strato22:
100k for a first year?! How could any first year possibly warrant that kind of base, unless your not getting a bonus. You must have made it rain this summer.

Honestly I have no idea how they are willing to pay that much. I about choked when I was given the figure I was that shocked. All I can say is it really pays to have someone thats willing to go to bat for you. Develop those relationships as early as you can.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.
 
trade4size:
strato22:
100k for a first year?! How could any first year possibly warrant that kind of base, unless your not getting a bonus. You must have made it rain this summer.

Honestly I have no idea how they are willing to pay that much. I about choked when I was given the figure I was that shocked. All I can say is it really pays to have someone thats willing to go to bat for you. Develop those relationships as early as you can.

Im assuming this is your offer? Was there any talk about bonus?

 
trade4size:
strato22:
100k for a first year?! How could any first year possibly warrant that kind of base, unless your not getting a bonus. You must have made it rain this summer.

Honestly I have no idea how they are willing to pay that much. I about choked when I was given the figure I was that shocked. All I can say is it really pays to have someone thats willing to go to bat for you. Develop those relationships as early as you can.

I guess that's much easier to do at a boutique (and an added benefit). There's no way I can convince the compensation committee at my BB to throw that kind of money my way.

 

Yes there is a bonus. I didnt go that in depth and still only have a few details. I am being offered to help form a desk with some senior guys that I know very well. This is all very informal and clearly not the norm.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.
 

Citadel and a lot of other hedge funds will not be paying bonuses for a while. Considering they are down significantly (Citadel down 30%), they have to make back their investors money before they pay out bonuses. This is called a watermark. Furthermore, there is even talk of a few going from 20/2 to 10/1, at least temporarily, to keep the investors from pulling their money. In this market, I would take an offer at a respectable market-making firm way ahead of an offer at a hedge fund (with a few notable exceptions).

 
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cunninglinguists:
Citadel and a lot of other hedge funds will not be paying bonuses for a while. Considering they are down significantly (Citadel down 30%), they have to make back their investors money before they pay out bonuses. This is called a watermark. Furthermore, there is even talk of a few going from 20/2 to 10/1, at least temporarily, to keep the investors from pulling their money. In this market, I would take an offer at a respectable market-making firm way ahead of an offer at a hedge fund (with a few notable exceptions).

their first year bonus buckets were 40/60/100 last year, like you aptly stated, I also doubt that this will be the case going forward...I know that their watermark problem is solved -- i think they are going to restructure their kensington/wellington funds, then reset the watermarks...I know they are moving to a different approach (they used to be one big-ass fof...but I think they are splitting it up now?).

 

Both, but im not sure how that fits in with the legalities. I really dont want to say more as this is a public forum. Posted this mostly because I wanted to show others that "bigger isnt always better".

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.
 

The starting salary was raised to 70k for MER S&T? Was this for people outside the summer program? Summer hires were offered 60k/12.5k, were some notified that the salary was being bumped?

 

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