Co-worker talking shit over bloomberg about me.

So if you found out your coworker was talking shit about you over Bloomberg to other employees in the company in other offices, what would you do? I printed the messages while I am considering what to do, if anything. For the record they're not saying that I'm doing a bad job, more along the lines of personal attacks about my looks and personality. I logged as them a few days ago, with their permission and there were all sorts of messages to coworkers in other offices about me.

1) Confront them privately
2) Confront them in front of your department (embarrass them)
3) Report to manager
4) Report to HR
5) Do Nothing
6) Something else?

For the record the person in question is not my superior, doesn't make the firm any money, and has tried to throw me under the bus several times. He is definitely threatened by me as I am crushing him on the numbers, and dude literally can't open an account or make a trade. I am killing it putting up gross YTD. The only reason I care is because he is talking shit about me to other office locations....I don't want a bad rep in offices I have never even been to. Just not cool to know that sales people and traders have a negative first impression of me that I have literally never spoken to.

Otherwise I literally don't care what this guy thinks about me.

Just not trying to get a bad reputation based on a jealous coworker's personal ideas about me.

I'm leaning toward option 1 or 2...but then again I'm not sure how much I care or if I am over-reacting....what would you do?

Comments (49)

Aug 24, 2012

Confront him directly and ask him wtf is going on.

If he doesn't stop, take him to a dark alley and break his face.

Aug 24, 2012

confront and ask why he is doing so? also with diplomacy and tact, indirectly hint him that you are considering reporting him to the HR

Aug 24, 2012

Plan your revenge to the very last detail making sure he never sees a trading desk again. Every battle is won before it is fought.

Aug 24, 2012
BTbanker:

Plan your revenge to the very last detail making sure he never sees a trading desk again. Every battle is won before it is fought.

Sun Tzu?

Aug 24, 2012

Walk into the office, reach back like a pimp, and slap that hoe. Be a man

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Aug 24, 2012

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Aug 24, 2012

Don't say a word to him about it just walk up to him on Monday and punch him in the fucking teeth. Walk away and pretend like it never happened. You guys are even and he gets the message.

Aug 25, 2012

I know nothing about Bloomberg, so... who exactly can see stuff that gets posted or whatever on it? Anyone in your firm? Anyone with a Bloomberg? Just the people he sends a message to or something?

Regardless, best solution is confront him directly and ask what his beef is with you. If you can't settle it like men, you've accomplished your responsibilities as a man to try and resolve an argument and shouldn't feel bad about going to your/his superior and/or HR about it if it really is bad stuff being talked about that could damage your career.

Aug 25, 2012
BlackHat:

I know nothing about Bloomberg, so... who exactly can see stuff that gets posted or whatever on it? Anyone in your firm? Anyone with a Bloomberg? Just the people he sends a message to or something?

Anyone with Bloomberg.

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Aug 25, 2012
Commuter:
BlackHat:

I know nothing about Bloomberg, so... who exactly can see stuff that gets posted or whatever on it? Anyone in your firm? Anyone with a Bloomberg? Just the people he sends a message to or something?

Anyone with Bloomberg.

Different chatrooms. Able to set up a conversation with people you deal with (clients, other traders, software providers, algo providers, etc.)

Disincentivy:

1-Rattle the basket: Wear your nice face and be nice to him for a couple of days while you drop "hints" about what's going on.
2- Insert fear in his heart: Casually mention how other people in other offices have been talking about the guy who has been talking about you. Say you're determined to fuck that person up once you find out who it is.
3-Let it simmer:Ignore him for a couple of days and watch him try to suck up to you

Those tips are complete shit, unless you're a girl in PR.

To OP: Grow a pair, you're pulling in more than him. No way your boss is going to pick the sick horse (him) over the young stallion (you) IF you're making it rain. Everyone, that matters, can pull out numbers regarding PnL and rip him a new one if he keeps up.

tl;dr: Dis' tips are shit and OP needs to inform HR/boss. Just give him a quick heads-up you're on to him, and so is HR and xyz MD.

Aug 25, 2012

This will be the best thing that ever happened to your career if you play your cards right. You need to publicly humiliate this little fucker. Everybody knows this guy isn't putting up numbers and he's talking shit? This makes for the easiest target of all. Your bosses won't give a fuck if you're stomping on the balls of a low producer. Your co-workers probably think the guy's a douche and they also probably know that this guy talks shit about almost everyone (not just you), so they will be laughing their asses off when you nuke him.

I would just start smacking him around about what a douche he is, how shitty his numbers are, his ugly girlfriend, his sweater-vest, and the like. Only bring up the stuff you're asking about here (his shit talking) as a side note while you're dropping the hammer on him in front of the office.

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Aug 25, 2012
SirTradesaLot:

This will be the best thing that ever happened to your career if you play your cards right. You need to publicly humiliate this little fucker. Everybody knows this guy isn't putting up numbers and he's talking shit? This makes for the easiest target of all. Your bosses won't give a fuck if you're stomping on the balls of a low producer. Your co-workers probably think the guy's a douche and they also probably know that this guy talks shit about almost everyone (not just you), so they will be laughing their asses off when you nuke him.

I would just start smacking him around about what a douche he is, how shitty his numbers are, his ugly girlfriend, his sweater-vest, and the like. Only bring up the stuff you're asking about here (his shit talking) as a side note while you're dropping the hammer on him in front of the office.

