Pretty simple question: How acceptable are suits with the three-buttons? They certainly look different because the opening to see the shirt and tie is much smaller.
I would be using it for networking in investment banking.
Suits...2 or 3 buttons? (Originally Posted: 09/11/2006)
I'm curious to know...what are the trends in suit styles on Wall Street for Associates and VPs... 2 button or 3 button? Do most stick to conservative 2 button styles? 3 buttons seem to be more young and trendy.
most people on the street also dress like fucks. i go bespoke for the suits, T&A for shirts, and usually fendi or D&G ties. Kick in some Crocketts for the shoes and you will look perfect.
How high do the buttons go? Depending on your desired group the area of exposed shirt should be different. My buddies at GSTMT say that an area of 13-14 square inches is ideal but MS M&A seems to like around 20 inches or so. Of course you have to take tie width into account as well since this hides part of the shirt so make sure to use the right formula computing the area of your tie (not skinny of course if you want a fat bonus). Also the more prestigious the shirt (french collar etc) the more shirt exposure area you want.
Actually, the three button is a trend. The two button is a timeless classic. Always go two button. And if you are on the taller side get the gorge cut higher. Never buy a three button suit. None of the Saville Row houses have three buttons RTW. Two button or one button is the only way to go.
I don't think I dress louder. I would characterize my style as British or Larry Kudlow-like. I only wear solid navy and charcoal suits and white and light blue shirts. The only thing loud may be my ties, even then, they aren't too loud.
Anyway, stick with the two button. Also, go make sure the suits fit correctly. I see too many with suits too big.
Wow, that was a little too much. I guess the only answer I need here is like this...
Yes, wearing a three-button suit is conservative and perfectly acceptable for IB where bankers are known to be picky about the smallest things.
No, this kind of suit is too flashy for IB. Just like you should never go into an analyst role wearing a blue shirt and white collar and red tie like you're Mr. Managing Director.
1 button suits are for fashion icons and homosexuals (often one in the same). You show up to a bank wearing a one button suit you get laughed out the door.
1 button suits are for fashion icons and homosexuals (often one in the same). You show up to a bank wearing a one button suit you get laughed out the door.
Um, listen here Texas A&M boy, one button suits are very elegant. They are not trendy. Tell H. Huntsman and Sons that they suck because they primarily make one button suits. With an OTR suit starting at 3K and a bespoke lingering around 6K Huntsman sets the Saville Row standard.
The choice of a 2 or 3 button suit has more to do with your body type than the current trend. However, all things being equal, 2 button suits are trendier nowadays. Until 1-2 years ago, the 3 button suit was more prevalent, therefore you still might see quite a few 3 button suits around since most people don't revamp their wardrobe annually.
One button or two buttons, certainly not three. Ones can be pulled off if you go for the right designer Dior Homme, McQueen, Armani and if your shorter. The two button suit, however, is the classic as jackdole said. I like two button suits with a double vent.
One button or two buttons, certainly not three. Ones can be pulled off if you go for the right designer Dior Homme, McQueen, Armani and if your shorter. The two button suit, however, is the classic as jackdole said. I like two button suits with a double vent.
Two button is classic--the three button is more modern. Single vent is also more conservative, and the double sided vent is a more modern italian look. As far as number of buttons goes, its personal preference really, but if you aren't getting your suits made to measure (which you should be) the you should pick the suit with the best cut. And FYI, it is absolutely never appropriate to button the bottom button on a suit. On a three button you can do just the middle button, or the top two. Don't do just the top button (and never ever button the bottom button).
What type of shoes do associates and VPs typically sport these days? I can't stand the thought of having to wear bland Allen Edmonds such as Park Aves. I'm more of a ferragamo guy...are ferragamo captoes and slightly more italian cuts acceptable or will I look like euro trash?
(by the way...I actually AM moving up the foodchain, I escaped regional boutique land...beginning a new gig in NYC next month).
2 button, notch lapels, double vented is pretty much the standard suit nowadays. The buttonstance for a normal two button suit will help give the appearance of broader shoulders and a slimmer waist, and double vents let the suit drape better if you're sitting down, or if a hand is in your pocket.
