Hey guys,
Thought I'd start another thread for those of us APDs/ADCs (read: spent too many years in school) who are applying for full time positions either earlier this year in the Spring (BCG) or now during the Summer.
Let's try to provide sufficient data so it's less confusing:
Current location(Northeast/west/south)/institute(target?):
Firm(s) applied (spring/summer):
When did you receive an invite/rejection:
Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?):
To start off:
Current location: southeast + semi/non target
Firm applied: BCG (spring)
When did you receive an invite/rejection: waiting
Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?): Last year, Bridge to BCG took ~2.5 weeks until invites went out. I think this year may be the first time BCG is recruiting for full time consultants officially in the Spring (heard some office is growing by 40% annually for the past few years).
FYI, last year's roster can be found here: //www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/2015-MBB-advanced-degree-candidates-interview-roster
Good luck to all of us!
Mod Note (Andy): Best of 2016, this post ranks #15 for the past year
Thanks for starting the thread suehlee88. I am applying for the full time cycle this year. I didn't realize that BCG was doing spring require- I am at a non-target school in the midwest so information is scarce. Could you give some details suehlee88? Or a link to the spring application?
Current location: smidwest + semi/non target Firm applied: Bridge and Insight programs When did you receive an invite/rejection: waiting Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?):
Hi, I tried googling but the info is not coming up.. Our school got the information straight from a recruiter at BCG. The deadline for FT positions was also Apr 10th. Good luck with on Insight/Bridge!
Hi - I'm still waiting to hear too for the full-time interview. ADC. I'll be sure to let you guys know if I hear back.
Current location: northeast Firm applied: BCG (spring) When did you receive an invite/rejection: waiting Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?):
Current location: southeast + semi/non target Firm applied: BCG (spring) When did you receive an invite/rejection: 4/28 just now!! from Atlanta office Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?): Invited to FT R1 interview in ATL to be held Friday 5.13.2016.
I am so so so excited! Hope many of you share positive news and let me know if any of you would like to practice case on gchat/skype etc!!
Congratulations! :)
Current location: NE; Ivy PhD Firm(s) applied (spring/summer): Spring BCG When did you receive an invite/rejection: 4/28/16 Additional info (invite or no? when are they scheduling the interviews?): Invite to first round interview in NYC
Are you guys interviewing for a 2016 FT position?
Yes! Join the party!
Hi all - new to WSO. Is this for FT 2016 as in starting 2016 or May 2017?
There's a smaller cycle happening right now with BCG (for 2016 start date), but I suppose most would be applying through the major cycle starting in the summer for 2017 start date.
Hey guys,
Just to keep this thread going, I wanted to share that I made it to the decision round with BCG Atlanta office to be held either May 20th or June 10th. Please feel free to share your outcomes and the timeline! I will also share my interview experience after the final round this Friday.
Good luck everyone!!
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Is this for 2017?
Unfortunately, I didn't get an offer from BCG.. yet again. But without a doubt, it was an incredibly positive and enriching experience.
What I noticed this time was that the first round had many curve balls in it for both the fit portion and the cases (and funnily, the interviewers were kind enough to tell me they were going to throw me curveballs). First, on the fit portion: I'm not sure if it was designed to be, but the fit portion was a lot more conversational for the first round and it flew so naturally that I almost forgot I was being interviewed at one point. Also, one of the interviewers phrased his first fit question rather philosophically that I can see people tripping if they're nervous: relax and be yourself!
The cases are definitely not difficult-actually they are more straightforward than most you see in casebooks-but I can tell that BCG is looking for creativity and the extra bit after solving the case. For example, I was also asked to go a step further after my final recommendation for the CEO and explain how I'd convince the shareholders of my rec. Another note on BCG cases is that the amount of data can be overwhelming at times (eg. 2 sets of bar graphs + some text information in one exhibit or a detailed cost/rev breakdown of 5 different plants for comparison), and one should feel free to take time to digest the data and pick out relevant pieces/trends to note/dig deeper.
The final round interviewers for me were a bit more reserved and formal, yet they were very pleasant and approachable. For the fit, they both cared a lot about why I wanted to do consulting and why BCG/why that office etc. The other aspect they both cared a lot about was how I am as a team player. While selling one's strengths and contributions are important, I got the sense that they look for humility. The cases again weren't complicated, and they were interested less in my arithmetic skills but more interested in my business acumen and creativity. Ultimately, it was the first case where my brain just wasn't computing fast enough at the beginning during brainstorming that held me back.
