7/23/12

Dippin. Baseball players have been doing it on the job for years. I know some (maybe even the majority) of us use tobacco products. My question today is: How acceptable is it to chew tobacco in the office. I'm not saying in the middle of a meeting, obviously be respectful with it. But working on your computer for a few hours and having a fat chew... acceptable or a mistake?

What are your thoughts about tobacco users in the office? hurt them at all (other than their health)?

Or is there like some sort of unwritten rule on hierarchy? The older you are, the more you can prance around chewin and smokin fat cigars?

A noob in the industry looking for a little insight on the aquired rules by a vet of the office.

Comments (52)

7/23/12

Personally I'd consider it disgusting. If you want tobacco, go outside and smoke like everyone else.

Financial Modeling

7/23/12

Seeing as how you have to spit, it'd probably be a bad idea. Snus on the other hand, maybe, but with discretion of course.

7/23/12

People do it at my office. If you're going to do it, be low key about it. Don't advertise that you're dipping. You may even want to keep it to a late night activity for once the MDs have gone home. Not a huge deal if you don't make it one.

7/23/12

hahahaha thanks for the laugh.

7/23/12

i'll snus all day, and dip when its really slow or the office is empty

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

7/23/12

spit in a bottle and keep it out of sight

7/23/12
rjr16:

spit in a bottle and keep it out of sight

bottle is clear...coffee cup with paper towels

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

7/23/12

bottle is clear...coffee cup with paper towels

Good point

7/23/12

There is a dippin monkeys group started by yours truly. There are ~40 of us if I recall correctly.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

7/23/12

I know a guy who has to use snus for his addiction in the office, keeps 2-3 in at a time and you can't notice a thing.

7/23/12

The key to getting a way is to pack it on the side of your mouth if you want a real humdinger. The coffee cup is good or just get a mud jug

http://www.mudjug.com/

Eventus stultorum magister.

7/23/12

Spitless tobacco and there will be no problems. It's half as strong but that may or may not even be an issue for you

GBS

7/23/12

But in all seriousness. Try to keep your smoking outside of the office or during your lunch break. Patch during the day smoke at night or something. You never know which manager / boss lost a loved one to lung cancer. You never know which HR person might red flag your health habits or which co-worker will gossip about you getting up to go on a smoke break.

7/23/12

As a fellow dipper, I believe dipping is more acceptable than cigarettes solely that I do not have to quit working and go outside when I feel the urge to dip. Smoking cigarettes also comes with the smell that travels into the office. I feel at my office that dipping, if done discretely is much more acceptable.

7/23/12

eew

Financial Modeling

7/23/12

Thanks for the responses. I just got some camel frost to hold me through the day, easily guttable.

Does anyone have a personal story of how a co-worker was lessened/demoted by his nicotine addiction? Or maybe this addiction help him bond with the king monkey?

7/23/12

Outside please

"If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door."

7/23/12

I don't give a fuck about the guy next to me if he doesn't like to see me snus or dip. Slip one in and start working. I take it as a prerogative, you're not paid to ogle other guys at work.

CNBC sucks

"This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up

7/23/12

Working9-5

Gave you a SB for your signature. If I had more I'd give you another for "getting blown up." Amazing expression that needs to catch on.

7/23/12

most guys who do dip do it at night after the senior guys hve left.

7/23/12

kidflash:

most guys who do dip do it at night after the senior guys hve left.

Agree with this. Also varies based on firm culture.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."

7/23/12

I've seen it done during the day on trading floors. In banking I'd keep it to when VPs and above aren't around, possibly associates too if they seem to be pretty straight laced. Completely depends on the culture though. I'd look into snus if you really need nicotine. You can pack a snus lip and carry a conversation and no one will ever notice, theres no spitting

7/23/12

That can only be tolerated in Texas. Refer to this thread: "Best place to buy a house in Houston?"

"One good thing about Texas is that the women are usually very easy if you are from anywhere else (and especially foreign) and they love to be sluts when traveling to Miami or anywhere abroad behind their boring uncultured Texan husband/boyfriend's back. How could you blame them after all for wanting to experience once in a life time something better than a man who plays beer pong, dips tobacco, wears baggy shorts and sandals in 50 degrees weather, and whose idea of romantic get away weekend is tubing on the river in Austin with a koozie in his hand? These women are great fun because you hit 'em and you quit 'em. "

Or better put, to quote the song of a famous Texan: "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away and know when to run."

7/23/12

OnlyGWBushesAndHicksComeFromTexas:

That can only be tolerated in Texas. Refer to this thread: "Best place to buy a house in Houston?"

"One good thing about Texas is that the women are usually very easy if you are from anywhere else (and especially foreign) and they love to be sluts when traveling to Miami or anywhere abroad behind their boring uncultured Texan husband/boyfriend's back. How could you blame them after all for wanting to experience once in a life time something better than a man who plays beer pong, dips tobacco, wears baggy shorts and sandals in 50 degrees weather, and whose idea of romantic get away weekend is tubing on the river in Austin with a koozie in his hand? These women are great fun because you hit 'em and you quit 'em. "

Or better put, to quote the song of a famous Texan: "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away and know when to run."

Sounds like the words of a very jealous boy. Don't worry, son, once all of the good girls are taken, the last one at the bar might settle for you.

