Can you fake graduation date?
I know it is immoral and highly risky, but I won't be asking this if I am not completely out of options and have nothing to lose...
I'm thinking there is no way for the recruiting company to know your graduation date without your consent. Under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act, if you indicate to the university that you want no one to see your academic information (including graduation date), that information cannot be released to ANY source.
Any ideas?
Don't do it. Be truthful on your resume. You will get dinged in the future for lying about it.
More importantly the employer can look at your transcript during the background check.And if you tell them you can't that will raise red flags and probably get you not hired.
The fact that you have to quote "the family educational right and privacy act" means whatever you did will most likely show up on the background check...
How about you stop being a little b*tch and start being honest
Do you really think a bank is going to extend an offer without looking through your transcript? And what do you think they'll say when you quote the fucking Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act?
How exactly do they get your transcripts during a background check? Do they ask you to give them to them--like send an official copy to HR? JW
Legal but not advisable. The name of the game is trust, but you don't want them to know one of your most basic stats? What is it that you're hiding???
I swear, it amazes me how prospective candidates get dumber by the day.
You are admitting it is immoral, so why the fuck would you do it? Better hope you never cross paths with me along your search.
Put it this way: Whatever is on paper, is on paper.
Background checks get your transcript if you send it (obviously). A background check can only determine when you graduated and where you graduated from.
For this purpose, you will fail the background check. Or if there's an indiscrepancy, they will ask the school for an official transcript. All my official transcripts during the grad school process, had to be sealed and delivered by the school (took 9-12 days).
I'm assuming you want a junior year internship. Here's the deal: You can get it without lying. Just find a smaller firm without a strict, formal process. Or, apply to a MSF/Masters program, do it in between graduation and the start. Many of my Oxford friends did this.
Or, if you really need it, elect a 2nd major, take longer in school, or do a double degree. Go to your registrar and change the date. Apply with that date. Done. Is it immoral? It depends. But it's not lying.
I'm not sure, but I definitely think you should fake your gpa upwards. Make it an even 3.95, that'll get you interviews. While your at it, go ahead and say you went to Harvard or Penn.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to do, but couldn't you re-enroll for classes/additional major at the school you went to, so that you are still a current student?
Due to the bashing already present in this thread, I hesitate to ask this question, but I will anyways. JimmyDormany kind of touched on my question. I am hoping to graduate in 4 years, but there is a very real possibility I graduate in 5. Would it be okay for me to put the graduation date for 4 years going into Junior Summer recruiting, and then if I need to change the extra time, change it afterwards? If so, and if I manage to get an internship my junior summer, how would this affect any return offers I might get? Appreciate the help!
don't see the problem with putting "expected" graduation at the 4 year mark.
That should be fine...but you have to realize that if you don't graduate in time, then you won't be able to accept the return offers (im pretty sure they are all reliant on graduating) - you will still get the internships though.
But if you get a return offer, why wouldnt you just hustle to graduate in time? take 6 classes/semester if need be
I guess I could, but it would probably involve dropping a major. I guess I ask because I was hoping to use this true ambiguity in when I will graduate to my advantage. Say that I didn't get a BB SA spot Junior year. I could get another MM spot and then try to leverage it the next year (the summer after my senior year, but a year from graduation). If I got a return offer but decided I wanted to stay for another year, is there any chance a bank would let me defer my offer a year, or come back for another summer internship or something? Sorry about all the questions, I'm just trying to thoroughly think out any situations that could occur.
Dude, seriously, are you trolling? If not: Get SA + Offer (harder than you think) -> if you want to take the offer, do whatever you can to graduate in time including dropping a major If impossible to graduate in time and you need 0,5 years longer or something, talk to them and say it. I know someone who deferred for a whole year!
If you want to totally torpedo your chances at a great career -> lie about your graduation date, quote the privacy act and see what happens...you won't like it.
As wannabe said, just put expected and you are FINE!
It depends.
The only way for your employer to know your graduation date is by looking at your transcript. And all BBs will need a copy of the official transcript during the background check process.
That being said, some graduating seniors 'lie' about their expected graduation date so that they can get an interview for internship. And this is OK as far as I know.
I know a guy who worked at a MM for one year, then get in a BB through campus recruiting. I don't know how he did it, and I wouldn't recommend it.
I am not sure about your situation. But as you have said yourself, this is very risky and you will certainly be asked for a copy of your transcript. Your only chance is if HR completely overlooks graduation date on your transcript. But again this is very unlikely.
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