If you wanted to aggresively pursue a recruiter regarding a SA position (MM bank NYC), would it be better to cold call them and try to sell yourself, or to just email a strong cover letter/resume? They dont have a a huge HR dept, and no formal application system. However, this guy carries a large amount of weight on recruting at all levels (former banker)
I think I can prove myself better on the phone despite having a pretty strong resume, but I don't want to present myself to the guy without him having any background info (ie resume/letter) on me. However, I feel that speaking with him would be much more effective rather than emailing (which he could easily delete/forget about).
Any inputs would be great from people within the business, or who have gone through recruiting,
Thanks
Shoot him an email with your resume and cover letter giving a brief background. End it saying you'd like to speak with him via phone whenever he has time. Let him know that you'll follow up with him later in the week to hopefully get some time on his schedule. Then you can set up something. Make sure you're prepared with questions and try to get him to talk as much as possible.
Calling out of the blue can be a huge pain in his a**. Not only will he not be prepared to speak with you, but it most likely won't go well and he will be annoyed.
This process always worked with me. After you've spoken a few times then you can start giving him a call every couple weeks to catch up and keep him updated on your internship search or to make small talk. Just try and develop the relationship and try not to talk about the SA position too much (trust me, he knows why you're calling).
Thanks for the advice, I feel like an idiot asking this, but should my cover letters be attached like a resume, or should they generally be in the email?
I used to think cover letters were meant to be attached, but it seemed that people only had time to read your short bit in an email, and a glance at a resume.
I've never had to write a cover letter. I would just write a couple paragraph introduction / background about me in the email explaining why I wanted to talk with whomever. People on this board will disagree but I've always considered it more of a formality - unless you're applying somewhere and they've specifically told you to attach a cover letter.
Thanks for the info, what if this bank prefers (on their website) that applications are mailed in rather than emailed? Would it smarter to mail my resumt/cover letter, and then follow up with this guy through email?
If it is a smaller bank, just call them. Try talking to an analyst/associate because often they run a lot of the u-grad recruiting. And if they give you their email make sure you stay in touch with them. I called a MM bank I just got an offer from about a year ago for an internship; did not get it but continued to email and call the analyst I met. Eventually he realized how much I wanted the chance to interview and gave me a shot to come in to the office.
If it's a bigger place, it's tough. I'd still say call because if you email most of the time the recruiter will say "thanks for your interest, apply online, we'll review all app's, yadayadayada." Don't pressure, maybe ask if there's a chance you can come down to shadow an analyst for a day to learn about the position or talk with someone for an informational interview.
hey gnomes, would I just call the bank (mm) and ask to speak to an analyst?
The guy I was planning on talking to is in charge of associate recruting, but i've heard from past SAs that he carries huge weight in the entire process for both FT and SA as he was former banker.
Call the bank and ask to speak with someone involved with recruiting. Some places will have a designated HR rep, others might just give the call to an analyst and let them decide whether you'd be worth taking a look at.
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