So I've been cold emailing boutiques firms hoping to land a full time offer even though its late in recruiting season. I got a response this morning asking for my resume and whether I'm interested in a permanent or temporary position.
What would be a good way to answer this? Ideally I'm looking for a full time position, but I would be willing to accept a temporary one since my experience is not the best.
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This is very much your call.
If you go internship you'll have a better chance of getting something and you can aim to convert into full-time, but there's a risk that while you're interning they find someone to fill the FT gig (if there is even one there to fill), but at the end of the day you'll have built your CV and will have more to take to other institutions.
If you go FT you may get nothing, or everything.
Tell them you will take whatever opportunity is available.
And look horribly desperate in the process, don't take this advice, decide on a course of action and stick to it unless offered otherwise.
I disagree. As a new grad, I've often been asked this question at interviews, even by a BB(I applied for an internship). I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that you're open to both, and are flexible depending on the business needs of th firm, since your priority is getting good exposure and experience.
You may look a little desperate but employers understand the current economy and will not use it against you. I just got an internship at a great well-known fund after being asked this question many times by different interviewers and consistently emphasizing that I would be open to both. At my recent first-round interviews with a BB, one of my interviewers really liked me and has volunteered to ask HR whether or not they can interview me for a FT opportunity or convert me right after the internship. I'm not counting on this since I know it's very unlikely there will be a spot open right now but my point is that I don't think it hurt their opinion of me at all.
You're right, but you're looking at it from an intership only perspective, that's what internships are for, the FT gig and so saying you'd like a FT is required. But if you're heading out for FT and are asked the same question and you say yes please I'll take the internship too, it looks very weak. Or maybe that's just my opinion.
I would say temporary, but it has nothing to do with your experience.
If you say temporary, and they hate you, you hate them, you find something better, etc, since your employment period is formally determined to be finite, you can make an exit without looking like an asshole who just did a pump and dump scheme for a quick job. By taking a full-time position, and seeing any of these problems/opportunities arise, you will burn every connection by jumping to something else in a short period of time. You should be able to gauge the pace of business in order to see whether they are too slow to hire a full time analyst.
The person who called you probably wasn't playing a game with your mind, they probably just want to know what you are looking for. This is why I would say temporary, but I am sure there are good reasons to say full time.
Stop thinking so much. Just tell them what you want. If you want a FT then just tell them you want a FT or PT if it's a PT you want. Beating around the bush helps no one. Just make up your mind and send a strong, clear response.
If you just need a job then go for the FT-I agree with orangejulius. If I was in your position I would say FT simply because recruiting is tough; if you have an opportunity, take it.
Why don't you just tell them that "I would like to learn more about both of those roles and discuss how I can fit your hiring needs?" along those lines. Once the other guy start talking about both positions in details, try to gauge your chances of getting an offer between those two positions based on "does my skill sets fit what he is looking for?" Hope it helps.
Yeah, I think they realize everyone's looking to get a job, so saying both doesn't seem too ridiculous...
Thanks for all the input, i told him i was open to hearing more about both opportunities.
I would say I am really dedicated to the business. I would prefer full time. However, If necessary I would be willing to start temporary and work my way into a full time position.
All this nonsense about being weak is just that. Be real and don't over think it.
I agree with this approach.
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