CFA® results: who took it?

Passed L1 wooooo

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I used the Schweser material (books and Q-bank), only read the Ethics section of the CFAI material, and then hammered out all the EOC questions from CFAI. Personally, I felt that there is just too much to read from CFAI, depending on how much time you plan to prepare for, reading speed, etc. I then spent the last week and a half reviewing CFAI questions, both from the books and online, and I felt pretty confident on test day.

 

From the people I have talked to, it seems that Level II is harder than Level I. Apparently the Q-Bank is not as effective for Level II because of the style of questions that are asked on the exam. I'm sure it also depends on how comfortable and familiar you are with the material.

 

I passed... barely.

70%: Alt Inv., Portf. Management

6 topics within 51-70%.

I need a break and will NOT be taking the CFAII this June. Also, it's a beast and starting now doesn't allow for enough time to study.

 

I passed... barely.

70%: Alt Inv., Portf. Management

6 topics within 51-70%.

I need a break and will NOT be taking the CFAII this June. Also, it's a beast and starting now doesn't allow for enough time to study.

 

I passed level I with only the Schweser, Level II with almost only the Schweser notes, and since my work covers it ahead of time got the biggest Schweser kit since I don't want to mess around and deal with taking level III twice. Twice for Level II was enough! I think Schweser is the way to go, cuts out on the crap and gives you a few more practice tests.

 

I'm in the same boat as Cubsfanatic, work covers it so I'll be purchasing both. Probably start with reading only Schweser again - and see how prep test / EOC go. If I'm struggling in certain areas, I'll hop back to CFAI and read the material.

 
Best Response

Congrats to all.

Coming from someone who passed L2 but is not taking L3, I do not recommend taking level 2 unless you really need the designation. It is a different exam that is much more challenging. Level 1 provides a lot of signaling that you know finance and that's great. If you applied the work you need to do on level 2 (which is 100-200 hours really) towards getting a job in finance (or working in your existing career) I think it will help your career more.

CFA also really needs to redo their quant section. This isn't the 1970s anymore and Breusch Pagan is a poor heteroskedasticity test. Taking the CFA's quant section is like a geography test that first asks you which city is the capital of West Germany and then asks you "What is the area of the Aral Sea?" Sorry but since the Aral Sea has been shrinking for the past 60 years, whatever the test makers think is the correct answer is wrong... And you're not 100% sure what they think the right answer is.

Note to CFA: Either hire a competent CMU, Princeton, NYU, Berkeley, Stanford or Columbia Financial Engineering prof to redo the quant section, or kill it.

See Jared Dillian's article on the CFA exam. My take: once you sign up for L2, the CFA Institute has claimed 500 hours of your life (+ 2 8 hour exams). Level 1 is a good signal. I don't think L2 helps you.

 
riomma-bjj:

But everyone in India / China is going at it, it may be a signal that he industry is getting more competitive, thus we need/must have it?

Hmm. I am going to wait for one of the CCCP's 5 cent posters to laugh at Americans for not knowing Breusch Pagan and then tell them they win a free resort vacation at the Aral Sea for their cutting edge stats know-how.

Seriously, after passing L1, No Visa required >>> L2.

 
Ding_Dong:

What is this band 9 or band 10 stuff?

It only applies to the ones who didn't pass: a 1 means that your grade is in the lowest "percentile", a 10 means you barely missed the passing grade.

When you pass a exam you dont need to have a score band assigned.

 

I studied ~50hrs during the summer, then got extremely busy and could barely study at all. Took the test knowing I would fail... Band 7, not bad considering the minimal effort. I think if I study again and actually get through the curriculum & spend 200+hrs, I'll pass.

 

Guys!!!! What would be best prep material to study L2? I am an engineer and want to break into finance, investment management.

Any suggestion would be appreciated!!!

It's not about the money. It's about the game between people.
 
Ichan:

Guys!!!! What would be best prep material to study L2? I am an engineer and want to break into finance, investment management.

Any suggestion would be appreciated!!!

Best study material is Starbucks coffee, hard copies of the CFA books, and perhaps Schweser tests as a 2nd pass.

I studied about 50 hours for L1 but had to study 100-150 for L2. It is a fundamentally harder exam due to the vignette format and the fact that they can interact 3-4 concepts on you for each question. You need to know 75% of the material to pass L1 but more like 95% to get a 70% on L2.

 

@ IlliniProgrammer I'm a charterholder and I question whether you really studied under 150 hours for L2. I went 3/3 and studied significantly longer for Levels 2 and 3 than I did for 1. If you passed L2 with 100 hours of study, I applaud you - seriously.

