Best resume I've seen -something to strive for

impressive indeed, but is it really the best you've seen? Tons of guys in finance have similar resumes...

must be nice to be born in a rich family. I went to NYC public schools all my life :/

Very impressive education. Essentially went to the best school each level could offer. Experience is impressive, definitely, but far from TERRIBLY impressive. Shocked you haven't seen more impressive resumes.

what is a more impressive than that? the guy was a ranger. have you seen someone who split their time between their rhodes scholarship studies and delta force?

To be honest, I know nothing about the Army and only looked quickly, but the whole Ranger thing is actually pretty impressive... Still, I'd imagine something more impressive must exist.

Cool man. Guy is really impressive but he was set up with his early studies. Going to schools like that get you ready for P/HBS. Props to the ranger shit though. He should have that path, except the Army.

dude this guy never claimed he's read every resume that exists. he just said this is the most impressive one he's seen and it is very impressive.

respect

eh.

Google "Mitt Romney" That morman has a very impressive resume.

Definitely impressive to me

I'm sorry not impressive to me. There is nothing outside of the box where I would say 'hats off' nice experience. While good schools, army, and investment banking are nice places to be, they all follow the same path, you apply get accepted and then do better than the majority (to keep getting accepted at the next level). Anybody could do that provided with the opportunity to start at Greenwich.

im thinking myron rolle's resume would be pretty impressive

Wow, so many people drinking hateraid.

Is this the most impressive resume of all time? No. Did the person win the genetic lottery and get a head start? Yes. It is still pretty impressive none the less. Army ranger training is pretty intense from what I know. Are there more impressive resumes out there? Very likely.

But a lot of the factor(s) of just how impressive the resume is dependent on how old this person is. If he's like in his mid to late 30's, it's pretty impressive and he's probably setup to go further later on in life. Even if he's like in he's early 40's, still leagues to go. Regardless this guy is pretty set and get his foot into any interview and high government office (should he choose) simply by the (limited) information we were provided from his resume. Cheers to success.

As my first post says it is very generic and even if you drink all the finance coolaide I would rather be in somebody's feet who did BB analyst, megafund pre-MBA, HSW, megafund post-MBA...

Oh and I don't mean to hate, it's just not what I'm striving for (this guy's resume)

Schools are not impressive - says more about his parents than about him.

Experience is top flite. It does not get better than this.

Actually this is getting kind of interesting. To put a twist into the discussion. What value do you guys think the Army Ranger on the resume added? Great (better than IBD Analyst), On Par, or not as helpful as going into the IBD Analyst --> pre-MBA PE, etc. I find out-of-ordinary/unique (in his case more challenging) career paths very intriguing. Going to Army Rangers and then to HBS, that’s awesome.

For someone who might wish to run for some type of office after "making" it in the industry and/or stay in finance, he has the creds. This guy has the elite education, veteran status, and banking/business leadership experience. I feel a resume like his opens more doors across a wider range of career paths.

Army Rangers...hardcore. People need to stop hating. Plenty of dudes can be an analyst and work in PE...very few people can be a Ranger. So intense. This guy would fucking assrape any of us if he wanted to.

Let me clear this up. Perhaps I erred in writing that it was something to strive for. When I saw the introductory sheet it struck me as champion like. Obviosuly this guy could have been an analyst out of college. And obviosuly this guy had the dough and didn't need to go ROTC or whatever at P. And he certainly didn't need to go Ranger. I think he's in his late 30s now. That puts him in combat in the Gulf War?

I believe there was some resume floating around of some kid who did Wharton undergrad straight to MBA, then going to a PE firm as an associate - probably the track that most of WSO would wank it to.

I've seen some ridiculous resumes... PBK, summa from HYP, Baker scholar at HBS, gigs at top-tier hedge funds basically their whole career.

Check out some of the H-squareds... unfortunately, they aren't compiled in any one place but some pretty impressive resumes.

That isn't impressive I played World of Warcraft for 5 Years. Had several world first kills such as: Onxyia, Kel'Thuzad and Hogger. All of this while in high school.

Now, fathom that for a second. While this n00b was in school learning Cal 2-3 and Linear Algebra I was PWNing the hardest raid mobs till 5 :00 AM AS A SHADOW PRIEST

who cares about the day school????????????????

What caught my eye was this guy is an Army Ranger. This guy went to to all the best schools and proably had his choice of employment upon graduation from college. Instead of GS, MS, MDP, MBB, or a host of other places, he opted for the Army, in a time of war, and went Ranger. This guy could have have been making his money on Wallstreet, instead he was most likely in Iraq and/or Afghanistan or some other God forsaken hellhole doing God knows what.

Yeah there are alot more "impressive " resumes out there, but this guys gets much respect.

For those don't know what Rangers are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Rangers

I'm surprised you guys aren't ragging him for being a "second tier" spec ops group or ranking the various army units.

