blew R1s in NYC BB - 1st year MBA Ivy - next step
First-year MBA/Ivy b-school/did not get single invite for R1s at BBs (applied to all). Applied to coverage groups / Nat Res, Power
Got one for EMEA though - will interview, but love/would like to work long-term in NYC; somehow think - may be wrong that NYC is deeper in terms of ops.
Past: Big 4 Transactions advisory.
Would love to hear what this board thinks.
The term Ivy B School is meaningless. Massive difference between HBS/Wharton, and Yale/Tuck/Columbia. Also, if you're not getting a single invite, perhaps there's something wrong with your CV. If you're at a good school, getting first round interviews for IBD Associate positions should not be that difficult.
There is no massive difference between HBS/Wharton and Columbia. I know people who have turned down Wharton because they want to do the value investing program at Columbia. Either way, recruiting for i-banking is the same at Columbia and Wharton.
wrong. simplest way to verify this, is have a look at the mba cv books (class of 2011, Year 2) for all these 3 schools and see what internships they've got. wharton and harvard mba's did get much much better/more IBD internships than columbia. And for those of you, who want to diss HBS, these are guys are really the s***, particularly in terms of HF/PE recruitment,much better than Wharton or Stanford, combined. The background and internships these guys have, blew me away. One in every 10 CVs have blackstone, tpg, carlyle, thl, bain cap, silver lake, apax, etc etc written all over it..
If you want to do PE afterwards, there is no better school than HBS.simple as that. and IBD recruiting is easy-peasy coming from there. Before I saw these CV books, I really thought Wharton and Stanford are on par, in terms of PE/HF placement, but they are really miles away.
I would think being at a good school with very relevant pre-MBA experience you would be a lock to at least get 1st rounds. Maybe post your resume. Could be something turning employers off
There is not a massive difference between HBS/Wharton/Yale/Tuck/Columbia for IBD. They all have strong presence on the street. HBS has a strong brand, but the more I learn about it, the less impressed I am. The smallest difference I think is between Wharton and Columbia. I would say Tuck and Yale take a back seat to the others, but even then it is subjective to what you are looking to do.
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As I'm going through this process right now, and landed 10 first rounds, I can tell you 2 things that could be/probably are hurting you.
1.) how is your English? Fluency is obviously a must but accent-less is even better. The international kids largely struck out by my estimations.
2) possibly a corollary to one, how are your social skills? This is a tough self evaluation but I have to think the less- socially inclined kids know who the cool kids are and whether they are one of them. There IS a difference between being conversationally tolerant and actually having strong social skills. At the associate level this is much more relevant than at the analyst level.
Did you do in-person informationals? Did you get invited to any "secret" dinners after on-campus presentations?
You could be a fine candidate but there is a difference in what makes an associate and what makes and analyst. You could also be fine but relying in your resume isn't enough, they need to see your resume and know who you are. It's a numbers game and they are going to select the people who not only have decent resumes but also who have made an effort to meet guys on their own.
congrads on 10 first rounds
suspected that/not the extent though/christ/thanks!
seems weird that you aren't at least getting interviews
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