OK, so there's this girl... Not just any girl... but THE girl. I'm talking the kind of girl who you would quit your job for and disown your family, if she asked... She is THAT fine.
I've never spoken to her, but to be honest, as long as she doesnt sound like a man, I don't care what she says.
We take the same train in the mornings.
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Nice! Don't forget humor is great. Remember always leave'm smiling.
Other useful lines: Hey, baby, do you want me to take off my shorts? If you ever had sex with a machine, that's what it's like with me. 'Cause I'm like a sex machine. I'm easy. Are you? (give the person a bottle of tequila) Drink this, then call me when you're ready. As you walk by, turn around and say: Excuse me, did you just touch my ass? No. Damn!
Before you speak to her determine whether or not she's actually interested in you. Because if she's not and you approach her anyway, chances are you'll get shot down pretty quickly no matter what you say. Anticipation is always hot, so take the time to build it. I know you're probably in a frenzy to hump as many women in as short a time as possible (you're a 20-something yr old guy yes?), but if you actually want this girl to say yes to coffee/date/sex I would suggest taking a few days to put yourself on her radar. And you see her everyday so there's no need to rush. Take a day or two and flirt shamelessly before asking her out.
And if this doesn't work, no worries. You'll always have tomorrow to use a cringe-worthy line.
There is no universal pick up line that works. Picking up a girl is more an art than a science. I wouldn't consider myself an authority, but I do OK.
If she is eye f**king the shit out of you, just walk up to her and ask if she is single, not if she has a boyfriend (the difference is huge). If she says yes, then say you want to take her out for coffee and ask for her email (not phone number) to set it up. She is less likely to refuse giving you her email.
If it is not so obvious, i.e. she is not staring at you, pay attention to her to see if you can spot anything that you can talk about or have in common. For example, does she read a particular newspaper or magazine, does she do the crossword. If she is doing the crossword and she is stuck on a clue, just blurt out the answer. Also, see if there is anything that you can say that sort of makes fun of her, but in a joking way, i.e weird shoes or roots in her hair. Chicks like to be teased the same way they did back in elementary school (although they will deny this to death).
Lastly, a classy girl can spot if you are just trying to sleep with her, so do try to seem interested in what she has to say.
Now I could be wrong about all this, but I wish you the best of luck anyway.
This will be the toughest part.
Thanks. Remember, we are on a train/platform... I need subtle.
I completely agree with ab123, hes on point I Read "the Game" a couple years ago and eventhough its doesnt outline a complete step by step recipe for how to approach girls it kind of opens your mind up to the art of picking up and plus its a good read
Just make some fucking small talk. Make an observation. If she's wearing a nice pair of shoes, say something like "killer shoes."
This shit isn't that hard, homie.
Just talk to her. If you need an easy opening, "forget" to wear a watch one day and ask her if she has the time. Then just chat. You don't want to be the pick up line guy.
I agree with almost all ab123’s advice, except I would never recommend making fun of a girl for roots in her hair. This will make you look like an asshole and either make her pissed off or self-conscious. Regrowth is not a good thing, so girls will not find it endearing of you to point it out.
If you think she’s into you, be direct and ask her if she’s single and if she’d be interested in coffee/lunch. If you aren’t sure if she’s interested, try find some way to start up a convo w/ her without appearing too creepy. For example, if you’re sitting close to her on the train, drop something like a pen so she has to pick it up for you, then thank her, ask her what she’s reading, and so on. Or you can bump into her while you’re waiting on the platform, apologize, then say something to the effect of “I’ve noticed you on this line a couple times - do you work near (name of district, intersection, etc.).” (don’t ask her where she lives…should be obvious, but just making sure).
Once you start talking to her it is generally pretty obvious whether or not she’s into you. If she is animated, making eye contact and contributing to the conversation, then ask her out. If she gives you one word answers and looks off into the distance, I personally wouldn’t recommend asking for a date… you would continue to see her during your daily commute and it would be awkward for both of you if she rejects you. If she’s giving you mixed signals, don’t ask her out this time but try talk to her again the next time you see her and see if she warms up.
I always find that it is less awkward when guys attempt to start conversations in this indirect manner, even if it is quite obvious that they are orchestrated. That way if I am not interested I don’t have to blatantly reject them (I personally believe that it is equally difficult for women to decline a date as it is for men to suggest one). However, if I am somewhat interested in them, I love it when they have the balls to ask for the date right away.
Final piece of advice: Act confident. If she’s as hot as you say, then chances are she is used to being hit on. If you act like you regularly date girls of her caliber, then she’s more likely to consider you worth her while.