Finally, it might be of interest to know that the final round feedback was given in 3 buckets: fit (does consulting/BCG fit in your career? can you deal with people in a mature way? are you a leader? did BCG consultants like interacting with you etc), case (math, framework/driving the case, creativity), and communication (clarity, presence, credibility).
I hope this information is helpful for those prepping for the summer/fall cycle, and if so, please pay it forward! Good luck everyone!
Hey, I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work out. I remember we went through the rounds at the same time last fall and that you provided detailed summaries for your experiences then as you have done now. I'm sure it will help people in the coming years.
Good luck to you and wish you the best in your next steps.
Sorry to hear about not getting the offer (but congrats on making it to the final round, which is quite an accomplishment in itself!). Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. It is definitely helpful! Best of luck to you~
I'm sorry that you didn't get the offer. But you had a positive experience, which is good.
Thanks for sharing your experience and interview process.
Has anyone gone through the adc final rounds? Would love to hear about your experience!
Did anyone get the Bain invitation from AIC attendees and others who have already applied? I just found out that I will be interviewing on September 12th for full-time position. Has anyone been through the Bain interview process and is it similar to BCG?
I attended AIC Atlanta and did not receive a full-time interview invitation. Did you submit another application after attending?
I got an email this week which said I had been approved for the 1st round interview after AIC. I still had to formally apply to have my information and preferences in the full time database.
I also went to the AIC and got pre-approved for a 1st round interview.
Congrats! Which office did you attend AIC at?
Anyone applying to MBB this month? I got an email from McKinsey for CEB test. Does anyone know what this means? Does it mean I pass the first round CV screening? or still part of the screening? They told me I have two weeks to finish it.
I submitted my application in Feb. way too early. I don't know if they reviewed my application. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
That's odd, have you sent emails to McKinsey to clarify?
I did too. And I am not sure if they are moving PST online and calling it CEB or if this is a prescreen... Anyone have any information?
Hi, yes the ceb is the new name for the problem solving test. I was told one of the principal differences is that you don't have to take it in a McKinsey office. The format is very similar, verbal and analytical reasoning.
I think that this means that you passed the first of the resume screening. At least for the Insight program, they only invited some people to take the PST test.
good to know..thanks!
What's your background? target/non target? I applied before the 7/18 deadline but still haven't heard anything yet (while a lot of my target/non-target school fellow applicants have received something)
I'm non target school. I received the response from recruiter on Monday afternoon, and I didn't get it : (
I think my school is target (since i can find the link in their system?). Phd in BME. graduating next year~
Hi All,
I was wondering if the format of the CEB test is different than the PST test? Does anyone have any ideas?
Hey guys,
I also applied to MBB FT position for next year. I don't know if you guys all attended McKinsey Insight and BCG Bridge. I didn't get invitation for those programs and encouraged to apply for FT (yea, standard response).
I wonder if any of you didn't get an invitation for the programs, but now have an interview offer?
If I included international office as my first choice, where would I be interviewing? Over the phone or do they interview in the US office?
Hi thereo, I applied to BCG and McKinsey summer programs and got rejected. For FT, I heard from McKinsey to complete the SHL test. Upon my performance, I will (or will not) have an interview in 3 weeks. For your second question, I do not know the answer.
sorry to hear that. Yes, I also didn't get the insight, bridge invitations. Still waiting for the FT application outcome.
I heard back in the negative last week. From McKinsey.
Hi All, Did anyone hear from BCG for FT yet?
Nothing yet. I received an invitation from McKinsey to do the CEB test last week, but nothing yet from BCG. Hoping to hear back this week or next week, assuming BCG and McKinsey are on similar timelines.
Same here. I did the McKinsey CEB test three days ago but I haven't heard back yet. Any ideas how long McKinsey takes to let you know your results?
Still no news on BCG. I am applying from a Canadian target school as an advanced degree candidate so I think that timelines are quite different based on your location and education status. That being said, I have a feeling that if you are very good, they generally let you know right away:)
Ph.D/Target school/Canada McK submitted 7/18, CEB completed, waiting BCG submitted 7/24 waiting
I was invited to schedule a call with the consultant/ADC recruiter at the BCG office I applied to. I'm not sure if this pre-screen is standard before getting an interview offer or not.
Any threads for the 2017 full time application updates? (i.e. deadlines 7/18 for McK, 7/24 for BCG, 8/5 for Bain)
the deadline for BCG is 7/24? I didn't see any info about deadline on their website and I applied on 7/27 : (. I received an auto confirmation email from BCG after I submitted my application. Hopefully it still counts..
The deadline might be different based on your school.
