. Buying a pre-existing company offers fractions of the returns of being an early investor in something you start. With his resources, mind, and connections, he can and will start more companies that will outearn Twitter even if he owns it for the rest of his life.

Terrible take.

tall_investor

How is what you're saying any different from racially profiling anyone else?

What if I told my kids to avoid black kids as they become criminals? Honestly. Insanity.

The guy who shot up Buffalo is insane and deserves everything they throw at him, but divisiveness and blame and collective guilt in our society has led to this and will continue to lead to this until it calms. The solution is not further "other-izing" young, white men, telling them the world's problems is their fault and they are privileged while they grow up in an environment where they are told the future is female on a daily basis and when applying to anything worth applying to, they face higher testing standards and fewer spots for them.

Well this is something you need to learn to live with thanks to your forefathers.

Whites adulterated the world more than any group in recent times. Your Germanic tribe forefathers from North and West Europe colonized the world during the Age of Exploration and siphoned wealth and power to nations at the cost of Blacks Browns and other races.

It is natural for there to be much pent up anger against the sons of Germanic tribes. 

Great achievements of the sons of Germanic tribes:

1. Industrial scale genocide (Aushwitz)

2. Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade 

3. Decimation of Native Americans alias Indians of USA

4. Decimation of Mayans, Incas, Aztecs and other Indians thanks to smallpox importation from Europe

5. Creation of violence in Middle East from drawing the borders around people who hate each other and putting them together despite their internal differences (Sykes-Picot, Andurand Line in Afghanistan)

6. Segregation in South Africa

7. Treatment of people of Aboriginal tribes in Australia

8. Stereotypes of East Asians

Wakey wakey, maybe some like you for your facial features here or radiating skin glow but you are a mostly hated lot by all other groups and much of this is due to what your forefathers have done.

As for why many flock to white nations ? Simple. Money. If they loved you so much they'd assimilate right, but even that's not happening with black and brown ghettoes across the nations created by Germanic tribe descendants. 

Ergo Clears

I'd be mad at white men too if I was asian and my women were constantly fucking white men. Go on, lad, get it all out.

This is actually a misconception.

1 billion Indians live in India and 1 billion Chinese live in China.

Given how very few white people populate India and China, there are a minimum of 2 billion Asians who fuck other - Asians.

PeRmAnEnTiNtErN

I just want to preface this, that I am coming from this at a point of view of actual curiosity and trying to have a conversation.  

So you say Trump encouraged an environment that made espousing white supremacist views more acceptable.  White supremacists were marginalized prior to Trump taking office. Do you think that white supremacist views have been marginalized with the new administration? / If not, do you think we ever move back to a pre trump era?  

There were many things that Trump did and said, that were like ear candy for disenfranchised less educated white people.  I am not really sure what the current administration has done not done regarding this issue.  I do not follow it very closely.  I would say that as long as conservative media and republicans continue to align themselves with Trump, my guess is that we will not be going to back to the pre trump era any time soon.  

dapp43758

Republicans talk about race all the time, they're just cryptic about it. Literally all the states that held slaves are majority conservative and republicans and Tucker and Trump divisive, vitriolic and reductionistic bullshit fosters people like the buffalo killer. Seriously, all the racism I ever experienced in my life has been from conservatives.

In their twisted minds, they think that liberals are racists. I grew up in area with lots of racism and antisemitism.  Just about everyone of them was a conservative.  There is overlap with a lack of education and biased views, though.   These people were not educated nor did they have any intention of becoming educated.  With the exception of some older folks, most liberal people I know are not racists. With that said, my circle of friends, business associates and acquaintances is a pretty homogenous group.  I may not be familiar with the liberals who are biased.  

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Assumptions with zero proof.

love this thought process and the mental fucking gymnastics it took to get there. Shooter was a self-admitted leftist, in a thread about fuck conservatives because (insert obtuse reason). But it wasn't his leftist ideology, it was most definitely his "conservative predilection", whatever the fuck that means. Predilection doesn't even really make sense in your sentence, at least use your dictionary correctly when attempting to use 10 cent words mate. Do you even read the shit you're typing?

Define "right-winger".  Did you do any research on this before making this idiotic post?

I said proportionally, i.e. as a percent of total. it's partially because white people have less kids and partially because of race mixing. it's perceived as an issue by some people because there is an idea that once you're a minority, it's more difficult to keep a good position in society.

Both are wrong, but the issue is we've seen more violent right wing activity than left. A lot of it is soft violence too.

Also the Capitol Hill incident is proof that Right Wing Americans are another level of mania. 

Proud Boys, Anti-Abortion, a diplomat and that too the highest rung diplomat Trump calling Covid the China Virus, Capitol Hill issue, the black on Asian violence in NYC.

This country has gone morally, socially, conscious wise as well. The only thing keeping it in place is the institutions and systems of checks and balances and strong state and central government systems. If those failed too this place wouldn't be any different from a White, Christian, vast concrete jungle version of Pakistan or Afghanistan.

Simple summary - he declares he's a leftist in his manifesto. He described himself as a "left-wing authoritarian" and "populist", called crypto and bitcoin scams, was all for central planning, environmentalism, and against corporate profits/greed and exploitation at the hands of the 1%. As far as conservatism goes, he included some bit on how "conservatism is corporatism in disguise". Supposedly, there's a section called "CONSERVATISM IS DEAD, THANK GOD" in his manifesto. Does that help clear it up? 

These guys are playing mental gymnastics- trying to categorize him politically so they can act like they are not responsible. But the truth is the racist rhetoric that encourages hate like this comes from one side of the American political spectrum. It's horrible how such a tragedy could happen, and their immediate internal response is "what can we find about this person so we can distance ourselves from him", and not "how can we prevent a tragedy like this from every happening". Genuinely horrible people

Because gun control makes it harder for people to get guns and do things like this? You think it's a coincidence that we have such a gun violence problem and also the least gun control compared to other rich nations? We've had so many shootings that obviously we need some reform. Over 1.4 million Americans have died from firearms since 1968, including suicides and accidents. Guns are literally a public health epidemic. Also, the point of this thread before even saying anything about gun control was how the talking points of the American right literally have been used by extremists to justify terrorist attacks- like the "replacement theory" in this one.

The media has way more power than just through direct listeners. 

Direct listeners -> post online -> spread it through sites like 4chan. 

Have mainstream right media given light to some of this stuff? Sure, but you completely ignore what goes on in the left.  Completely made up interpertations of what happened in the George Zimmerman case by left leaning media outlets lead to 3 days of riots and almost a billion dollars in property damage. Turn out most of the information that people like Maddow gave about the situation was obfuscated, intentionally misrepresented, or outright lies.  But that's not the scary right wing boogeyman narriative so it gets a pass.