Booz Allen Hamilton prestige post-spinoff

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Hi,

I'm curious about the image of Booz Allen Hamilton since it spun off Booz & Co.

Prestige? Exit Opps (other consulting firms/finance/MBA)? Relative "tier" compared to other consulting firms? Any particular groups that are better than others?

Thanks

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Feb 14, 2010

Do a search before you post please.

Booz is below MBB. Solid place to work, but not as "prestigious" as the above mentioned.

Feb 14, 2010

I did do a search before I posted. I did not comb through the 10+ pages of results I was given, but if you could direct me to a post that addresses this question I will gladly admit my mistake.

Feb 14, 2010

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/booz-allen-c...
Half way down the page, within the post it mentions compensation, prestige, etc

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/booz-allen-h...
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/top-consulti...
This answers your question.

Not trying to be a jerk, but once you have been on the board for an extended period of time you see the same topics repeatedly.

Feb 14, 2010

In response to the first two links you suggested: The information in those posts are old- as in before Booz & Co. was spun off. They used to be one firm that focused on many areas; now they are two firms mainly focused on different areas.

In response to the third link you suggested: The author mentioned the name "Booz", which does not specify whether he was referring to Booz Allen Hamilton or Booz & Co. (but I infer that he was likely referring to Booz & Co.).

Maybe you are unaware that Booz Allen Hamilton and Booz & Co. are now separate entities?

Not trying to be a jerk, but I don't think you understand the differences between the posts already made and the questions I want answered. I want to understand the perception of Booz Allen Hamilton since it spun off Booz & Co. To my knowledge, there are no posts that cover this topic.

Feb 14, 2010

Yes, that was very helpful - thanks so much for the detailed response.

Feb 15, 2010

Booz Allen Hamilton does mostly government and defense related work. Probably comparable to the government focused groups at the big 4, the IT groups at a Northrop Grumman (compete for service based contracts i.e. integrating defense systems, not internal support), or an Accenture in terms of the work they compete for. They don't really compete with MBB, or even Booz for that matter.

If you want to live in the DC area or work with the government, BAH is probably one of your better bets. Anything else and you would be better served going with Booz & Co.

Feb 15, 2010

Finally, an insightful comment - thanks. Would an internship with BAH be looked favorably upon by MBB (I think at least McKinsey does public sector work)? From a full-time perspective, would working for BAH be looked favorably upon by MBA adcoms?

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Feb 15, 2010

nyg,

jimbo's point was bluntly made, but it has merit. This is a stupid thread. You want to hear us say "everyone at Booz shits ice cream" so you can then pat yourself on the back and otherwise congratulate yourself for working there. Who the fuck cares that Booz Allen and Boozy bozo are now two companies. People are even trying to help you work through this ridiculous question by indicating that a search may bear some fruit and instead you bitch about how you won't waste your precious time looking through the results. Basically, better that we should waste our time. Then someone pastes the relevant threads on a post for you, and your response is to whine at him like a petulant fucking know-it-all. We're all tired of stupid undergrads checking their future employer's "prestige pulse" every five minutes, but that's nothing compared to how tired we are of crap like this.

Feb 15, 2010

Wow, you really are a fucking moron (and an asshole). I do not work for Booz Allen, nor am I slated to work there. I am trying to decide between different summer options. For that very matter, hearing anyone say "everyone at Booz shits ice cream" when that isn't true would mislead me into a decision. The fact that the two companies are now different is significant because, from my understanding, they do very different work (you blithering idiot). You are even more retarded since you can't comprehend the fact that the topic was not touched upon since they split (I looked through a good amount of the search results - still haven't found any evidence that the topic was touched upon). The threads posted WERE NOT RELEVANT. You are the one who is acting like a "petulant fucking know-it-all", shitbrick. I am not trying to "check my future employer's prestige pulse", I am trying to make an informed decision that will give me the best options going forward.

You fucking dumbass.

Feb 15, 2010

Be a little more polite in the future. Do a search and do some reading. Maybe what you are looking for hasn't been 100% answered, but you will find that BAH has been discussed in one for or another many times.

FYI --> I edited your post.

Feb 15, 2010

I did a search, I did some reading. The company's status has not been discussed post-spinoff. I don't understand how this is not getting across. The fact that the two focus on very different fields makes a big difference in the work they do and I would be doing.