Don't think the deadlines are that early. Can confirm that McK, Bain and BCG have not started their recruiting process in Canada yet.
McK and BCG have already extended at least some interview invites...
Has anyone have received interview invitation for US offices?
Applied and dinged by both Insight Healthcare and Bridge to BCG this summer.
McKinsey cited since I had already graduated from medical school and was in the consulting workforce, they wanted to give other applicants a shot to experience it.
BCG dinged post-Bridge interview so I wonder if they will give me another shot for full-time interview.
M.D./ Non-target school/ USA McK - submitted 7/18, dinged 7/28 BCG - submitted 7/24. waiting Bain - submitted 8/01, waiting ClearView - submitted 8/07, waiting
Applied and rejected by both McK Insight and Bridge to BCG this summer. Got the invitation to AIC with Bain
PhD./ Non-target school/ USA-midwest McK - submitted 7/15, rejected 8/1 BCG - submitted 7/27. waiting Bain - preapproval for 1st round interview (9/12) a week after attending AIC ClearView - submitted 7/22, waiting Oliver Wyman - submitted 8/1, waiting
Status about me:
SO, if you apply regularly to Bain fulltime, would you please let me know if you have heard from Bain?
The confirmation email from Bain says that they will only contact candidate they want to interview, so I want to be notified at least on this forum that whether I am dinged at the resume round or not.
Thank you all :)
Is the McK Internship the same as McK Insight? Just wondering if there was a Keep-in-touch program for Insight applicants (I know people who made it to the interview round of Insight also got early first-round full-time interviews in August)
For what it's worth - I don't know anyone who has heard back from Bain for the full time application yet.
McK internship is internship recruiting, Insight is workshop. I think there may not be a Keep-in-touch for insight given that the people who made it to the interview got invited automatically already.
Thank you for the update for Bain!
Hum, I also applied to McK internship and was rejected after 2nd round interview. After that I was also in the Keep-in-touch program, but I thought that program is just a newsletter kinda thing that inform you upcoming webinars & etc... and I didn't get any automatic invitation to fulltime interview, even did not get an interview invitation after apply for full-time this summer.
The program is not just news letter. You will be invited to fulltime. If you still have doubts, you can email your recruiter! I know for a fact that for the people who are in KIT, they don't get invitation to fulltime at the same time.
(1) Don't think Keep-In-Touch means an automatic interview for full time (2) Full time timelines at Bain will vary by country. I am supposed to hear back by the end of the week
Hi thanks which country did you apply to?
For keep in touch, I am sure it means an automatic interview because it was what my interview told me and I doubled check with my recruiter before I submitted my fulltime application, my recruiter told me, word by word, it means "you are automatically invited for fulltime"
Did you guys get a reminder email from BCG recruiter to apply for FT?
Has anyone heard back from McKinsey after the CEB test?
Nope, still waiting..
Hi Eskans and zamzinnnnnn, When did you take the the CEB test?
Hi Ekans, can you share your experience with the CEB test, was it similar to the practice tests given on the CEB SHL website ?
Hi xiaopangp - So after interviewing for B2BCG and not making the cut, did you get an email about automatic interview for FT or you received a phone call? Also, what were the details of these interactions?
Curious as I got dinged after the B2BCG interview as well and received a phone call from my interviewer explaining how I could improve but no word on FT interviews.
Thanks!
Hi MD.C, I got a phone call from my interviewer, telling me that I did well in the interview, although they couldn't offer me a seat on the workshop, they would like to invite me to the fulltime interview in the fall.
So update on my status: Ph.D/Target school/Canada McK submitted 7/18, FT 1st round next week BCG submitted 7/24, rejected for the first round of interviews ( I made it to the interview for Bridge program, but did not pass it)
Hi zamzinnnnnn - Congrats on the first round from McK!
When did you hear back from BCG regarding the first round?
Yesterday evening as well. They literally came in together.
Hey zamzinnnnnn did you get invited to schedule a call with BCG before you got invited for a first-round interview?
Anyone who has given McKinsey CEB can you share your experience. was the test similar to the practice test on the CEB website ?
(Not sure if it's exactly the same as when I took it in the spring, but) Yes it was very similar to the practice test on the CEB website. Brush up your fast calculator skills, do a few practice tests, and you'll be fine :)
yes pretty similar to practice ones. I don't think that it is similar to PST, it involves fast answers that are not as tricky.
Any word from Bain or BCG to anyone yet?? Thanks!
Not Bain, but I have phone interviews with a consultant and project manager in the office I applied to at BCG.