It’s incredibly impressive that he was born with a silver spoon and then chose to pursue the military – especially a combat arms job. I went into the military out of necessity. RESPECT!!!!! If I had gone to Choate I would have told the recruiter to suck it.

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To even compare the KKR guy with the ranger is ridiculous. Some of you will go to Blackstone, some of you will go to KKR, some of you will go to two prestigious firms, a small amount of you to three...etc

None of you will EVER be an Army Ranger, or a member of any special forces team for that matter. None of you could even get close to becoming an Army Ranger. Do you know how fucking high the attrition rate is for ranger training? I'll tell you how high: extremely high.

I'd be willing to wager that in the past 10 years this is the only member of a United States Military Special Forces team to have also went to a school like Harvard. Do you know how rare that is to be both that smart and that physically gifted, and to top it off have that kind of mental fortitude? Combine those rare gifts with the added rarity of somebody willing to sacrifice a cushy lifestyle to go through that kind of training, and you're not talking one in a million, you're talking one in a I've never heard of another before ever. Possibly only a handful in the entire world.

While one guy was learning how to get coffee for Henry Kravis and maybe put some numbers into a database for the team during an internship, the other guy was out in a jungle skinning snakes (probably with his teeth) in order to make a snakeskin tourniquet. If anybody here knows what it's like for your skin to stick to your sock and peel off as you are removing your sock, you know 1/1000th of what this guy is capable of dealing with.

I knew ranger training was the real deal not only from anectdotes, but from when my drill sergeant (who, by the way, was both one of the sickest maniacs I've ever met and a ranger) said that even he wouldn't wish that training on anybody. Not his worst enemies, not terrorists, not anybody. It's that bad.

If this guy doesn't get the first offer from the firm of his choice, then it proves that this industry is even more detached from reality and more insane than even I had realized.

rebelcross:

To even compare the KKR guy with the ranger is ridiculous.

While difficult and impressive, not many people here aspire to be Rangers. Therefore, it's irrelevant that this guy was at the pinnacle of the career as most of us are not interesting in that. I'd take that KKR baller's path over the Army Ranger's anyday.

It seems most of the people impressed by the Ranger's background are those who have had military experience, or take an active interest in the military anyway. I had no idea what an Army Ranger was till I read this thread.

I don't see the Army Ranger path as anymore impressive than anyone else who achieved a lot of success in other feats such as olympic level athletes, people who started businesses which went on to sell for ridiculous amounts, scientists who made significant breakthroughs etc. Maybe I lack perspective, but isn't this all about perspective anyway? "Something to strive for?" I certainly am not striving to become a Ranger.

I'd be willing to wager that in the past 10 years this is the only member of a United States Military Special Forces team to have also went to a school like Harvard.

-There are plenty of Ex-Special Forces guys that went to top schools such as Harvard.

Rebel, I'd tend to agree with you on most accounts.

I am a Marine officer and I'll be heading to a top 3 b-school in the fall. In my experience, the knowledge and education regarding the current military at most schools is lacking. Yeah, there is great respect but I've gotten comments like "do you think you will be able to think on your own when you are at school," "how do you think you will interact with women," etc. The selectivity of the Army Rangers is top notch, esp the above's ability to get orders to the 75th Ranger Regiment.

One should not discount the selectivity of firms such as KKR. When it comes down to it, the Ranger will have the greatest leadership experience compared to his peers and the KKR associate will be in the upper eschelon in finance experience and intelligence. That being said, I think the Ranger's academic pedegree most likely indicates the would have excelled at KKR, but, without more information, we can guess that the KKR associate would not have excelled as a Ranger. I think thats the major difference.

Becoming an Army Ranger blows being a KKR Associate out of the water. How is there even any debate about this?

That was in the past darlin', doing a little better now. Not as good as you, I'm sure...

Is it just me or does this Ranger dude remind others of Bruce Wayne. Princeton UG -> Baller physical training -> kick-ass business man/financial professional. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude turns out to be a masked vigilante.

My military experience is shit compared to that ranger, you don't know what you're talking about. This was never about me, but anyway...best to you as well.

this discussion is stupid. there's no question that the ranger is clearly more impressive. As someone said earlier, the ranger has the potential to excel in the same environment as the KKR guy (high finance) but the KKR guy does not necessarily have the potential to excel AS A FUCKING RANGER!

No one is saying the KKR guy isn't impressive, but...who would you want to work with? The badass ranger or some nerdy 25 year old who did Summa at Wharton and an MBA??

Full disclosure: I'm at HYP and know many kids who are Summa, etc. I am not that impressed by academic credentials and there's a lot more to it than jerking off to a guy who studied 24/7 throughout college (more likely than not he's a big ass nerd). And even if he's not, the ranger guy is probably still cooler

Gentleman, I think we all need to relax. Admittedly, this was posted to engender conversation -but not this kind. Both of these guys have impressive backgrounds: one was a ranger and the other a finance champ at a young age. Each resume is impressive in its own right. And each series of accomploshments says something about the respective personal characteristics at play. But I would posit that the ranger is more interesting a fellow than the kkr guy, simply because of his unique military training. And i do agree with the ex-military poster about the rigors of ranger school. I've asked around; from what i can gather its one of the toughest schools there is. It supposedly includes 60 days of perpetual running, marching, and pushups on a limited diet. I'm told many start to smell naturally awful, an effect of their bodies buring muscle, having already blown through the fat.

