15 first rounds, 3 superdays, 0 offers-- what now?

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SA Recruiting at my school is finishing up, I've got no offers and need to regroup. I had 15 first round interviews, about half BBs and half boutiques.

My resume is solid (3.85 GPA, 800/740/700 SAT, HF internship, Big 4 experience, Case Comps, etc.) but somehow i've really been screwing up interviews...

I feel confident that I've nailed the technicals, but I think i've struggled when it comes to selling myself / my attitude / telling my story? I'm not sure what I need to focus on improving before the next go-round; has anyone had a similar experience or any advice to offer? I just emailed some of the recruiters that I felt like I connected with for feedback but no response yet.

Also, if I can't manage to swing SOME kind of banking internship over the summer, what can I do to give myself of the best chance at getting full-time offers in the fall?

Thanks guys, long timer reader first time poster and any advice is appreciated

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Feb 7, 2011

You need to have your story and your resume completely down... I think those two are by far the most important. When you walk someone through your resume, are they thinking "yeah, this person would be a great i-banker" or are they dozing off?

Feb 7, 2011
randombetch:

You need to have your story and your resume completely down... I think those two are by far the most important. When you walk someone through your resume, are they thinking "yeah, this person would be a great i-banker" or are they dozing off?

I actually agree with her for once. To be honest interviews are all about just that, the interview. GPA, school brand, club vp vs club treasurer cease to matter.

Practice your pitch. Practice your soft skills. Be ready with STORIES and anticipate the questions. As I posted in another thread, with a good answer to 'tell me about yourself' you control the flow of the interview and essentially set them up to ask you the questions you want them to ask.

Also always always always answer questions thoroughly, with personal experiences, or something that lets them match your skills to that of the position.

for example interviewing for an IBD internship..hardest/best/favorite/most challenging what ever you want to call it ,class? "My (insert adjective) class was actually one I just finished last semester. It was financial modeling and to be honest the class challenged me with rigid deadlines and forced me to be really pay attention to detail. For example I came in one class and he greeted us with a pop quiz assignment. We had to build a working model through the dcf using just his rough margin assumptions. I literally had 3 hours to build a model and turn it in. I felt like I was a real analyst.."

notice the use of I and not 'we'. Interviewers do not want to know about what the collective class did. They want to know about YOU. Also notice the use of the time deadline.

This is a variation of how I answered the 'what class' question.

I hope this helps

Feb 7, 2011

go to the bar and learn how to pick up girls, seriously this will help someone like you. Once you are able to pick up a few suddenly talking to an interviewer will become a little bit easier.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

Feb 8, 2011
blackfinancier:

go to the bar and learn how to pick up girls, seriously this will help someone like you. Once you are able to pick up a few suddenly talking to an interviewer will become a little bit easier.

This just doesn't make sense to me. What, if you can go out and crush ass, you'll rock any other social situation you face? They're just so dissimilar that I don't see the connection. Last I checked you're not trying to f*** your interviewer, right?

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Feb 8, 2011
2x2Matrix:
blackfinancier:

go to the bar and learn how to pick up girls, seriously this will help someone like you. Once you are able to pick up a few suddenly talking to an interviewer will become a little bit easier.

This just doesn't make sense to me. What, if you can go out and crush ass, you'll rock any other social situation you face? They're just so dissimilar that I don't see the connection. Last I checked you're not trying to f*** your interviewer, right?

2x2, I think the comparison is very real. Both are high pressure social situations that require you to keep your cool, think on your feet, understand the other person, and get her to like you. Interviewers are still human, and if they're charmed or feel comfortable conversing with you, then that's half the battle won because the interviewer's perception of you drastically improves. It won't matter so much how much you screw up after that as long as the interviewer leaves with a good impression. No girl is going to leave with a guy who's stumbling to put together a sentence, and same with an interviewer, who will probably just crush him even more.

Feb 8, 2011
2x2Matrix:
blackfinancier:

go to the bar and learn how to pick up girls, seriously this will help someone like you. Once you are able to pick up a few suddenly talking to an interviewer will become a little bit easier.

This just doesn't make sense to me. What, if you can go out and crush ass, you'll rock any other social situation you face? They're just so dissimilar that I don't see the connection. Last I checked you're not trying to f*** your interviewer, right?

This isn't about actually taking her home, if he does then great. This is about the concept of learning how to talk to people and tell them a story. few girls are going to give her number to someone who just babbles, isn't funny and can't carry themselves, just the same as few interviewers will hand an offer who is a machine at the technicals but, would be the WORST person to be around.... Last time I checked you are trying to get something the interviewer has, right? A job? How is that completely dissimilar to getting into a girls pants?

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

WSO is not your personal search function.

Feb 7, 2011

Reach out to alumni. Plenty of firms are still looking to round out their SA class.

Also, you may be coming across as too finance-focused and not a guy the interviewer could see themselves going out for a beer with. Any non-finance ECs or interests? Don't let people tell you that stuff doesn't matter. It is very important, especially w/ senior people who don't care if you know how to do a DCF. And it is the senior people who tend to have the most sway when it comes to decisions. Try to work your outside interests--whether it's pro sports or karate or whatever--into the conversation.

Also, since you alluded to it, what "attitude" problem do you think you might have?

Feb 8, 2011

Thanks for all the responses guys this is really helpful stuff. I think you're all right that I need to focus more on my pitch and soft skills rather than relying on numbers and experiences. I like the camcorder idea too i'll definitely do that.

I'm at a southern school in a frat and ranching/sailing/hunting/raging DT on the reg, and i've never had trouble closing with the ladies but in hindsight none of that has really come out much in my interviews. maybe it would help not sure how I would go about it though..

jimbo_slice:

Also, since you alluded to it, what "attitude" problem do you think you might have?

In response to that, I think my enthusiasm for the job may not be coming out in interviews and instead im coming across as "meh".. maybe i'll see and be able to fix that by taping myself

Thanks again guys- any and all advice is awesome keep it comin. And GOB your handle and pic are badass

Feb 7, 2011

You need to write down all of the questions that you were asked in interviews that you can remember, then have someone go through them with you as if they were the interviewer. Place a camcorder over his shoulder trained on your upper body and face. Go through all of the questions once, then look at the film to see what you look like interviewing. This will give you a chance to catch some of the terrible mistakes you are making non-verbally, plus it will allow you to get insight from someone else on how you should have answered each question. Takes about a couple of hours to go all the way through each time, but if you can go through once on a friday afternoon, once on saturday, and once on sunday, then you should have it dialed in and ready to crush some unsuspecting interviewers.

Feb 8, 2011
nb84:

You need to write down all of the questions that you were asked in interviews that you can remember, then have someone go through them with you as if they were the interviewer. Place a camcorder over his shoulder trained on your upper body and face. Go through all of the questions once, then look at the film to see what you look like interviewing. This will give you a chance to catch some of the terrible mistakes you are making non-verbally, plus it will allow you to get insight from someone else on how you should have answered each question. Takes about a couple of hours to go all the way through each time, but if you can go through once on a friday afternoon, once on saturday, and once on sunday, then you should have it dialed in and ready to crush some unsuspecting interviewers.

^^^^This

Feb 8, 2011

perfect lesson to any other chimps reading this. Do not underestimate the importance of mastering the behavioral questions and sounding natural.

Feb 8, 2011

What school in the south gets that much BB exposure besides UT-A?

Feb 8, 2011

hmm if I were that hardcore I would've taped myself interviewing good suggestion lol

Feb 8, 2011
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