When did you hear back from BCG and got the phone interview? Thanks
Thanks! When did you apply and hear back regarding you interview with BCG?
I haven't heard any word from BCG.
I haven't heard from either. Two of my friends have interviews, one at each, but they participated in the AIC/BtBCG events, so that's why. I'm getting nervous, ha.
I attended the AIC event for Bain in Atlanta. I still have not heard anything from them. Which AIC did your friend participate in?
Hey guys, I just joined the community! I am currently a Principal in BCG (joined 10 years ago straight out of university). I am also responsible fore MBAs and undergrad recruiting for my home office. If you have any question, I am happy to help
@BCG Principal" Care to share what is happening 'behind the curtain' right now? What are the timelines that we can expect to hear back? Does the process vary by 1st choice office? Who actually makes the decision to offer ther interview? Feel free to answer only the questions you are comfortable with :)
The process may vary from office to office, in general when the application is received the first screening is made by recruiting department (i.e. not consultants). They look for the three core consulting skills in your application and evidence of excellence in your past experience. After that, if they deem your application good enough they invite you for interviews.
Interviews are held in different rounds (the process here can be different according to your target office), but in general the first rounds are done by PL/Engagement Manager/Principal and the second round by partners. Interviews in first and second rounds are pretty much standardized in format so you can expect the typical case interview structure for each interview session. After each interview, the interviewer evaluates you. Any interviewer has veto right, so for example if I interviewed you and I didn't like you, you will be dinged also if all your other interviews went well.
The whole process usually last around a month (but again it depends on target office and period).
If you want you can also visit casepreparation . com where I post tips and tricks about how to succeed in interviews.
Hope I answered your main questions. If something is not clear just let me know.
Thanks so much for doing this! I know that some ADC candidates have heard from BCG and been invited to have "phone chats" with consultants. Does this mean that for folks who aren't invited to these "phone chats", we won't be getting first-round interview invitations?
I honestly don't think so. Phone chats are usually for someone out of reach and they want to know if you're serious and if you want to know more about their regional offices.
The interviews are not guaranteed from the phone chats.
Cheer up!
It's still long way to go.
The only reason I burned out is, it's like you thought your date went well, and it felt like awesome experience, and when you text next day, it's gone "poof" kind of feeling.
I got a nice reply from BCG, not from Bain though.
If I am applying as a experienced hire, do you think my case interviews would focus on the industry of my expertise or would it be a general mix of different cases. I am focused on life sciences and would like to know as I prepare for the same.
Thereo, did u get the reply from BCG after the phone chat? I had office hours phone chat this week with BCG consultant but have not heard anything..
Me neither. No news for the interview.
Hi aarya and thereo - If you don't mind, can u please tell me which region are you applying to? Thanks!
I have applied to the east coast
Has anyone who participated in Insight Healthcare and finished R1 interviews this week heard back yet?
My friend who did Insight Healthcare (in SF) and interviewed last Friday heard back this Wednesday. Not sure about anyone from Insight Healthcare who interviewed this week.
Nobody I know has heard back from BCG (other than Bridge participants) yet. Some have mentioned they had phone chats, some haven't.
We're all playing the waiting game!
It's been so long since I've applied to grad school that I forgot how crazy the waiting game makes everyone. Sigh.
Another hope-filled week commences....
I've checked in! Anyone, heard from Bain, report please ;)
Any word from BCG yet??
I did Bain AIC in July. Submitted the application before August 5th and got invited for the 1st round. Did anyone, who did CEB test for McK back in May but did not do Insight, hear anything about the 1st round?
I got invited to take the SHL in the summer, but it was due on the 14th and we're supposed to hear back on the 17th -- so maybe you'll hear on Wednesday along with us?
Thank you! Most likely I will hear on the 17th as well.
Amazing! Goodluck to you guys with BCG and Bain!
i am still waiting to hear back from both. Hope its soon!
Thank you and good luck to you, too!
A few people I have talked to have a theory that the initial phone screen for BCG was testing the candidate's English. The two people I know who got phone screens were international and listed names that sounded foreign on their resume. Is there anyone on here who got an initial phone screen from BC phone screen and was not international?
My friend who mentioned a BCG phone chat is not international and has an English sounding last name. She thought it was just to make sure you can have a conversation because we might be awkward scientists LOL
Well, there goes that theory. Thanks!
Actually, my data does not completely negate your hypothesis! Just because they do call people who aren't international doesn't mean they don't also call some international people to check their English skills. They could have different reasons for calling different people. I think?