Hope this helps – good luck!
you make some good points except the "you'll make her feel self-conscious." i'm not surprised that you'd say that, you're female after all, i don't mean that negatively.
but to be honest, making a girl feel self conscious without actually offending her is one of the best things you can do. women don't respect men who are nice to them/worship them. ever think about why you know/see so many women with dbags?
i've heard that a lot of women "grow up" eventually and come to their senses, but im only 22 so what do i know
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EE - My regrowth tip stems from personal experience...a while ago my friends and I were helping my roommate judge how much the girl on her fake looked like her and a random guy standing next to us asked if he could compare (presumably to strike up a convo). He told her that he thought she could use the girl’s id b/c all their stats were the same and they both had roots. She was visibly offended, and all my friends and I immediately told him he was a jerk. Needless to say he struck out and this incident is still brought up (remember when that a-hole told your roommate she had roots?). Insulting a girl’s physical appearance and upkeep within the first five minutes of a conversation is generally a deal breaker, no matter how attractive you are (the guy in this anecdote was actually quite good looking).
However, you are absolutely right that most girls prefer dbags over guys that fawn over them. It all goes back to wanting something that you can’t have. Thought process: when a guy does not outwardly try to win your approval, you immediately wonder why he isn’t interested in you. For self validation you want to try and see if you can get him to like you, so you go out of your way to get to know him and try to impress him. If he continues to act indifferent (or even more intriguingly is hot/cold) you are hooked – you have to prove that you can make him like you. By acting like he is out of your league he makes himself appear like a good catch. When a guy worships you it not only takes the challenge out of it, but it also makes you think that you can do better; if he is so grateful to be with you, why should you be with him? I feel horrible saying that nice guys finish last, but in reality sometimes they do (to all you nice guys that are reading this, please don’t put too much stake in my opinion – I’m only 20 and at times terribly cynical). I’m sure that plenty of women go for nice guys and it is probably true that girls grow out of their insecurities and start dating guys that actually treat them well.
Complimenting a woman's shoes is the gayest/worst come on I've ever heard of. EVER. That'll never work. Think about that. She'll think your a freak....and you might just be, but I digress.
If you see her on the platform next time, make sure you don't have you watch on and ask her what time it is. Make a humourous hint about the train being late/on-time...whatever.
Then, out of nowhere, bring out that one frighteningly obscure japanese subway stat (ER....something humourous WAY out of left field), tell them you read it the other day, and say, jesus, I'm such a nerd....something self-depricating, but humourous. Parlay that into a miniconversation, and see where it goes.
The way to any good woman's heart is humour. A joke where you're the punchline also shows your confident. A stat about another nation's subway might mean your well-travelled or worldly. Saying your read it somewhere might mean you actually don't stroke the chicken every night or party like your 16. That's 4 of the top most attractive things to chicks.
Joking about their roots ain't going to get you anywhere, dood. Imagine anyone came up to you and said I like your haircut. Then imagine someone said something negative about your hair. Wow, what a moronic idea.
Even if you totally sellout your testes and don't ask for a number, she'll be the first one to strike up a conversation with you the next time you spot her.
"Hey, you're the guy that told me that 88% of midgets in Tokyo ride the subway on stilts cuz it's so packed".
Also, if you get this far, email usage is totally a secondary ploy. It shows a lack of maturity. Confidence in everything you say/do is key. Ask for her number (don't ask more than once). In this case, if you see her often, give her yours card if she says no. Hell, she can't EVER look you in the eye again without thinking, I didn't take that dude up on the offer (if she says no).
I expect a bottle of wine in the mail when you bag her.
I always find these threads about hitting on girls amusing. Anyway...
I agree. If you complimented me on my shoes it'd make me think you were gay.
rwo88, great insight. it's nice to hear from the female side of the equation. most of my tips come from trial and error; it's all about continuous learning. what you say sort of validates some of my conclusions though. can you comment on asking for email vs. number.
i've never actually used the root comment so thanks for the heads up. one of my favourites though is if a girl clearly has a funky coloured bra that is very visible and doesn't match the outfit, it is just too easy to use to start a convo. it's fun being an a-hole.
number > email
Be sure to say they are fabulous shoes.
I'd suggest you just walk up to her and tell her what firm you work at. Then tell her what your bonus was. It's failsafe.
Either you sling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot
i said make fun of her shoes if they are weird, not compliment her for them. i agree, complimenting her for her shoes would sound gay.
Her shoes are not interesting. They're the same as everyone else's. This guy doesn't want to rail her cuz she wears funky shoes or has a pony tail. She doesn't if she's a regular. If that was the case, he would've approached her already. She's a gem in a sea of millions....probably well dressed....probably in a Clinton-ish pantsuit...hahah.. Am I right or wrong?
