"Well, we have to end apartheid for one.
And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger.
We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women.
We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people."
~ Patrick Bateman
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Not in the stereotypical WASPy finance/oil/military-industrial robber barons plotting market crashes and political schemes on golf courses, no. But there are certain elite "castes", unknown to 99.999% of the world that influences geopolitical events behind the scenes, with raw power, not capital.
- The Vatican and dozens of noble families of Europe (including mine) are constantly meddling in Europe, Africa and the Middle East, seeking more power, capital, natural resources or influence. They have been around since before the Western Roman Empire fell.
- Various imperial/royal lineages from Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, etc in East Asia pretty much have a stranglehold on electronics, semiconductors and raw resources found in East Asia. They are currently unequalled in influence and power. They have been around since the first Chinese dynasties.
- Protestants and Russian oligarchs on the Eastern Seaboard controls North America and Latin America. They have been around since the 17th century. They enjoyed a surge in influence following the second great war, but are in a stage of relative decline.
- Minor castes in India, Oceania, Russia and the Middle East exists, but are irrelevant for the most part.
So we are basically ruled by a bunch of global elites competing for power and we have no idea?
whilst its easy to get a list of european nobility that might still be active id love to hear about these so called imperial / royal family lineages in China etc. would they not have been wiped out by revolution? similar i thought the chaebol / zaibutsu had backgrounds in merchant / important families sure but would have been by now far removed in owenrship from them.
similar i doubt any wealthy russian actually comes from 17th century (or even 18th or 19th century) prominense. prettty much all oligarchs i read about / researched had very humble (albeit hustler and gangster) roots.
There is no such thing as Reaganite CEOs and executives? How come we have had so many tax cuts for the rich then? (83, 86, 01, 03, 17)
Incorrect. As you escalate the social ladder you realize that there IS a group of extremely wealthy people and they all know each other. Finance knows Hollywood knows blue blood knows the heads of industry. The daughter of a prominent IB firm CEO is best friends with a Mediterranean princess (if you know what public friend group I'm referring to), same with the groups of final club member HYPSM lads playing golf in Southhampton. Here it is about luxury, but not Gucci/Rolex, rather Piana/Zegna bespoke luxury.
+1 to what EBITDaddies mentioned
make your goal upper society tax returns, rather than boring ass upper society conversation or limousine liberal beliefs
In the Bible in the Book of James, it is said that faith without works is dead. In the same way, believing something that has no impact on your life is a dead belief system.
Make sure you let everyone know you're Pro Family and Anti-drug before you get up
The funny fact about this is that ''traditional values'' are no longer preached (but heavily utilized) by the elite of society. Among the rich, divorces are rarer and large families are more common. Meanwhile to the youth they preach pansexual transgenderism as a replacement for the nuclear family, which is ''symptom of white supremacy''.
Look at fucking California:
Want true equity? I propose, modestly, forcing California parents to swap children
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/Want-true-equity-…
Can someone tell me what's wrong with these beliefs? Which ones don't you guys agree with? Civil Rights? Ending apartheid? Stopping hunger?
All of them...
I also want analyst starting salaries to be 400k, my dead dog to come back to life, and my wife to leave her boyfriend
We can want whatever we want to be true, but that doesn't mean we want to bend over backwards or do something stupid that makes the problem worse.
Sure, I'd love everyone to have a house, but that doesn't mean I also think I should have to pay for some lazy dole bludger's house.
Most of the stated beliefs are about ends not means.
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This is a solid analysis here--made me think, actually. Yes, this is correct. I was struggling to put my finger on what was really wrong with these "beliefs" but this says it well. Most people agree--broadly speaking--on the ends of policy, which is peace, prosperity, progress (hat tip: Eisenhower) and equal justice. But that's not a political platform--it's just a slogan.
"End apartheid" is good, but how do you achieve this? There are vastly different approaches. "End apartheid; nationalize land and businesses and redistribute to black people" is very, very different from "End apartheid; appoint judges who will enforce equal justice under the law." Both of these viewpoints fall under the slogan of "end apartheid." So "end apartheid" is a meaningless slogan. It might be more meaningful if the debate were between keeping apartheid and ending apartheid.
The insidious aspect of these beliefs is not that they're wrong; it's that when you assert that these are your political beliefs, there is an implication that you are working against a counter ideology that is opposed to these beliefs.
The famous example is the yard sign: In this house we believe that black lives matter, women's right are human rights, no human is illegal, science is real, love is love, kindness is everything.
When you assert these beliefs as your ideology, there is a clear implication that your neighbor likely is opposed to these things, when the reality is actually likely not true. Your neighbor believes in all of those things but has a different worldview that interprets them differently. In fact, that yard sign is basically right out of the Bible--how the Pharisees asserted their own righteousness but Jesus asserted fidelity to those righteous beliefs through a completely different interpretation.
Yeah, I just really think about Black Lives Matter in the sign. Because of the greater context of the sign, we know the assertion is that defunding the police, abolishing the nuclear family, and replacing capitalism with socialism is good for "Black" lives when the exact, polar opposite is true--those things are all terrible for black lives. While BLM is ultra-ironic, I actually think the most ironic of them all is "kindness is everything" as the sign itself is the meanest sign since its implication is that "you are a bad person if you disagree with these things" or "you hold counter beliefs in bad faith." The sign itself projects an ungracious, unkind attitude.
I also enjoy the "hate has no home here" sign when you know that the person with that sign would run off a Trump supporter with a pitch fork. As much as things change, people are just the same as they were in the time of the Pharisees--people want to be popular for their morality but their pride prevents them from seeing that they're actually the bad guys.
If you mean like Social Register tier upper society, then unless you are the most polished a person can be and incredibly successful too, nothing short of marriage will get you there.
Pedigree is the most important thing, though you need pedigree + polish. For example, Ivanka Trump got along very well with New York high society, but Donald Trump never did. He's a part of the social register now, but that's only because they invite all Presidents and VPs.
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