Your view will likely change over time.  For her age, Jennifer Aniston, has it all going on.   Most women do not look like her at 51.   She must be doing something right or has very good genes.  She is also worth about 200 million.

A couple of my faves are Katharine Mcphee and Selena Gomez.

 

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I just looked up Kathrine Mcphee, apparently she's into older dudes, which works in your favor.

I think that I am too young for her, haha.  I had such a crush on her when she tried out out for American Idol a long time ago.  

 

Beauty is subjective. What looks a 10 to me might be a 7 to you. IMO Blake Lively is more beautiful than Ivanka, but she isn’t a 9. Another example, Ive never found Angelina Jolie to be as stunning as everyone says she is, she’s still beautiful just not all that IMO. On the other hand Alessandra Ambrosia is gorgeous much more beautiful than Angelina.

 

Diminishing marginal utility as the girls get hotter... pick someone who’s above a certain hotness threshold and treats you well and makes you a better person, an 8 who’s a good human being who wants to see you succeed is light years better than a 10 who’s a mentally ill leach

 

I don’t about you, but I like pretty girls with issues, like daddy issues and shit. They’re the best, I’ve only dated one girl like that for like 6 months, but damn... she was an easy 10 and absolutely insane.

 

Guys often grossly inflate ratings and most girls end up in the 6-9 range. If you think about it, that’s pretty high and most people likely aren’t in the upper bracket of appearance.

Of course looks are subjective so everyone will rate differently but the guy rating every girl a 7 probably doesn’t have very particular preferences and would settle for most girls, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing either.

 

Very subjective. I’m honestly surprised by how many people are ok with butterfaces. In no way does a girl with the face of a horse or another dude become an 8 just because she isn’t fat. Have some standards kids

 

They do be looking photoshopped. I prefer natural beauty, not too much filter/makeup. Anyone can go up 2-3 points on the 1-10 scale with makeup and shit.

 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but there's a material difference between a 6 and a 9. For example, the left below is a solid 6 and the right is an 8.5-9 (assuming both have normal lower bodies). Anyone who thinks otherwise is an outlier (not a bad thing necessary).

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If this is the best you can do for a 9, you are not looking in the right places.

 
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Lets turn this thread into something else!...

Here are some easy ones we can all agree on:

Emma Watson (Deathly Hallows part 1) - 8

Margot Robbie (Wolf of WS) - 9, that one scene is still common yank bait. 

Cindy Vortex - 9

Megan Fox (1st Transformers) - 9.5 , millennial twinks idolized this wench for half a decade b/c of that movie.

Jennifer Lawrence (Hunger Games series) - 6 , very overrated in my opinion.

Sophia Bush (One Tree hill seasons 1-6) - 7.5 , underrated and her voice is cute. 

Alexandra Daddario (True Detective) - 9.5

Emily Ratajkowski - 9.5 (don't argue, this is a lock) 

Melissa McCarthy - T H I C C - 1

The following are debatable: 

Keira Knightley (Pi o C #1) - 8 (acquired taste for some)

Scarlett Johansen (Pre 2016) - 8 , good all around until the dike haircut and ugly tattoos

Kendall Jenner (present day) - 8.5 , small titts but top tier legs

Kate Upton (pre 2017) - 8.5 , massive juggs

Mila Kunis (friends with benefits) - 7.5

Anna Kendrick (Pitch Perfect 1) - 8 (tier 2 redhead behind Daddario)

Amy Schumer - 2 

Sandra Bullock (Blind Side) - 7 , oldie but goodie

Carla Gugino (Entourage) - 6.5

Malin Akerman (Billions) - 5.5

*On the argument above*

Young Blake Lively, early gossip girl seasons, easily 8+, honestly a 9-10 if you were really into the show.

Ivanka trump is so corporate it can be hard to see her as sexy but she's a solid 8 in my book, decreasing with age. Guess I give Blake the slight nod. 

Honestly ratings for actresses/models are a little more strict but would love to hear some other takes!

 

I’ve never found Daddario attractive, she’s like a 4 to me. Emma Watson is not an 8, she has the cute step sister vibe, she’s like a 6.5. Jennifer Lawrence is overrated but push her up to a 7. Basically agree on everything else, perhaps some lady’s on there could be pushed up or down by 1 or 2 points, but essentially agree with the list. 
 

