Any Phoenix Graduates here? (University of Phoenix)
I'm a veteran of the United States Armed Forces and to maximize my remaining benefits I decided to attend University of Phoenix. I'm on track to get my Bachelors of Science in Business with a Concentration in Finance degree this time next year. I was just wonder how many of you guys are Phoenix graduates who have landed a good paying job in the Business sector?
Dude, U of Phoenix is below non target.
Since I respect your service to our country, I will at least give you some advice. Try to transfer to a brick-and-mortar school. Even if it's just a local state school. If you graduate from University of Phoenix, you'll have exactly what you went in with, military veteran status, and that's it.
I find it funny how so many people attend the University of Phoenix only to complain about it later in life. I guess some people do not do research before they dive head into something nowadays. It's no different than attending a community college, you do your research first before signing up, just as you do before joining the military. You give what you put into it, I have an associate degree in Business Management and currently working towards my bachelor degree, now with that being said, I work as a manager for a local hotel hoping to advance my career once I graduate. The University of Phoenix tell you before you sign up how much the classes are, how much it is for each degree, and so forth, but the people I find who are always complaining is all about the money and the refunds. It is no different from any other college, they pay for your classes, books, etc. and you get what's leftover once all that is taken care of, now if you opt from the school managing your funds, you are welcome to manage your own funds, but you have to make sure your classes are paid for in advance and not blow the money. I am proud to say I graduated from University of Phoenix, and did I mention that companies like LinkedIn cater to people who graduated from University of Phoenix? Click on their website, and you will see all the careers who gladly accept degrees from University of Phoenix. You get what you put into it, they even help you find a career through PhoenixConnect or did you ever use that tool, which they provided for not only you but for all students?
Hey man. First off, thanks for serving. Next, l agree with professionalmonkey. There is currently an open investigation into For-Profit Colleges by the Justice Department. Since, you didn't specify high finance/consulting your options are much more open. I highly reccommend you look into a good state school, preferably a flagship. Even if it will take you an extra year or three, you will be MUCH better off. Trust us.
I read the other day that half of all military education benefits are going to for profit colleges (link here: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-23/for-profit-colleges-get-half-o…)
I think the OP's case is exemplary of why this is. Given an education stipend by the government, vets decide (rationally so) they should exhaust all the money they are given. For profits are more than willing to take that money and don't require any of the rigorous application processes non-profit brick and mortars do. They over-promise and under-deliver and end up with a bunch of taxpayer dollars and graduates who aren't much more skilled than when they entered.
To be clear, I'm not saying vets aren't qualified for top programs (their leadeship experience and unique stories likely give them an edge), just that for-profits are an easy way to exhaust an education stipend the government gives them.
Phoenix is probably better than some others out there as it seems like it actually has a reputation it is trying to build, but still probably not worht the money.
Hey Dex, PM me if youre interested. I'm also prior military. btw pro-monkey is absolutely correct
Take what is left of your GI Bill and transfer to a state school asap! Besides, the post 9/11 GI Bill will pay you a living stipend if your classes are at a physical location, I don't think you get that at U of Phoenix. Also, if you can do better than a state school, but are worried about money there is the yellow ribbon progam
Like what they said above, transfer to a brick-and-mortar school.
I do understand what you guys are saying, the thing is I was at a community college for two years but my transfer program meant that I would transfer to a 4 year University in 2013. That would have meant I spent all of my benefits at a community college so with 13 months left on my benefits I decided to try University of Phoenix. Though I know a degree from UoP doesn't have much credibility, I do know that you are able to get a good job from it if you are one of the lucky few like my gf's father who works for Northrop Grumman now making 100k + after getting a Business degree through UoP. But he's one of the lucky ones.
However, my plan is to transfer over to a brick and mortar school for grad school once I get my degree at UoP. The plan is to qualify for Voc Rehab which will help me with additional benefits because I have a disability rating over 20%. I've known and read from various veterans who have been qualified for Voc Rehab and it is helping them go through grad school and some above that.
Also I would like to mention that not only am I taking online courses at UoP, I am also taking on campus classes at my nearby community college.
You will have better luck in getting a job with your 2nd grade spelling bee champion ribbon than that printed out diploma from UoP.
dexinthecity, I am also a vet and been in your situation before (many years ago). I started out at a community college when enlisted in the AF, then got picked up for a commission scholarship and attended a state school for undergrad. Now at an Ivy doing a MS Financial Engineering program (have a MBA also).
On UoP, don't do it. If that's your undergrad, when you apply to grad school, you might get dinged for it. Even if you have to take out student loans, go to a better school. Its worth it, and plus you won't pigeon-hole yourself in a govt job since I don't know a lot of private sector businesses hire UoP undergrads except DoD contractors. You can save your Voc Rehab for something better than UoP.....PM me if you want to chat more.
I'm prior military too, that being said.
STOP NOW! Don't finish up the bachelor's degree.
