Advice for summer Asset Management interns
Now that Mid-May has passed, I thought it'd be beneficial to post some important pieces of advice for those interns gunning for a return offer in AM. I went through the fun last summer and came out with a return offer, so here are some key take aways I had from my experience.
Always Remember You're Being Evaluated
This may sound like common sense but forgetting this point can be detrimental. Every project you touch and every conversation you have should be treated as if you're being evaluated. This can be very easy to forget towards the middle of the summer. I like to think that I am somewhat clever and can see what's really going on behind the scenes, but I was surprised at what my boss knew of the conversations I had with other analysts about my potential path in finance throughout the summer. Just try to be aware.
Drink The Damn Coffee
I drank a modest three cups a day last summer (1 on the way to work, 1 at opening bell, and 1 at market close) and this varies by person. The amount of coffee you actually consume, however, is beside the main point. You need to be alert and focused while working on everything from simple presentation notes to oil and gas models. Lackadaisically pasting cells can lead to a mistaken valuation that could have easily been avoided. So be caffeinated, enjoy sleep with our sub 70-hour weeks, be focused during meetings and while working on projects, and ALWAYS double check your work.
Find Your High-up Friend
Becoming buddies with someone above analyst level can especially pay dividends. It only takes one PM, senior analyst, or head of whatever to land you a return offer. A big part of this is also being yourself. You won't develop a good professional relationship if you're so psyched out by managers that you become an up-tight introvert (but also don't get too risky with any jokes). Such a relationship, additionally, can lead into a mentor-mentee dynamic which can be priceless. Sometimes finding such a person is just too difficult in two or three months. Yet even having friendly conversations about golf or traveling or last night's ball game can be memorable enough to make a positive impression.
Try to Find a Niche
This can also play into the previous point but finding a desk/team that you really work well with can be a home run. You're likely assigned to a specific desk already yet don't be afraid to ask others out for coffee and expressing your interest in their focus. This will take some discretion on your part to decide how far to push or vocalize your long-term interests.
Be Social
Obviously don't be the intern that gets shit faced (or at least the first one). Go out to the associates' happy hours or other events and develop the ties. Also, showing that you can interact with other interns can be a massive positive to show that you're team player or a leader.
Look for Developments
Are you covering industrials? Then you better know as soon as there's talk of an acquisition by 3M or if GE's COO is retiring. Gather any info you can on the day's developments and at least mention them to your boss. I tried to do this on a daily basis. Luckily RSS feeds, Bloomberg, and Reuters has made this easy.
It's Still a Competition
While we are fortunate to not have the level of rat race as our IBD buddies, it is still a competition. This obviously varies firm to firm with the number of interns and expected turn over, but always remember to do your best to outshine. This is especially important for any large projects you get. However, do not forget about the small things. Following up quickly with emails and returning little assignments efficiently is also just as crucial to show your abilities.
Feel free to message me for any other specific advice. Best of luck to all grinding away on the buy-side.
2018 Update:
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Thanks for taking the time to do this. I'm assuming this is at a bank that has more of a structured program (AM/PWM)?
Anything to pay it forward. I'm at an AM firm that manages insurance companies' portfolios and not at a bank.
Nice write up
Thanks for taking the time to write this up!
On your point of trying to find a niche, did you find the value in speaking with people on other teams comes more from just learning about how their team operates, or does your firm allow you to have some leeway in getting work from those other desks? I start in a couple of weeks at an AM and they haven't told me which desk I'll be on yet, so I'm curious how constraint I'll be to the desk I get assigned.
During my summer there as an intern, I spoke with various other teams to gain an understanding of their focus. I connected well with one team in particular and found their desk very interesting (I think this played a part in my return offer). My firm allows FT associates leeway following their initial assignment once they have the basic research and analysis skills down to move around desks. I can't speak too much more about moving around since I am still early in, but there's a good chance you'll some say sooner or later.
Thanks!
One more quick question - if you had to do a final stock pitch at the end of your internship, any tips for doing well on that? I assume that plays a large role in getting a return offer so would appreciate any advice you could share on that.
Great question. I could probably do a whole post on this but I'll be brief. Every firm has their specific format and such, but dig as deep as possible. Of course you can't include everything, and you will also have to discern what can materially affect the price, yet cover every aspect that you can (potential m&a activity, leadership change overs, security issuances, challenges to market position, etc.) I also spoke to some outside analysts and other contacts which probably helped my case as a young buck.
Also, don't be afraid to state if you think a particular factor is under-appreciated by the market or anything else like that. For example, I challenged some market perceptions on a new product variation. This shows that you won't quickly fall into the herd. Finally, what I believe really helped me outshine was practicing multiple times. I presented to a few other associates and this polished my presentation incredibly and gave me confidence. Keep in mind also that you'll receive questions that you will not have expected, so don't be thrown off your groove of confidence by these. Answer them as best you can without bullshitting (you can always follow up later on).
Thanks for this!
I am assigned to the Markets Insight team. Any thoughts/prep work you think I can squeeze in before I start? Worried about the technicals.
When I meet others for coffee, say we get along well, should I ask if I can spend time on their desk? Because that means being away from my current desk for say, half a day?
Any tips to work more efficiently? What are the most common Excel commands you use on a day to day basis?
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