Sb for the well though out reply.

 

Amy Schumer - 2 

Not sure why this is in the “debatable” category. Pls fix

 

How are you mentioning Entourage and not factoring in Emmanuelle Chriqui? Beauty is subjective and she is a hard 9 for me, but does anyone think she is less than a solid 8? She’s an absolute missle.

 

Damn, y’all really only think white girls are hot lol

 

I don't necessarily think it is a race thing, but it does play a role. The Western countries still have majority White people (especially if you account for Europe).

More settled now in life - but honestly, if I had met a beautiful black/brown/(any other race) girl earlier in my life - I would have gone out with her. But the likelihood of that scenario just isn't very high if you grow up in White countries with White friends and White colleagues. Religious aspects also have a say in this (chances are the people in your place of worship look like you).

But I have to admit that race plays a much bigger role in dating than elsewhere. Among hundreds of friends I have in multiple countries, I don't think I have ever heard that any guy would be willing to date and/or marry a black woman. there are mixed-race marriages and relationships, but black/brown doesn't seem like a possibility for many reasons unknown to me (guessing it is family values, religion, society, and more).

 

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No one is a 10 except VS models. That's facts. Anything below is subjective.

No one is a 10. 

There are 8.9s, 9.0s, 9.1s, 9.2s, 9.3s, 9.4s, 9.5s. There is a beauty asymptote below 10. The perfect female does not exist. Everyone has flaws.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

haha no I wish - thought she was pretty hot - she has the perfect body - chiseled 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Ivanka Trump has been rumored to have had a nose, chin and tit job. Not fair to compare as she had some help. I appreciate natural beauty and features. But she is still nice to look at. Solid 8.5. 

 

MangoTang

Ivanka Trump has been rumored to have had a nose, chin and tit job. Not fair to compare as she had some help. I appreciate natural beauty and features. But she is still nice to look at. Solid 8.5. 

A lot of people with lots of money have work done.  Take a look at Lori Greiner and Robert Herjavec from the Shark Tank.  I have no proof that they have had work done but Lori looks more youthful today than 10 years ago.  Robert has more hair today than 10 years ago.   For me, it is more impressive when someone does it naturally. 

 

This rating stuff is so dumb. Everyone you guys say are 6's or 7's are actually 9's, 9.5, 10. If this is meant to put the entire population into deciles, you have to think about literally everyone on the planet. Nearly everyone mentioned above are actresses, insta models, etc. They are all 10's, they are literally the top 10% of the population in looks if not the top 1-2%.

Also very curious to hear your own self-assessment of your looks based on the same criteria you apply to others...

 

Rating stuff s dumb, but it’s also fun. In real life, once you get to know a girl, she can become more attractive based on her personality. There’s also plenty of girls who aren’t models/actresses that are very attractive. I’m probably a 7/10 in terms of looks, think if I can drop a few pounds, can be an 8 easy.

 

Also very curious to hear your own self-assessment of your looks

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"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Scale is fucked. You need to use a normal distribution homies. My only hard and fast rule is that you can only be less than a 2 if you're fat. But the image with the two chicks are not above average. high 4 to low 5 at most lol. Ivanka is definitely more than 1 standard deviation from the mean in terms of attractiveness. Std. deviation on a 10 point scale should be about 1.5 if you wanna capture the whole population so Ivanka should be about 7-8 at a minimum. Blake lively might be a tiny bit more attractive but not that much so solid 8. 

 

This is so interesting. I've always wondered whether guys rate girls on a scale of 'hotness' eg insta girls or on 'beauty' eg Christy Turlington when she was young. Or is there no difference?

https:// www.pinterest. co.uk/pin/ 419045940330647555/

 

There are very few 10s out there. 

I can only think of a few off the top of my head. There is a big difference between a 10 and a 9 in my opinion. 9's are any beautiful women that have achieved peak beauty standards. But in my book a ten has to have something else other than just a pretty face, they have to be successful in other ways. 

Alica Schmidt- a German sprinter

Neri Oxman- Professor at MIT, also Bill Ackman's wife

Jutta Leerdam- Dutch speed skater

Gal Gadot- actress

But I might have a type, German and Israeli women.