To others on this forum in the program, this cat is far more the exception than the rule. Just learning the unique ways that CFAI wants you to do things can take up a ton of time. Then there's always the material that's substantially more challenging than anything you see on L1.

 
Ichan:

Guys!!!! What would be best prep material to study L2? I am an engineer and want to break into finance, investment management.

Any suggestion would be appreciated!!!

CFA won't help you to "break into finance" without prior experience so networking is still important. You may get lucky if you are a software engineer.
 

I was probably closer to 150 than 100.

IIRC my excel spreadsheet shows about 110 hrs of study but I excluded breaks in as small as 10 minute increments. I may have also forgotten to log some studying.

L2 is a fundamentally harder exam than L1. I'll say that. And candidates should plan to study 200-300 hours for it. But if you take a practice exam and find yourself getting 70%, you can start to scale back a bit. The goal is to get a comfortable margin over 70% on an average exam, not an 85% on a difficult exam. The only thing that matters coming out of the exam is Pass or Fail.

 
IlliniProgrammer:

I was probably closer to 150 than 100.

IIRC my excel spreadsheet shows about 110 hrs of study but I excluded breaks in as small as 10 minute increments. I may have also forgotten to log some studying.

L2 is a fundamentally harder exam than L1. I'll say that. And candidates should plan to study 200-300 hours for it. But if you take a practice exam and find yourself getting 70%, you can start to scale back a bit. The goal is to get a comfortable margin over 70% on an average exam, not an 85% on a difficult exam. The only thing that matters coming out of the exam is Pass or Fail.

Hi, did you consider mock exam solving as Study time?
 
riomma-bjj:
IlliniProgrammer:

I was probably closer to 150 than 100.

IIRC my excel spreadsheet shows about 110 hrs of study but I excluded breaks in as small as 10 minute increments. I may have also forgotten to log some studying.

L2 is a fundamentally harder exam than L1. I'll say that. And candidates should plan to study 200-300 hours for it. But if you take a practice exam and find yourself getting 70%, you can start to scale back a bit. The goal is to get a comfortable margin over 70% on an average exam, not an 85% on a difficult exam. The only thing that matters coming out of the exam is Pass or Fail.

Hi, did you consider mock exam solving as Study time?

Yes. But my accounting was pretty brutal and I did not count "stare out the window while my notes sit in front of me" or "research cool vacations when I'm supposed to be studying" as study time. I think I'm only about 70-80% efficient when it comes to converting time dedicated to study into actual study.

I was also doing an MFE at the time and got a boost on a lot of stuff in the Econ, Quant, and Financial Reporting sections.

There are things about the CFA Exam and the CFA Institute that make me question how much respect it really deserves. But I don't question it on the basis of the exams' difficulty. This is especially true for L2. Assuming pass rates for retakes are fairly evenly distributed, 60% of candidates like you who have just passed level 1 will fail level 2 on their first try.

 

Schweser notes for L1 - QBank is key. That and nail as many pay / practice papers as possible. Score >70% in these and you'll be fine in real thing. Read Ethics from CFA book nearer the exam.

Strength & Honour Lads pass exams
 

300h for L1, 350-400h for L2. You can get away with less, but why the hell would you scale back, when you've invested 1k on this. Go all the way. Better be overprepared than negatively surprised.

 
Gurifissu:

300h for L1, 350-400h for L2. You can get away with less, but why the hell would you scale back, when you've invested 1k on this. Go all the way. Better be overprepared than negatively surprised.

If your time is worth more than $10/hour, and if most people study at least 70 hours for it, the biggest cost is your time.

Candidates should study until they have a 95% chance of passing the exam on exam day. I conservatively aim for 95% chance of getting a 70%.

Start tracking your % correct on different sections. Then add up the binomial distributions and figure out your odds of getting a 70.

When it gets above 90-95%, start pulling back a little bit on the studying.

 
IlliniProgrammer:
Gurifissu:

300h for L1, 350-400h for L2. You can get away with less, but why the hell would you scale back, when you've invested 1k on this. Go all the way. Better be overprepared than negatively surprised.

If your time is worth more than $10/hour, and if most people study at least 70 hours for it, the biggest cost is your time.

Candidates should study until they have a 95% chance of passing the exam on exam day. I conservatively aim for 95% chance of getting a 70%.

Start tracking your % correct on different sections. Then add up the binomial distributions and figure out your odds of getting a 70.

When it gets above 90-95%, start pulling back a little bit on the studying.

Thanks for the advice, I'll measure my mock exam performanc and aim for 95%. I actually expect a maximum of 80% given the weird tendency of some questions to have more than one true good answers, etc.
 

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