In any case, I would take it as a good sign because they probably wouldn't bother calling people if their resume wasn't of interest. :D
Wonder if they have already sent out the rejections and just vetting candidates for interviews now! There was an individual on this forum who had already heard back from BCG.
oh really? Do you know what office the person applied to and when they heard back?
He/she had applied 07/24 and heard back on 08/09.
Does anyone know what other companies besides MBB are hiring APD/ADC for this cycle?
LEK's deadline is 8/31, and Oliver Wyman is ~Mid Sep depending on your school.
Has anyone heard from BCG Atlanta office regarding interviews yet? Still waiting impatiently :)
Email Robin and see what she has to say ;)
Hi upperhandy - Were you able to get any info from Robin that you can share with the group here? Thanks!
I guess I will just email her, no harm right... :) I was just checking if they have started emailing people..
Please let us know if you hear back anything.
Heard back from ClearView with a rejection today. I know it's not MBB, but a few of you may have applied there. No news is good news, so fingers crossed for the rest of you!!
Sorry to hear Zion. I had applied on 8/07 to CV and still awaiting a response. Did you receive an application submission confirmation from them?
Good luck with the rest!
Thank you for your interest in ClearView Healthcare Partners. As you are aware, ClearView is a life sciences strategy consulting firm, and our hiring needs are particularly specific. After careful consideration, the team at ClearView has decided that, while your experience and capabilities are substantial, we will not be able to move your candidacy forward.
We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
Best, Ellis, on behalf of the ClearView Recruiting Team
Ditto for me..Thank you for your interest in ClearView Healthcare Partners. As you are aware, ClearView is a life sciences strategy consulting firm, and our hiring needs are particularly specific. After careful consideration, the team at ClearView has decided that, while your experience and capabilities are substantial, we will not be able to move your candidacy forward.
We wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
Best, Ellis, on behalf of the ClearView Recruiting Team
when did you submit? Did you submit 08/07?
I'm still waiting to hear from ClearView (submitted a couple of days before the deadline). Seems like they sent out rejections and interview offers out today. Is anyone else still waiting?
Hi Pura - I'm still waiting on a response. How do you know about interview offers? Did someone u know hear back with it?
I know someone who got a phone interview invitation today.
I got the invitation for a phone interview with ClearView last week as well.
Did anyone who submitted on 8/07 to ClearView heard back from them?
i did...no reply yet. Did you apply from a target school?
Recruiters came to my school for a information session before CV's deadline.
Rejected first round from M. Applied in April, CEB in May, first round in Aug. West coast. Also had a BCG phone screen. Nothing from Bain...
Wonder if BCG is not bothering to give a phone screen to B2BCG applicants who interviewed but didn't make it in.
I got a phone screen for FT and was a B2BCG applicant who interviewed but didn't make it in. I was told in the phone screen that the interview invites would go out mid August...
Great, which region are you applying to? Thanks!
PhD./ Non-target school/ USA-midwest McK - submitted 7/15, rejected 8/1 BCG - submitted 7/27. waiting Bain - preapproval for 1st round interview (9/12) a week after attending AIC ClearView - submitted 7/22, rejected 8/16 OW - submitted 8/1, waiting
Guys and girls, silly question: does OW have a dedicated application for PhD's? I for the love of god cannot find one... Or do you just apply to the normal consulting job position and hope for an interview? Thank you,
I've been trying to figure that out too... I haven't been able to find anything either :\
http://www.oliverwyman.com/careers/entry-level/events.html
Based on your school you can see when is the deadline. I am not sure if this is PhD specific or for every type of degree.
Anybody hear anything from MBB or ClearView today??
Nope :(
I got a McKinsey interview!
Congrats :)
Congrats! Which Office did you apply to?
Do you know if it was a bulk email that they sent to people who passed the test for McKinsey? Also, yes, what office?
Received McK interview invite 13:38 today (8/17/16). 1st round interview will take place between Sept 6-8.
Detail: applied for McK 2016 internship Jan this year, didn't make it to an offer, was signed up into Keep-In-Touch program and told that would be invited to fulltime interview in the fall (didn't need to take the test again but still needed to reapply formally by the deadline in July).
Anybody from the West Coast heard back from McKinsey yet (Insight applicants who didn't make it or the people who took the test recently)?
I'm applying to West Coast, took the test recently (before the 14th August deadline), and haven't heard back yet. Looking back at the initial email from the recruiter, it said we'd be informed of next steps on "Thursday August 17." Given that Thursday's the 18th not 17th, it's possible news will go out tomorrow ... Or maybe we're the only two who haven't heard ;)
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