 

And also: it is far more difficult for a woman to be perceived as "attractive" through a 2-dimensional, digital channel than in real life. the women we see on social media, dating websites and youtube are losing their IRL advantage of 3 dimensions (plus pheromones, character, personality, etc). Therefore the "extreme" outliers with extreme looks (ie curves), makeup, dress code etc have more clout. ("attractive" hear means the superficial variant based on looks, since that is mostly all we see through IG et all). I had dates with online-9s that looked really different IRL.

A regular, great girl we would like IRL might be perceived differently because she doesn't photograph well. All these models we see have professional hair, makeup, photographers and perfect lighting and really good editing.

 

Plastic is fun. i like barbie dolls and yes you're a boomer.

 

Attractiveness is all related to the protrusion of the maxilla bone in the skull, not subjective in the slightest, nor is it genetic for that matter. The sooner y'all recognize this the sooner you'll know how the world works.

Also that dentistry is a scam i.e. treating the symptoms not the causes. I could open this can of worms but idk if wso is ready. If you research this you can't unknow it.

 

Not exactly. If a heart attack was 100% in all cases preventable through proper lifestyle then I'd say yes. Although an argument could be made that there will always be a market catering to people's laziness and incompetence e.g. fat loss pills.

 

Those are related but I'm primary talking about oral posture and the works of John Mew and his son Mike Mew. Look up orthotropics.

You have cases of identical twins at birth, one treated with orthotropics and the other conventional orthodontics and braces: the differences speak for themselves:

 

I'm 100% serious. Archeologists find that pretty much all ancient human skulls pre-agricultural revolution have no teeth crowding or crooked teeth, the same is found with many indigenous tribes today. Crooked teeth and long, narrow faces are the result of poor oral and overall posture and softer diet, meaning facial bones and musculature don't develop as much. Although you can make changes with time, according to Wolff's law bones are not static and they change shape over time given long-term forces acting on them. An extreme case is Stephen Hawking, since his facial muscles atrophied and the bones had no forces to counteract gravity, so his facial bones literally melted downward over time. Another example is stroke victims who lose function over half their facial muscles. Over time, it's shown that the skeletal structure under the afflicted area deforms. Also why mouth breathers have ugly long faces.

In addition to orthotropic, the YouTube channel Things I've Learned has a good video on it.

Long story short - perfect models aren't somehow genetically gifted - their faces just look how they're supposed to. Everyone else is just varying degrees of deformed. Long faces and crooked teeth are purely a symptom of the modern lifestyle.

 

A lot of the disparity comes from different points of reference.  For instance, I have a good friend who is substantially less successful with women than I am.   He consistently rates every woman we see substantially higher than I do (I joke that to adjust to his scale I should just add 1.5 to everything).  I think this is due to the fact that in his "universe" of women, an "objective" 8 is about as high as he'll ever go, therefore he inflates her rating to a 9-10.  A theory that I can't prove is that this is broadly applicable - men who are less successful with women rate all women as more attractive, and those who are highly successful rate women as less attractive (relative to a mean).  

 

Funny thing about this whole thread is that I can imagine women on similar message board (ie. UterusOasis.com) rating you all a 6 or under. Look in the mirror and really think what women rank you at before you start calling a 6 or 7. I betcha that 6 probably things some of you are 4s. As someone above said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyones 10 is different.

 

The thing is, the rating will always depend on your crowd or lack thereof. If you're a sig chi bro whos evaluating a new kappa chick yes you might be able to come to a consensus with regards to how hot the chick is based on everyone's opinion. And I get that the group opinion sways the majority most of the time but picture yourself without that counsel, you're more likely prone to rate the chick higher or lower based on your real opinion. And through my convos with the girl that seems to be a pretty common thing with chicks too. At the end of the day, you'll easily be able to decide intrinsically who factors as an awful broad or a 10 in your mind based on your preference. Pretty important to remind yourself that it's super subjective and that there is a distinction to be made between what the boys call a 6 or 10 and what you consider a 6 or 10. No use coming to an online board and trying to reassure yourself what really works for you

 

The scale is an illusion, an illusion made up by 12 year old boys who have never even talked to a girl.

Beauty, is how you make other people feel.

I've met women, who were objectively not 9's, but whose personalities made you not care.  Above a certain value on looks are the least interesting thing about a person.  Are they smart, kind, good natured, funny?  Who needs more than a "6" with any 1-2 of those.  You need physical attraction, but as you get older the mental attraction is what becomes most important, people get more interesting.

 

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