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Mar 18, 2011

Its better to be lucky than smart, why are you arguing about this. Go out and drink

Mar 18, 2011

Its better to be lucky than smart. Why are you arguing about this? Go out and drink

Mar 18, 2011

Smart

Mar 18, 2011

I think you have to say both. This isn't an either/or question(they are not mutually exclusive). Why can't someone be smart and work as hard as they can to get as far as they can? I.e. Someone that can maintain a high gpa while working is likely smart and hardworking.

Mar 18, 2011
leveRAGE.:

I think you have to say both. This isn't an either/or question(they are not mutually exclusive). Why can't someone be smart and work as hard as they can to get as far as they can? I.e. Someone that can maintain a high gpa while working is likely smart and hardworking.

This exactly. To be hardworking is, by definition, smart.
You could take any bum from the ghetto and turn them into an Ibanker. Just look at trading places (I kid, but seriously)

Mar 18, 2011

I answered "I'm fucking smart" during an B-School interview. Got in. True story.

Mar 18, 2011
JeffSkilling:

I answered "I'm fucking smart" during an B-School interview. Got in. True story.

lol I remember reading this in The Smartest Guys in the Room. Jeff Skilling was a unique character.

Mar 18, 2011

wasn't that madoff?

edit: nm, pretty sure it was an enron guy

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

Mar 18, 2011
scottj19x89:

wasn't that madoff?

edit: nm, pretty sure it was an enron guy

(look at his user name for hint)

Mar 18, 2011

so it was madoff!

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If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough.

"There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.

Mar 18, 2011

I think the smartest people are the ones who work at the right moment.

Mar 18, 2011

both

Mar 19, 2011

I'm probably the laziest fucker in IBD!

Mar 19, 2011
feenans:

I'm probably the laziest fucker in IBD!

Are you guys hiring?

Mar 19, 2011
UFOinsider:
feenans:

I'm probably the laziest fucker in IBD!

Are you guys hiring?

As a matter of fact, yes we are still looking for a couple FT analysts. But, it's exclusively for personal references...

Mar 19, 2011

The smart or hardworking question is one of my favorite interview questions. The best answer I have heard went something like this:
My grades are very high because I am smart and although I do not spend as much time studying as others, I am very hard working outside the classroom... and then went on to detail varsity sport, club leadership and starting his own business. That is a 10/10 answer.

Mar 19, 2011

Just make sure you don't answer "neither"

Mar 19, 2011

the correct answer is no, you are neither

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Mar 19, 2011

I'm not

Mar 19, 2011
BlackHat:

I'm not

I would just go with "yea..." and initiate a staring contest.

Mar 19, 2011

^ hilarious

I would take a hardworking approach to avoid sounding arrogant and explain how you were able to use your time efficiently. E.g., I attempted to make the most out of class and study time by focusing on the most important concepts, material..what I thought that I would be tested on. I simply didn't have time to read each chapter twice, spend 40 hours/wk studying, etc. with my involvement in _____ and my job bar tending at Lace.

Mar 19, 2011

Hardworking. Definitely, but kind of unfortunately.

Mar 19, 2011

Well I do enjoy being smart, but I take pride in being hardworking. Definitely hardworking.

Mar 19, 2011

hardwork has made you smart?

Mar 19, 2011

Sorry, my quoted example was pretty bad grammatically, and I also don't mean for this post to be boastful.

I just found this question interesting because the way it's worded it felt like the interviewer was saying they were mutually exclusive. It feels like you can't really have one without the other.

Mar 19, 2011

I fluctuate between the two. When I'm not working hard I think I'm smart and when I'm working hard, I don't think I'm not that smart.

Mar 19, 2011

Smart. Not in the real world yet so only have to be 6-7/10 hardworking

Mar 19, 2011

The best answer is always to say both, but if you had to choose hardworking.

Mar 19, 2011

Hardworking it is and sometimes smart

Mar 19, 2011

What does being smart in school even mean?

Being able to easily recall information that you've learned or memorized?
Being able to apply things that you've learned to real world applications?
Being able to come up with new ideas or innovations?
Being able to grasp concepts and information more quickly than others?

What does hardworking mean?

Can someone be hardworking and not be smart?
Can someone be smart and not be hardworking?

Can you work towards being smart?

Do those of you who think you're hardworking think you're smart as well or no? Why or why not?

What does being smart REALLY mean?

I sure as hell don't know.

Mar 19, 2011

I'm not smart, and I'm only moderately hard working. I assume I'm the dumbest guy in the room until given reason to think otherwise. But I'll say I work smart.

I was not the guy who killed himself studying in college. I realized I could spend 2 hrs per week per class and pull A-'s. Since there was no recruiting benefit to doing more (excl MBB), I didn't.

It's actually a frustrating part of ER: I will need to build a 1000 row model that computes EPS maybe $0.01 more accurately than a 200 row model. It just doesn't make sense from a cost/benefit standpoint. If your investment thesis rests on a penny one way or another, you really shouldn't be managing money (in my opinion).

But I will "work" every free moment if I find something interesting. I have spent entire weekends researching companies.

Mar 19, 2011
West Coast rainmaker:

I'm not smart, and I'm only moderately hard working. I assume I'm the dumbest guy in the room until given reason to think otherwise. But I'll say I work smart.

Similar, perhaps just less hardworking for me. I forced myself to learn to be efficient because I hate doing unnecessary work.

West Coast rainmaker:

But I will "work" every free moment if I find something interesting. I have spent entire weekends researching companies.

Definitely agreed, I have OCD.

Mar 19, 2011

"Don't work harder, work smarter."

I wish I had heard this a while ago. Regardless, I think the answer I would give would be hardworking. One could back that up with tangible evidence.

If you were to say smart, I feel as though you are opening yourself up to be tested by your interviewer until you flop.

Mar 19, 2011

Too smart to be happy where I am but not smart enough to allow me to coast to success. Hard working enough to make me semi successful but not enough to get me to where I want to be and make up for my lack of smarts. Too pessimistic to think that trying significantly harder in either aspect will be worth it.

Mar 19, 2011
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Mar 19, 2011
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