Take the ACT/SAT, with the yellow ribbon 9/11 GI-Bill you can basically go to the best schools in the countries for free. After that, I would see if you can take some online classes, for example I know University of Illinios has online
Seriously, they won't even care if you had a shitty high school GPA. A degree from, Ohio State or Georgia, is MUCH MUCH more respectable than University of Phoenix. And if you do well on the ACT/SAT you can go semi to top targets.
The promotion of these crappy online degrees to our veterans is sickening. For profit colleges show their appreciation by talking our troops into wasting their veteran benefits at their shitty diploma mills. Since I am sure you are used to candid advice coming from active service, I'll give it to you straight. Nothing signals that you are dangerously out of touch with reality like having a U of Phoenix degree, especially with how it easy it is to go a local state school. Stop now and pretend like it never happened. For real your veteran status is a golden admissions ticket in most regards, use it.
This UoP thing is a trap. They advertise heavily among military people because they know that there is a lot of government money available there. The main problem he will face is that most of the state universities will refuse to transfer whatever credits he has earned at UoP. So he will lose out on all those credits. If he gets his Bachelors from Phoenix he will also have to do his MBA from Phoenix because most of the universities are noyt going to recognize the UoP Bachelors degree. It is a really difficult situation. I would recommend that you start your BS again at a state school and try to negotiate for some transfer of credits.
Try University of Maryland, University College - http://www.umuc.edu/military/ Online and part-time university in the University of Maryland system designed to help veterans. Probably won't allow transfer of U of Phoenix credits, since I am pretty certain just the suggestion will make them throw up, but you should get credit for your military training, etc. Ok, my last serious post. Back to being a troll.
hey everyone, sorry it's been a long time since I posted. I stated before that I was going to a community college before starting UoP. I transfered over 40+ credits and I'm only on my 3rd class at UoP. I'm seriously considering trying to go to another University that has an online program before I rack up all these credits from UoP and not be able to transfer them when trying to get my masters.
I would appreciate it if you guys can help me by suggesting other credible colleges that have an online program.
why online... just attend a college physically... don't get trapped by a girl...
Follow the advice given here and try to message the veterans on here who have the experience of breaking in. We all appreciate your service to the country but please understand that online colleges are just not respected.
I know online colleges are not respected, but what if my plan is to go to a Brick and Mortar Uni for my Masters but got my undergrad from say...Penn State World Campus or schools that offer degree programs but have brick and mortar Universities like UMUC, UMASS, Univ of Colorado, Univ Texas, etc...are these colleges classified in the same category as UoP?
Just suck it up and go to a college that has a legitimate undergraduate program. That way, you don't need a masters program to cover it up. This is the foundation for your career, and you really don't want to fuck it up.
if you keep having this "will figure things out/be in a more serious place later", then finance may not be your career choice
Bro, chill the fuck out. With a UoP degree you will be serving burgers at BK. Go to a real college. About 40 ppl have told you not make this mistake. It's a piece of shit college that no one in finance or corporate world takes seriously. Your gf's father got really damn lucky, that shit almost never happens.
Thanks for your service bro, hope you make the right decision.
To answer your questions, the universities you mentioned are better than UoP, but, you will still have a real tough time impressing anyone. And to matriculate into a decent grad school, you will need a real non-online degree.
Keep in mind that the same negative conversations are going on in Ivy League circles about public universities. It is easy to try to knock down the new inventive kid on the block, who is, by the way, sanctioned by the same body that sanctions those institutions. Interesting that the privates and public schools are now following the kid in offering online degrees. UoP boasts 300,000 plus graduates including mayors, police chiefs, athletes, business owners, COOs, and educators. Contact your UoP Alumni Association to get in tough with them. I AM A PHOENIX!
And you're about a year too late -- check thread date. /endthread.
Since this thread has already been rehashed, I'm curious as to how adcom's would look at online degrees from brick and mortar schools. I know a lot of negative things have been said about HES, but would it diminish your chances of getting into a decent program? For example would a degree from, say, Ball State earned while taking classes on campus be viewed in higher regards than an online degree from a more well respected brick and mortar school?
Are you a combat veteran/operator? If so, finish U of Phoenix because you'll be fine. I know a CBSer and HBSer with Uof Phoenix degrees. Both Bschools will force to take additional tests, but if you have a compelling story and a great GMAT score, you'd be very surprised.
/ = or, please tell me you aren't that dense.
As I said before, adcoms overlook UofPhoenix if you're a veteran who spent a majority of your time deployed. How else will you complete a degree at a brick and mortar?! Most importantly, the proof is in the pudding, there are at least 2 combat vets at M7 B schools.
Did a lot of research on Apollo right when I got out of college and actually did a campus tour and pretended to be a prospective student... got eligibility for full student aid and everything... I think I might technically be enrolled there or something so I guess I'm not quite a graduate yet but maybe one day I'll join you
I have no doubt that there are UofPhoenix alums in high places and at good B-schools. But going there simply isn't the highest probability move. If at all possible, move to a reputable brick and mortar.
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