Can I sue my bank if I get attacked during my commute once the bank forces me to go back to the office?

So far, no bank to my knowledge has addressed public safety issues in their plan to bring people back into the office. And if you pay any attention to local newspapers and what candidates for the mayor office are talking about, you would know that safety has become a luxury for people who can afford to Uber into the office every morning. Therefore, if I get brutally attacked and maybe even paralyzed during my commute on public transportation, can I sue the bank?

WSO Elite Modeling Package

  • 6 courses to mastery: Excel, Financial Statement, LBO, M&A, Valuation and DCF
  • Elite instructors from top BB investment banks and private equity megafunds
  • Includes Company DB + Video Library Access (1 year)

Comments (85)

Learn More

300+ video lessons across 6 modeling courses taught by elite practitioners at the top investment banks and private equity funds -- Excel Modeling -- Financial Statement Modeling -- M&A Modeling -- LBO Modeling -- DCF and Valuation Modeling -- ALL INCLUDED + 2 Huge Bonuses.

Learn more
Jun 24, 2021 - 3:19pm

No it's not dude. Explain to me the magnitude of the Road Warrior-esque hellscape that the good people of NYC are currently having to do battle against? And how is the risk of getting knocked out any different post-COVID than prior?

Honestly, just keep your Rape Whistle around your neck and all the dystopian street gangs littered across midtown Manhattan will surely leave you alone. 

And if your Rape Whistle doesn't deter any nihilistic street gangs, you can defend yourself with the "THATS MY PURSE! I DONT KNOW YOU!" self defense style

That's My Purse! I Don't Know You!

Hear me now, children, for my occupation is of much import. For 82 years I have been an oil man, a ‘baron’ some have called me. Now what does an oil baron do? The answer - crush your enemies! Grind their bones into dirt! Make them regret that they were ever born! Oil is not for the weak - it is the Earth’s milk, and only the strong may suckle at Mother’s teat!

  • 1
Jun 23, 2021 - 12:22pm

Not sure where you live, but I have had a few days at the office already and none of the mentioned risks are part of reality in most finance cities. At least from what I have seen during a commute.

If your neighborhood isn't safe, you can move?
If you are in a constitutional carry/unrestricted place or have a CCW, then that would be another option if you really think it is a necessity.

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Jun 23, 2021 - 7:48pm

CCW would be a helpful tool for safety, but unfortunately the hub of finance in NYC is a liberal "paradise" where a CCW is near impossible to get...

Most Helpful
  • Intern in PE - Other
Jun 23, 2021 - 8:06pm

The cool thing about concealment is that no one knows you're carrying. 

On a more patriotic note, it is your duty to break a law if it is unjust.

Jun 24, 2021 - 2:01am

A weapon doesn't have to be a gun though, there are legal carry options out there. So many other things to pick from. When I was a little younger and didn't have the funds for expensive guns, I carried a thick, insulated copper wire with a heavy knot at the end. It resembled a monkey fist:

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AFB3FD

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AZHMfl

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A3ANmR

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jun 23, 2021 - 2:19pm

You probably don't know many analysts then because most analysts live in midtown/hells kitchen/murray chill/turtle bay for midtown offices which are walking distance. If you moved to LES/Chelsea/Tribeca/East Village and work in midtown, that's your own dumb decision you'll have to live with. 

  • Investment Manager in HF - Other
Jun 23, 2021 - 1:44pm

You continue with these doom and gloom posts. I'm not sure if you are serious, and are really this concerned.  

I live in nyc, take the subway and walk around, and as long as you have common sense and are aware of your surroundings (as you should be in any large city) you are fine. It's not as safe as Tokyo, but is still overall a very safe large city. 

Additionally, your firm isn't responsible for your commute, you are making a decision to live and work somewhere. It's not like they are asking you to commute to Iraq, but go ahead and ask for hazard pay…

  • Investment Manager in HF - Other
Jun 23, 2021 - 2:13pm

1) just use logic and look at a longer period than just the last 2 years. NYC is still a safe city. 2020 had fewer violent and non violent crimes than 2000-2003 (chose that window because easy to find that info - by a large margin it was safer) - and is still doing well relative to other major cities  

2) yes crime is up, but there is now a much higher response to this from NYPD. If you look at the very short trend (number of officers out now, etc) I would expect the forward looking to be very safe, but I can't see into the future. 

Jun 23, 2021 - 4:23pm

Take the commute as a blessing. You might meet some nice homeless schizos, see how much you have in common, and realize what your true calling is.

I’m a fun guy. Obviously I love the game of basketball. I mean there’s more questions you have to ask me in order for me to tell you about myself. I'm not just gonna give you a whole spill... I mean, I don't even know where you're sitting at

  • 1
Jun 23, 2021 - 7:59pm

The homeless people here in New York are mostly harmless, unlike the homeless people you might see in other cities in the country. 

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jun 26, 2021 - 12:27pm

Actually, it will. Is some street thug going to target some insecure pansy on the street who is an easy target or a guy who knows he's not someone to fuck with and conducts himself in such a manner? 

  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Jun 23, 2021 - 8:19pm

just carry a SPAS-12 around wherever you go and shoot the guy if he tries to attack you

Jun 23, 2021 - 10:34pm

Judging by the extremely violent nature of the crimes that have happened in New York City recently, getting robbed is the least of one's concerns. 