3 button is usually reserved for taller men to help balance the proportions (though I think a 2 button will still look fine/better; Kobe is an example of a tall guy who wears 2 button suits), but there are some interesting variations of it now, notably the 3-2 roll, where the lapel "rolls' over the 3rd button. It's definitely a bit on the trendier side though.
1 button suits are usually trendy; Asos, Zara, H&M, etc. love making slim/short/skinny 1 button suits. However, there are some examples of somewhat formal ones, and 1 button designs were usually used with tuxedos with big peak lapels.
TLDR; get a two button unless you are extremely tall and need the proportions fixed up, or you're getting a tuxedo.
2 button, notch lapels, double vented is pretty much the standard suit nowadays. The buttonstance for a normal two button suit will help give the appearance of broader shoulders and a slimmer waist, and double vents let the suit drape better if you're sitting down, or if a hand is in your pocket.
3 button is usually reserved for taller men to help balance the proportions (though I think a 2 button will still look fine/better; Kobe is an example of a tall guy who wears 2 button suits), but there are some interesting variations of it now, notably the 3-2 roll, where the lapel "rolls' over the 3rd button. It's definitely a bit on the trendier side though.
1 button suits are usually trendy; Asos, Zara, H&M, etc. love making slim/short/skinny 1 button suits. However, there are some examples of somewhat formal ones, and 1 button designs were usually used with tuxedos with big peak lapels.
TLDR; get a two button unless you are extremely tall and need the proportions fixed up, or you're getting a tuxedo.
This is great advice.
Buying a regular suit? Get a 2-button or a 3-roll-2.
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Three-Button Suit (Originally Posted: 03/08/2011)
Pretty simple question: How acceptable are suits with the three-buttons? They certainly look different because the opening to see the shirt and tie is much smaller.
I would be using it for networking in investment banking.
Suits...2 or 3 buttons? (Originally Posted: 09/11/2006)
I'm curious to know...what are the trends in suit styles on Wall Street for Associates and VPs... 2 button or 3 button? Do most stick to conservative 2 button styles? 3 buttons seem to be more young and trendy.
Most people go 3 button.
bump!!!
i think 2 button was a trend recently... but kinda fading out... i prefer the 3 button....
most people on the street also dress like fucks. i go bespoke for the suits, T&A for shirts, and usually fendi or D&G ties. Kick in some Crocketts for the shoes and you will look perfect.
How high do the buttons go? Depending on your desired group the area of exposed shirt should be different. My buddies at GS TMT say that an area of 13-14 square inches is ideal but MS M&A seems to like around 20 inches or so. Of course you have to take tie width into account as well since this hides part of the shirt so make sure to use the right formula computing the area of your tie (not skinny of course if you want a fat bonus). Also the more prestigious the shirt (french collar etc) the more shirt exposure area you want.
I've actually been told that most people stick to 2 buttons. Would be curious to get additional thoughts from others...
3 button is better if you're tall
Aside from your "bespoke" suits, Dan, you don't dress much better than everyone else I've seen...but you probably dress louder.
Actually, the three button is a trend. The two button is a timeless classic. Always go two button. And if you are on the taller side get the gorge cut higher. Never buy a three button suit. None of the Saville Row houses have three buttons RTW. Two button or one button is the only way to go.
^ lol at response
one button? i dont think so...
I don't think I dress louder. I would characterize my style as British or Larry Kudlow-like. I only wear solid navy and charcoal suits and white and light blue shirts. The only thing loud may be my ties, even then, they aren't too loud. Anyway, stick with the two button. Also, go make sure the suits fit correctly. I see too many with suits too big.
Wow, that was a little too much. I guess the only answer I need here is like this...
Yes, wearing a three-button suit is conservative and perfectly acceptable for IB where bankers are known to be picky about the smallest things.
No, this kind of suit is too flashy for IB. Just like you should never go into an analyst role wearing a blue shirt and white collar and red tie like you're Mr. Managing Director.
Thanks
I have a three button suit. Butten the first two or all three? Or only one?
Personally I think 3 button suits are ugly as shit and do not look professional at all. But thats just an opinion.
