Personally, I have a higher regard for PGIM at the moment. Had a good friend who left when Cornerstone become Barings. Both good, but PGIM is known for great training/culture, etc. Naming the firm after a major bank that failed spectacularly in the 90s (seriously watch the movie) was a head scratcher to me. But the person who told me about it (who works there) said it was due to the recognition of the name by Asian investors (apparently its a still a good rep). I've met with people in the Tokyo office, but they made it sound like they are not really connected at all with the US team. 

Still, what team/fund/strategy you will be working for, comp package, and all other sorts of stuff should matter way more than firm rep. I'm serious, both a well known names, I doubt exit ops would matter that much. What fund/strategy or role/team you are in is what will matter a ton more. 

 

Do you think I would be able to go to a megafund more easily from PGIM vs Barings?

 

This question made me do a double take..... so I went and looked at IPE Real Assets Ranking (FYI, these numbers are in Euros)

3. PGIM Real Estate - 122.5 Billion (ranks 14 in PERE for money raised in last 5 years)

32. Barings - $41.2 Billion (not ranked by PERE)

I mean, exactly how mega are you looking for? PGIM is literally the third biggest! BX barely ahead. 

Here is the link if want to see full ranking https://realassets.ipe.com/top-100-real-estate-investment-managers/top-…;

Here is an older IREI ranking, different methodology (more limited) https://irei.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/2019_PFR_IREI-REPORT-US.pdf

PERE 100 ranking https://www.perenews.com/pere-100-private-real-estates-tried-and-tested…

 

I guess going to a Blackstone, Carlyle, Brookfield type of firm (Non LifeCo) more of your traditional REPE

 
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This where I get confused on WSO, the fact that Blackstone (an investment manager who started with PE as focus) is considered so radically different from PGIM (an investment manager started by an insurance company) when both are offering a great deal of overlapping investment products, competing for same investors, and ranked along side each other in every ranking of "Real Estate Private Equity" (i.e. the PERE Top 100 I cite above) just makes no sense to me. 

People seem to confuse the high-octane, leveraged funds/strategies that "REPE" gets associated with as being the entire REPE business, and seem to neglect that many investment managers (including those sponsored via life cos originally) have and offer identical funds/strategies alongside their more famous open-end diversified core products. They literally are doing the same thing + more, let people get all concerned with "exit ops" from one to the other.   

 

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