What's with all the hate on this guy? You all sound like you went to public high schools.

Being a Ranger is a huge accomplishment, so is the KKR at such a young age. That being said I would much rather have the Ranger as a leader and employee. Special Forces provides something that no school or company can match.

That being said, we all have our opinions. Keep it civil.

Siding with the Ranger on this one. Yeah, the KKR guys is impressive, but I view someone who has Ranger experience as WAY more mentally tough than someone who doesn't. There are obvious exceptions, but for the vast majority this is true (again, my views, not fact). Leadership and teamwork learned from the Rangers is definitely something that stands out.

Full disclaimer, while no military experience, have researched SEALs/Rangers etc. because they are very intriguing to me.

WTF!, I'm not in the military. Nor do I really know anyone in active military duty. But how the F does one not know what an Army Ranger is?! They were the ones owning shyt in Black Hawk Down. The two that dropped down and started just ripping it up. I believe they also received posthumous the Medal of Honor.

Wow, a whole crap full of threads on perception. I agree that some of the people still in school need to get some reality check. Get out of their room from studying and experience things. Even if you are crazy smart and Summa at a Target, which I had the displeasure of working with, but a total annoying douche, no one cares and the bosses realize it as well. If you are lame and can only talk about how studying was so great and you got all A's in your classes, people will avoid you.

I am sure the KKR example also had an amazing story and personality to get there in addition to his/her grade, skills, and natural intell.

this is completely retarded. yo guy arguing that kkr is more impressive: you sound like a d-bag. no disrespect.

Honestly. There are way more people out there CAPABLE of doing what the kid that did Wharton --> MBA --> PE at 23 versus the amount of people CAPABLE of being an Army Ranger. Let alone one who has the education of the dude in question.

I mean, if you are KKR and are interviewing candidates, I'm not saying you definitely give the job to the ex-Ranger, but his intangibles would be through the roof. You can teach any smart, hardworking dude to do the work of IBD and PE, but you cannot teach the sheer will power and determination to succeed at all costs that the Ranger has within himself.

It comes down to this, one has reached very high places in the finance world.

The other has pushed himself to the limits of all that the human experience has to offer and that the human race is capable of...

Kind of puts the "finance world" in perspective doesn't it?

I think the whole point is a Wharton UG and then MBA is only hard to get into, not actually hard to do. An Army Ranger on the other hand is incredibly hard getting into and making through.

Both are impressive, but I would give the edge to the Ranger.

comes with being privileged

I'm not mad at him, though

Update

I've had the opportunity to chat with him for a few minutes since he's come on. He's actually a really nice guy, slightly waspy, but nice nonetheless. Expensive clothing, patek philippe, slicked back hair.... I'll report back if we should ever have a more indepth conversation.

Found a Ranger Handbook. It's intense man.

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/ranger.pdf

I know a few Rangers personally. They didn't go to top schools or anything, and weren't the sharpest people I ever met, but I definitely would trust my life in their hands if shit was going down.

Wait this is a real dude and not a conversational example? I ask because there aren't any butter bars in Ranger bats as far as I know or have ever heard, at least not infantry officers unless you have prior experience in the regiment as enlisted. You have to have been a very successful platoon leader elsewhere and then you get to come do it again. I guess he could have been in a staff job, but this silver spoon was not a fresh faced 2nd LT out of Princeton in a Ranger Battalion.

That aside, I think its difficult to generalize based on that one piece of information. He could be a good guy or he could be a giant tool. Being ranger qualified (60% fail rate on pre-selected candidates) means he's decently tough, think of your worst week as Ibanker, now replace deliver food 3 times a day with one shitty MRE, pitch book creation with walking through a swamp and you're climate controlled office with extreme temps (100 degrees int he summer, 40 degrees in the winter and you're soaked). If he actually was a PL in the regiment you know the following:

Top 1% of light infantry platoon leaders in the Army Can handle long periods without sufficient sleep or food Good under pressure Most of his skills from this period are non-transferable to business

Hate to be that guy but...Rangers aren't Special Forces. Badass resume none the less.

My senior mentor from military school got into the Battalion as an O-1 but that was a right place right time right resume godsend kind of thing. And as far as difficulty in terms of overall passage rate, selectivity, etc. Show me a guy with a scuba bubble. 90% attrition.

I'm completely dumbfounded as to what is impressive about this.

I like this one:

MIT, B.S. + M.Eng.

Engineer at IBM (2 years) Analyst M&A at GS (3 years)

Harvard, MBA

Associate at Lazard (2 years) Associate, Sr. Associate and VP in PE at BX (7 years) MD at Warburg Pincus (5 years)