Jun 25, 2021 - 12:17pm

Dude the NYPD published data shows there were about 34.7k violent crimes in NYC this year so far, strictly doing a uniform distribution over the population that puts it at 0.4% odds of being the victim. Of those 21k are against property (burglary, grand larceny and grand larceny auto), so your odds, uniformly, go down to 0.15%. Combine that with the fact that most violence occurs between people who know each other, and based on the latest data I could find only 38% of violent crime occurs between strangers so your odds now go down to 0.05%. And this is assuming a uniform distribution of crime across the city, which we know is not the case, crime is heavily correlated with poverty and the density of attacks is clearly lower in the UES compared to Brownsville. If you take that into account your odds (assuming you are living in a relatively upscale area of NYC) drop even more dramatically, probably by two orders of magnitude. 

Stop living in fear, the data doesn't bear it out. 

Sources:

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/pr0603/nypd-citywide-crime-statistics-may-2021

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

Jun 23, 2021 - 9:02pm

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopussyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

STONKS
  • 1
Jun 23, 2021 - 11:00pm

Lmao. No. But you can most certainly press charges against the assailant. Assume he would have a limited net worth so good luck.

Really can't believe this is even a thought. Crime in major cities has always been a thing. Anyone of us is equally exposed to the chance of being assaulted. Have you ever been stuck in parkway traffic on a Friday evening or Monday morning?

Jun 24, 2021 - 7:19am

Yet again, limousine liberals show they're out of touch with the realities of life of the every day New Yorker. While you all hide in a bubble and deny crime exists, New Yorkers have consistently been citing crime and public safety as their #1 concern. Look who's about to win the Democratic primary. A former NYPD cop who has pushed for more policing. 

Array

  • Investment Manager in HF - Other
Jun 24, 2021 - 9:08am

So instead people should listen to you, who doesn't live in nyc, and just last year were asking whether things were as bad as you saw on the news? Now all of a sudden you know more than everyone else?

No one is arguing the crime statistics (at least I haven't and I don't see that happening). There was more crime in 2020 than 2019. The question is whether this makes nyc a dangerous place, which when you compre to history and other places it isn't very dangerous. Is crime a concern? Yes, people don't want crime to continue rising and NYC is a great city and everyone wants to be able to enjoy it. But is a post about suing your employer because the office make any sense? Absolutely not. 

Jun 24, 2021 - 11:04am

Where did I say to listen to me? Listen to the people of NYC who went from defunding and cutting the police budget by $1B to electing a retired cop whose main talking point was boosting police presence in one year. Adams wouldn't be getting elected if the rise in crime wasn't bad enough that everyday people would notice. 

Regarding OP suing his employer I agree that it can't happen as I mentioned above.

P.S.

Did you actually just go through my post history to find that thread from one year ago???

Array

Jun 24, 2021 - 9:04am

I've lived in NYC my entire life and commuted across the city to get to my school in one of the most shit areas of the Bronx. You're delusional if you think the city is that dangerous. Despite the current crime wave this city isn't in the middle of fucking Iraq learn to grow a pair and don't look like a pussy and no one will check you. As soon as you start to look scared or like a bitch you're more likely to get attacked not only in NYC but any major city.

Jun 24, 2021 - 2:19pm

I disagree with the assumption of your last sentence. And it is sad to hear that you have been accustomed to this level of violence that you have become complacent and consider it as status quo. On a global level, NYC is far from being the safest big city. There are much larger cities in the world that are WAY safer than NYC is and will ever be. 

Jun 24, 2021 - 4:58pm

That's a massive lie. NYC isn't the safest city but for the average person it's completely safe as long as you have some awareness. NYC is the 10th largest city in the world and the only 2 cities I'd say are safer are Osaka and Tokyo and they're both in Japan which is safe because of the Yakuza having a choke hold on crime and working with the government. The rest of the cities are absolute shitholes to live in and I've visited many of them. A large portion of the crime spike right now is gang related and unless you start repping a gang you'll largely be fine. I don't think you have any authority to comment on NYC's violence when you haven't even been here. 

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Jun 24, 2021 - 11:00am

If I were you I would wear the most expensive suit, watch and deal sleds you can afford to show those cowardly low lives that you are untouchable. If they still confront you and don't notice (probably non-target scum who can't tell the difference between LV and Gucci) you should assure them that your father has powerful connections in law and that they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent. 

  • Principal in Legal
Jun 25, 2021 - 9:46am

2 possibilities for who OP is:

  1. A gigantic troll (just look at his other activity on WSO).
  2. The analyst who always complains, never can seem to get his shit together, isn't focused, causes everyone else to pick up his slack, etc.  The staffers and fellow analysts hate him equally and he'll burn out in < 1 year.  
Jun 25, 2021 - 11:09am

Haha…can't I be both? On another note, I understand you commenting this may boost your ego and that would such a shame that you have to resort to this in order to do so. Feel free to do my work for me as I slack off

Start Discussion

Total Avg Compensation

August 2021 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (10) $853
  • Vice President (36) $363
  • Associates (210) $232
  • 2nd Year Analyst (121) $152
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (28) $146
  • Intern/Summer Associate (102) $144
  • 1st Year Analyst (449) $132
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (358) $82