1st year BB analyst, how soon can I leave for SM HF
Current first year BB analyst, how soon can I leave for a SM hedge fund? I know MMs will start to recruit around the 6 month mark but how about some of the larger l/s SMS?
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Current first year BB analyst, how soon can I leave for a SM hedge fund? I know MMs will start to recruit around the 6 month mark but how about some of the larger l/s SMS?
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Don’t
Why not
year is generally fine
bump, also a 1st year interested
Know a guy who left 2 months after training ended. He's stayed on the buyside ever since. No one cares as long as you perform but you obviously won't be able to return to that bank.
Only if you are dead set on public buy-side, why the fuch not? I can't think of any buy-sider who cares about what you did on the sell-side as long as you can model and think about businesses and pick winning stocks.
I can't speak for when you want to pivot back to PE or something.
I’d leave tomorrow if I could. When would funds typically start looking to interview
I’ll share my thoughts since I somewhat went through this process (ignore the PE title in username). It is possible to do the jump but it’s just not that common because HF recruiting is pretty random and there’s always a lot of competition.
I had the opportunity to jump to HF less than a year out of banking. I was in awe with the idea that such a HF would consider me. And like a dumb analyst, I internally thought I was hot shit for being so ahead of the curve. I always imagined going down the PE path first
Some things to note should you choose this route (which is partially some of my lessons learnt)
Please be very sure of the strategy and type of investing you want to pursue - whether equity long short, distressed credit, or whatever. My experience is that it’s really difficult to jump around across different strategies. While your route to the buyside might be accelerated, you’re also getting pigeonholed to an investing strategy faster than otherwise. I also think that you’ll have to polish up on the modeling stuff yourself. Feel like you’re just not going to be that amazing at it if you’ve not spent enough time in banking or PE. My experience is that the HF role is not extremely modeling heavy as there is a lot of focus on other aspects of the investment process as well (caveat that different shops have different approaches). At the end of the day I can just tell that I’m not as polished as the PE folks and that bugs me every now and then. Finally, your network of friends may be smaller as you leave the bank pretty quickly and it’s easy to then get stuck in the bubble of your fund which obviously won’t have nearly as many people at a similarly junior stage as you.
I meant less than a year into banking.
But when you think about it, how much will I learn about public markets investing from IB? Not interested in IB BuysideHustle what’s your thought? Yea, for credit maybe
You won't learn much about investing in IB. IB gives you the tools needed to be a good hedge fund analyst: attention to detail, technical / modeling skillset, etc.
Much of what you learn will be when you land a job on the buyside. NA is right in that you need to figure out what type of strategy you want to pursue. It is very hard to switch investment styles once you are in a hedge fund role for a couple of years. You will get pigeonholed, which is not neccesarily a bad thing. Just need to make sure you land a job at a fund with an investment style that you believe in.
If a good opportunity comes along, you should take it regardless of timing because there aren't that many good opportunities these days. But if you want to max your learning in banking, most people really ramp up and start "getting it" between 9-18 months. If you leave prior to then, it's likely that you will not know much more than what was taught in training.
What exactly does one learn in that time period of 9-18 months that one wouldn't learn otherwise.
Experience. It's similar to the fact that you cant be taught how to be good at sex by just watching porn, you have to be doing it for some time to be actually "good"
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