And I treated him with an equal level of (im)politeness with which he treated me, so do not lecture me about politeness.

Feb 15, 2010
nyg92:

Hi,

I'm curious about the image of Booz Allen Hamilton since it spun off Booz & Co.

Prestige? Exit Opps (other consulting firms/finance/MBA)? Relative "tier" compared to other consulting firms? Any particular groups that are better than others?

Thanks

BAH does all govt. It is a solid firm, but not MBB. Booz & Co is different and is probably more in line with MBB.

Your original question is pertaining to BAH. Most of the threads and posts talk about BAH.

Question answered.

Furthermore, you have been a member for 4 hours. You posted your question 2 hours ago. I don't consider that a long time looking for answers.

Feb 15, 2010

Furthermore, you have been a member for 4 hours. You posted your question 2 hours ago. I don't consider that a long time looking for answers.

Just because the time between the creation of my account and my post is only 2 hours does not mean I've only been on wallstreetoasis for 2 hours.

what are your other summer options

BAH should give you a good advantage for MBB full time

My other summer options are finance with non BB/elite boutiques (I only attend a semi-target and I have no real work experience yet). I'm trying to figure out what will position me for the best full-time options (whether it be in finance or consulting, as I really like both lines of work equally), with the eventual goal being Business School.

nyg, disregarding that attitude (though maybe not completely uncalled for - still a little much),

Ok, maybe a bit overboard, but certainly not entirely uncalled for.

BAH after the spinoff does SOLELY govt and the like, as you may have learned from their site. they used to be up there near no.1 until mbb took the cake. so prestige-wise, they're not as high as they could have been. however, exit-opps depends on where you wanna go. if you want to work for the nsa or the treasury afterwards, you might want to look into it. if you want to exit to industry - might also want to give it a shot. just to stick on your resume - aint bad at all, especially if you have a few "achievements" for the bullet-points.
i doubt it will be bad for your future prospects, especially if you network well during the summer. i think the BAH brand still holds water. then again i'm not much of an authority.

As I said earlier in the post, I am aiming for the best full-time consulting or finance options possible. Trying to weigh whether BAH will give me better full-time consulting chances than the full-time finance options I will have after working at a non BB/elite boutique.

Feb 15, 2010

what are your other summer options

BAH should give you a good advantage for MBB full time

Feb 15, 2010

nyg, disregarding that attitude (though maybe not completely uncalled for - still a little much), BAH after the spinoff does SOLELY govt and the like, as you may have learned from their site. they used to be up there near no.1 until mbb took the cake. so prestige-wise, they're not as high as they could have been. however, exit-opps depends on where you wanna go. if you want to work for the nsa or the treasury afterwards, you might want to look into it. if you want to exit to industry - might also want to give it a shot. just to stick on your resume - aint bad at all, especially if you have a few "achievements" for the bullet-points.
i doubt it will be bad for your future prospects, especially if you network well during the summer. i think the BAH brand still holds water. then again i'm not much of an authority.

"... then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."

Feb 15, 2010

which kind of elite ibd boutique are we talking about here

greenhill/evercore/moelis?

if so i'd take elite boutique since it has similar ops for consulting and stronger for finance

Feb 15, 2010

BAH will be at least a little impressive. if all you'll be doing at the finance gig will be making coffee and taking notes, naturally you won't have much to show for it. same thing goes for the other way round. try finding out what your actual work will encompass. people know internships don't usually involve saving the world. you should look for one with some prestige, but that will also provide you with some things to boast of. "on my internship at XX i learned that blabla. i understood this while working on the thingy"

"... then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."

Feb 15, 2010

Sorry 7S, I realize my language was confusing. They are finance opportunities at banks that are neither BB nor elite boutiques.

dagro, I certainly understand that - I will definitely try my best to figure out the work I will be doing at each option, but I wanted to get a gauge purely off name brand. It is my impression that, when choosing whom to interview, companies are attracted to names. Clearly once I get into the interview I will need experiences/skills to reference from a previous internship, but certain firms' names (and the perception of the services they provide) are better than others (if only marginally) for landing interviews, all else equal. That's why I want to know how much weight the BAH name could pull in the consulting world, vs. how much weight a non BB/non elite boutique bank could pull in the finance world, all else equal.

Feb 15, 2010
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"... then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."