Why complicate things? Play it safe and get a 2 button, done!
2 button is trendier right now and if you are short a 2 button is a no brainer, as a 3 button highlights the shortness of your torso.
Actually, bobbyboy, here is the answer you need:
"No one gives a shit."
On a percentage (%) basis...how many associates and VPs stick with 2-button? (Would also be helpful if you sight the organization).
Thanks
Only the middle button on a 3 button
lol
Suits make me hot, I'd rather wear boxers, a robe, and flip-flops to work.
1 button suits are for fashion icons and homosexuals (often one in the same). You show up to a bank wearing a one button suit you get laughed out the door.
50-50 assoc 70& vp w/ 2b
Button the middle and the top, NEVER the bottom.
You can also get away with just the middle.
sounds good
If you are preparing for the NBA draft then it can look alright. However, i dont understand why anyone would buy a 3 button over a 2 button.
The choice of a 2 or 3 button suit has more to do with your body type than the current trend. However, all things being equal, 2 button suits are trendier nowadays. Until 1-2 years ago, the 3 button suit was more prevalent, therefore you still might see quite a few 3 button suits around since most people don't revamp their wardrobe annually.
One button or two buttons, certainly not three. Ones can be pulled off if you go for the right designer Dior Homme, McQueen, Armani and if your shorter. The two button suit, however, is the classic as jackdole said. I like two button suits with a double vent.
If you are Italian, then this is acceptable. Otherwise, it is not.
As long as it is well-cut and tailored if necessary, you'll look fine.
And don't underestimate the importance of shoes too.
But if you really want to stand out, I really recommend buying one of these.
http://www.mensusa.com/tools.aspx?id=238
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Sharp! I ordered 7, one for every day of the week.
did you get all the great colors? red, purple, orange and green?
what are your choices for casual clothing (bar/clubbing)?
oh you know it! How could I not?? Only a fool wouldn't.
At what height is a 2-button required?
Two button is classic--the three button is more modern. Single vent is also more conservative, and the double sided vent is a more modern italian look. As far as number of buttons goes, its personal preference really, but if you aren't getting your suits made to measure (which you should be) the you should pick the suit with the best cut. And FYI, it is absolutely never appropriate to button the bottom button on a suit. On a three button you can do just the middle button, or the top two. Don't do just the top button (and never ever button the bottom button).
How did this rule come to be?
I usually go with Boss for casual clothing.
RL/Lacoste for warmer weather.
Whenever I wear the ill one-button jumpoff, hos stay on the nuts.
As long as the cut is good and the suit fits, does it really matter?
What type of shoes do associates and VPs typically sport these days? I can't stand the thought of having to wear bland Allen Edmonds such as Park Aves. I'm more of a ferragamo guy...are ferragamo captoes and slightly more italian cuts acceptable or will I look like euro trash?
(by the way...I actually AM moving up the foodchain, I escaped regional boutique land...beginning a new gig in NYC next month).
my size but needs to be taken in for a better fit. Any suggestions on some good reliable tailors I can go to in Manhattan?
3 button fo sho
Three button for taller, but 2 isn't a biggie. What ever you do, don't do up the bottom button.
2 button
2 button, notch lapels, double vented is pretty much the standard suit nowadays. The buttonstance for a normal two button suit will help give the appearance of broader shoulders and a slimmer waist, and double vents let the suit drape better if you're sitting down, or if a hand is in your pocket.
3 button is usually reserved for taller men to help balance the proportions (though I think a 2 button will still look fine/better; Kobe is an example of a tall guy who wears 2 button suits), but there are some interesting variations of it now, notably the 3-2 roll, where the lapel "rolls' over the 3rd button. It's definitely a bit on the trendier side though.
1 button suits are usually trendy; Asos, Zara, H&M, etc. love making slim/short/skinny 1 button suits. However, there are some examples of somewhat formal ones, and 1 button designs were usually used with tuxedos with big peak lapels.
TLDR; get a two button unless you are extremely tall and need the proportions fixed up, or you're getting a tuxedo.
This is great advice.
Buying a regular suit? Get a 2-button or a 3-roll-2.
Buying a tuxedo? 1-button is the only way to go.
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