7/23/12

Have seen everyone from MDs to analysts do it during daytime hours. Maybe it depends on group culture.

7/23/12

I usually snus (not dip) when im running low on sleep. keeps you from getting tense.

"The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter"

7/23/12

OutsideMan:

I usually snus (not dip) when im running low on sleep. keeps you from getting tense.

Does mostly everyone gut snus? I still spit that stuff, I must be soft.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..

7/23/12

Cruncharoo:

OutsideMan:

I usually snus (not dip) when im running low on sleep. keeps you from getting tense.

Does mostly everyone gut snus? I still spit that stuff, I must be soft.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD0qz-KSQOI
7/23/12

Use snus and no one will ever know.

Use long cut after hours.

Smoke cigs on lunch.

Profit.

7/23/12

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BobTheBaker:
do you even facts bro?
7/23/12

Nothing to add here except keep your spit cup away from your monitor. My VP at internship used to dip all the time and he would keep his cup next to his monitor. As a result the corner of the monitor had nasty splatter marks on it. Not a good look.

7/23/12

dipping is fairly common on the trading desk where i work...i wouldn't say its encouraged, but several do it regularly. defer to ur ownfirms' culture.

7/23/12

I would be shocked to see this. It is unprofessional.

Go East, Young Man

7/23/12

This is so disgusting.... Don't do it. Just go outside to smoke.

7/23/12

Asatar:

This is so disgusting.... Don't do it. Just go outside to smoke.

Agree it is nasty, particularly if you have a fucking cup filled with that shit. But, I'd rather someone do that than smoke because:

1) They are at their desk, doing their fucking job

2) They don't make the room or my suits smell like shit

Nothing is worse than getting in an elevator after a smokers group.

7/23/12

peinvestor2012:

Asatar:

This is so disgusting.... Don't do it. Just go outside to smoke.

Agree it is nasty, particularly if you have a fucking cup filled with that shit. But, I'd rather someone do that than smoke because:

1) They are at their desk, doing their fucking job

2) They don't make the room or my suits smell like shit

Nothing is worse than getting in an elevator after a smokers group.

This. I bet if you tallied up a regular smokers "smoke breaks" over the course of a year, it would accumulate to quite an absurd quantity of wasted time

7/23/12

Back in the 80's, people were smoking cigs in the office, and not just on break. I mean, doctors and nurses were smoking in hospitals.

Times have changed.

"I like money (as do most females) but love is...great :)"-student quote
Winners bring a bigger bag than you do

7/23/12

BatMasterson:

Back in the 80's, people were smoking cigs in the office, and not just on break. I mean, doctors and nurses were smoking in hospitals.

Times have changed.

True. But, if the laws are going to change and people don't have the mental will to quit the habit, why are they employed with you? There is plenty of talent, particularly at the lower levels, that will be working at the desk for the day.

7/23/12

It's snus for god sake. Unprofessional, in what way?

Chewing tobacco sounds so...South America. Take a snus and relax.

7/23/12

Yeah, there's a pretty big difference betwen snus and dip. I snus often but actually think dip is pretty disgusting.

People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use.

7/23/12

Kejsaren:

It's snus for god sake. Unprofessional, in what way?

Chewing tobacco sounds so...South America. Take a snus and relax.

?south america? ?QUE?

At least in my corner of South America, chewing tobacco in the office would definitely be frowned at. Sounds more like southern US to me.

7/23/12

greengohome:

Kejsaren:

It's snus for god sake. Unprofessional, in what way?

Chewing tobacco sounds so...South America. Take a snus and relax.

?south america? ?QUE?

At least in my corner of South America, chewing tobacco in the office would definitely be frowned at. Sounds more like southern US to me.

That's probably what he meant. He just has the typical gringo small penis syndrome mentality America = USA.

Only low class USatians chew tobacco.

7/23/12

OnlyGWBushesAndHicksComeFromTexas:

That's probably what he meant. He just has the typical gringo small penis syndrome mentality America = USA.

Only low class USatians chew tobacco.

What a nice and friendly reply.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America

7/23/12

Kejsaren:

It's snus for god sake. Unprofessional, in what way?

Chewing tobacco sounds so...South America. Take a snus and relax.

I hope you meant South "USA". I don't think in Argentina they even know what dipping is.

7/23/12

What kind of stupid fuck refers to the South as "South America"? You'd be looked at as a crazy person if you dipped in LatAm.

And please, chewing is not the same as dipping.

7/23/12

prospie:

What kind of stupid fuck refers to the South as "South America"? You'd be looked at as a crazy person if you dipped in LatAm.

And please, chewing is not the same as dipping.

The sames who spell the country of Colombia like the university and who think that Spanish is the language of Brazil.

7/23/12

No idea what you idiots are arguing about but yes, I've found dipping to be far more prevalent in the workplace than I would have once thought--especially after hours. Almost every male on our trading desk keeps a snus on hand, and once things settle down around 4:30, you'll see cope straight and griz mint cans begin to emerge. The partner I worked under at my VC internship had a fierce dipping habit as well (came in with one every day at 7:30 am, had one in for the entirety of every meeting). If you're working in the US and have never spotted someone with a lip in, you're simply unobservant.

7/23/12

I'm doing it now. Put it in the back of your mouth and use an opaque bottle or coffee cup with a lid. No one knows. Snus is good for meetings.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

7/23/12

Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker.

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