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I kind of agree with LizzieJane's approach. First of all, I hate the use of pick-up lines. They seem so unnatural. Not to mention that later when you're trying to replay the conversation to gauge to yourself how it went, you'll just get embarassed thinking about your stupid pick-up line and how she laughed at you for it.
Meeting girls in random places like subways is incredibly difficult. Especially in NY, where the subway is already a shady place with crazy looking people. It's no surprise that girls usually wear humongous ski-goggle sunglasses and stick the iPod on full blast so they don't have to deal with it. If you see this girl every morning, I'd take it slow. Establish eye contact (but don't stare) and shoot her a smile one morning. If she smiles back, the next morning say "hello." After a week, she'll recognize you as a morning regular and as long as you're not staring at her and creeping her out, she'll probably feel comfortable enough with you to talk about something...anything, as long as its natural and not a cheesy pick-up line. Hell, if she's feeling nice when you say hello, you may even have a conversation, god forbid. Not about her shoes - ask her where she works, if it's close by to your office mention a great restaurant you ate at the other day. I mean, it's not rocket science. Girls are people, too. They're just like your friends only they look better, smell better, and shower more often.
GameTheory knows.
Talk to him.
-If you plan to go with the ahole route, I agree with everyone else - comment on clothing, not part of her body. Commenting on a pair of shoes makes you seen not knowledgeable about fashion, which can be cute.. rwo88 is on the dot about the girl's thought process, although personally I'm not a big fan of teasing. Besides, you might just piss her off if you happen to do it on a bad day.
-You don't wanna be the pick-up line guy, and you don't wanna be the gay best friend either.
-Numbers > e-mail. E-mails are less personal, but are annnnoooying to give out. I guard my e-mail a lot more loosely than number, but I also dislike correcting you when you thought I said "dot" instead of "dash."
-Try figure out which industry she's in from her outfits. How conservative are they? i.e. Visible prints and shiny fabrics (not counting tops under suit jackets) is a dead giveaway that she's uh.. probably not a (oh no) banker chick. (Based on the other posts here, I'm going to assume that you'd like to avoid them like plague)
-Asking for time works. Some guy did that a couple days ago and said his phone didn't have time when there's no signal. If I wasn't falling asleep, I would have responded without my iPod headphones still in my ears..I guess you're out of luck if she's not a morning person.
-LizzieJane is not mean. (Unless I'm mean as well.)
Report back to us.
And also, unless your conversation is magical the first time, I wouldn't ask for her number. Honestly, best approach in my opinion is talk to her a little every morning until the weekend, then ask her what her plans are. If she says she's not sure, then bring up that birthday party you were going to and tell her to invite her friends if she wanted. Then get her number so you can text her the details - at least now you have a reason.
On a random side note: Meeting random girls in subways is not really my style (I think you have to be really fuckin' good - and not to mention good looking, to pull it off). The best way to meet girls - friends of your girl friends.
Ask her if she likes to go out with tools. If the answer is yes, then your in--just use your natural game! If she says no, then better luck next time, or ask if she has a sister, cousin, niece, mom, etc.
If she doesn't respond well to the move you make, imply that she has a sort of deficiency for not giving in to your pick-up attempts.
To stress the validity of your tactics, inform her that your actions were a practical application of advice garnered from an online message board.
...just wanted to let you know that I fucked your little dream girl last night.
Straight blew her back out.
This reminds me of a situation in college... a friend of mine thought himself quite the ladies' man, he didn't do too badly and he had the usual checklist- tall, confident, good looking, money etc. Anyway he met the one "perfect" girl and he decided this one was different and took her out to dinner, etc. etc. Couple of dates later, he was getting no where and was pretty frustrated but was fine with it because she was "the one", perfect girl and all that.
We were sitting around one day and my friend brings up this girl, talks about how he may love her, how awesome she is and another guy goes "oh her? yeah i bang the shit out of her two or three times a week. Two nights ago, she called me drunk and horny and I told her that she could only come over if she gave me head so she came over, did her thing, then I told her she had to go home because I had to get up early."
My friend went pale, the rest of us were laughing for about 30 min. straight.
Bottom line, never idolize any one girl that you don't really know.
Ha! That must have been absolutely soul crushing for that guy. I actually feel a bit sorry for him. Imagine what he is going to think next time he meets "that perfect girl".
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idealize is a better word. i.e. the end result of ideating.
Tell her you recognize her from somewhere and ask if she was in your english class (or something similar). When she says, nope, sorry, I went to "XYZ" school, you're in. Just got to keep the conversation flowing from that point. I think that's much better than asking the time because with the time question you have to make a conversation off of "It's 8:30" or "No, sorry." And let's be honest, when you're on the train to work in the morning, how the hell do you not know what time it is, and does it really matter?
Friend of mine did this while in college. He was downtown Chicago and randomly approached this really hot lady and said, "Jenny? From XYZ high school? Its me Chris!" She politely said that he had the wrong girl. He apologized and created small talk. I kid you not, he was back at the hotel with her an hour later.
Crazy how some shit just works. And my friend looks like a hobbit, soooo...
When I see a pretty girl. walking down the street, I think of two things. One Part of me wants to take her out and talk to her, be real sweet to her.
The other part wants to know what her head would look like on a stick.
I feel almost as if... the more technologically advanced our society has become...the less people skills are utilized, resulting in an accumulation of social awkwardness for an incredible amount of Americans.
If that were true (i.e. our social awkwardness is because of tech), then why the hell are the Irish, the Scots...hell anyone.....much more socially vibrant than Americans?
I think a lot of it has to do with thinking our shit don't stink, and I don't think that has anything to do with technology.
You want to see a cold society, go to Poland. Cripes. I think they all think they poo potpurry.
Geez... I can't beleive this is an actual question. But as a banker you should already have /developing the skillset to talk to women (or people in general).
If you have a tolerable personality and decent looks, most girls you should date (big difference between would and should), are layups.
Agree with GameTheory. Picking up girls at the subway or street is tough. Girls (and guys) are more concerned about getting home / work than actually striking up a conversation so they all put a shield. You would probably have better luck at Starbucks.
Above poster, picking up chicks isnt difficult, but I'm stumped for ideas on the subway without coming across as a creep...
Should I just fold?
This is why you'll never get her.
ask for her opinion on something.
Agreed. Ask her what her opinion is regarding the best way to pick up hot chicks on subways.
Tell her you got a message board going on about it right now.....see how fast she'll snuggle up to you (with a can of pepper spray in one hand).
Invite her to the pants party.
hit her with your fists
newbie- you better be back on here in a week telling everyone how you took her down right there on the subway
for the guy who spelled it "humour" do chicks dig bad teeth too?
England... where bad teeth meet bad food.
it's the canadian/british way of spelling it asshole
I haven't seen her since posting that question... Weird.
I hate it when you make eye contact with a blazing girl and you get too nervous to strike up a convo and you say to yourself wow if i ever see that girl again theres def. going to be some chat... but you never see her again. Now im making it a goal for myself to hit on any girl i make eye contact with on the street/ subway/ etc... hard but neccessary.
That's a bit much, don't you think? Pretty soon you'll be that creepy guy no one will look at.
As long as I think he's harmless (see mark klein's #2) I smile back and don't think anything of it. I do, however, instantaneously assess his attractiveness.
And please try not to get overexcited if she smiles back. It doesn't always mean "come hither," it's usually just friendliness. I know many of us have forgotten that long lost art but I swear a few people still practice it.
Hard but necessary is the slogan for my johnson.
Either you sling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot
Maybe she's a WSO regular and decided she better start taking another subway line to work.
Seriously good looking girls dont do banking...
thanks for pointing out the obvious about the history of spelling. if it wasn't clear to you, then i was clearly pointing out that because you spelled it canadian/british then you probably have bad teeth so i was asking if girls like that about you. do they like how intuitive you are too?
x35109, I don't think anyone on WSO thought a cretin like you capable of such razor-sharp wit and repartee...will you please, please accept our deepest apologies?
my comment was directed at the instigator of the name calling. i was simply making light of poor dental practices in another location. relax. don't be so self important, not ever comment is directed at you.
wow are you implying that rosie o'donnell can't drive too? i'm sorry my intuition didn't pick up your dumbass logic
Very poorly executed.
This topic keeps getting better and better.
Canadians don't have bad teeth, nubnutz!!! Keep us literate folk with nice teeth out of it.
Thanks.
Joe Canuck.
This is an amazing thread.
Girls, is it strange if a random guy smiles at you on your commute, etc? What thoughts run through your mind?
Here are the thoughts that will run through her mind: 1. Oh god, look at this faggot. 2. Why is he just standing there and smiling at me? Is it because he is too big a pussy to say hi? Or is it because he is contemplating the best way to boil my brains after he follows me into an alley, chops me into bits, and takes my decapitated head to his sex dungeon? 3. Great, I just looked back in his direction and he tried to smile at me again. I saw you the first time, guy.
4. Finally, my stop.
5. Oh shit, he's following me. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. I hope he hasn't developed an immunity to mace, because that's all I have going for me.
Also, to the original poster: you are a virgin and will be forever.
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I was...
Until I met your mother...
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