Definitely "nuke" him. Perfect word. I'm sure you've read Liar's Poker. If not, read it and take notes about the "Opportunist." Good luck.

Aug 25, 2012

Confront him. I think the chats are stored for a number of years for compliance.

Aug 25, 2012

Talks shit about your looks and personality?

Option 7: Stop being ugly and be nicer. But then go ahead and slap the shit out of that little bitch anyway. Use your strong hand.

Nov 18, 2013

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Aug 25, 2012

Terrible

Aug 25, 2012

Call. The. CEO.

"Every man should lose a battle in his youth, so he does not lose a war when he is old"

Aug 25, 2012

I agree with Richard. I would first make sure you document dates, times along with what was said to whom. This way even if the co-workers who alerted you as to what this a$$hole is saying about you decline to back you up you have your shit in order (can't blame them some organizations HR departments love to shift blame and nobody wants to be caught in the crossfire). Once your records are in order you should then I would alert HR assuming you have one and one thats supportive. If you feel that support is not there or moving against you go directly to the CEO in writing. Forget about production this type of thing should not be happening in the workplace and if it is the people involved should be terminated and that is why you document it because if all else fails sue the c*ck sucker. While I would love to say beat the living $hit out of this person that would temporarily hurt him and would derail your career. Even if this last line is the only line you read DO NOT TOLERATE THAT $HIT. People such as the one you mentioned destroy productivity within a workplace and you my man have a business to run.

-Gorilla A.

"I've forgotten who I had lunch with earlier, and even more important, where."
-- Bret Easton Ellis, American Psycho

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Aug 25, 2012

mma fight

Aug 25, 2012

this is a tough situation. i dont have any great advice here. only thing i would say is do something and not nothing. having this be prolonged just makes things worse and worse. i dont think confronting him privately is gonna have much effect, guy sounds like a slimeball and these characters are not exactly runnin on integrity and reason.

Aug 25, 2012

1-Rattle the basket: Wear your nice face and be nice to him for a couple of days while you drop "hints" about what's going on.
2- Insert fear in his heart: Casually mention how other people in other offices have been talking about the guy who has been talking about you. Say you're determined to fuck that person up once you find out who it is.
3-Let it simmer:Ignore him for a couple of days and watch him try to suck up to you
4-Phase one of attack: Confront him about what you know and show him you have proof
5-wait for reaction: You either
a- Mention it to your boss right away and tell them you are on your way to HR right now and just wanted to give them a heads up in case you need their support
b-wait for him to apologize then again mention the whole thing to your boss, in case going forward you need their support
6-Expand your territory: Now you've got something on this little fucker so you have automatic dominance.
7-Build relationships: With the people he'd talked shit to.

When all else fails, call me. I will sort it out for you.

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Aug 25, 2012

Haha. I love this place. Thanks for the ideas and comments.

Here's a little more background information:

When the rest of the office goes out, I'm there he's not. Dude's super fugly (legit looks like Clay Aiken lol), while I'm all-american good looking. Everyone I work with likes to hangout with me/calls me to do shit on weekends, and this douche is never invited. It's pretty much a classic case of jealousy....I just don't like the fact that if I ever sell an agency or gov't security, the traders have a preconceived notion about me. No idea why he is talking shit, I've been pretty nice to him and helped him get a few trades done by pointing out some bonds his clients would buy and did a bunch of trades with his clients under his rep code when he was out so he would get the sales credit; even went to a client meeting with him to back him bc I know alot more about Munis ... then one day he started being a total asshole to me. It's some serious pussy shit. I dunno if he's worried about getting fired because I'm outshining him or what...I'm a total team player and am always down to help the other people on my desk.

Anyway, if anyone has anything else to add...please do. I'm going to think about it over the weekend. I'm leaning towards confrontation, and probably reporting it. Quite honestly, I would laugh my ass off if he got fired. He said some pretty offensive and untrue shit about me.

I'm wondering if other people have seen performance envy go this far...I put up 10m in gross commish up on Friday; He put up another fucking goose-egg (second time this week). He does not pickup the phone or do anything, just sits there and plays fruit ninja on his iphone. Weird thing is....my boss actually LIKES him.

Aug 25, 2012
DontSleep:

For the record they're not saying that I'm doing a bad job, more along the lines of personal attacks about my looks and personality.

C'mon, are we still in high school? personal attacks mean nothing. I would rather ignore it. Or remember kid, the opposite of love is surely not hate but indifference. If I were you, I'd be happy with every minute the attention I'm getting from them.
What kind of people receive a lot of attacks? Recognized ones!

--Money can't buy happiness. it can only buy orgasms.
--Who the hell says I want happiness? Orgasms all I need.

Aug 27, 2012

whatever you do, make sure to still go to HR. Once he has a record in HR, it'd make his life a lot more difficult finding another job.

Aug 27, 2012
fifteen:

Once he has a record in HR, it'd make his life a lot more difficult finding another job.

False

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Sep 4, 2012
fifteen:

whatever you do, make sure to still go to HR. Once he has a record in HR, it'd make his life a lot more difficult finding another job.

No need to screw a guy's career. That's too far. His standing in the firm, current job, fine. Whole career, unnecessary and vindictive.

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Sep 29, 2012
Oreos:
fifteen:

whatever you do, make sure to still go to HR. Once he has a record in HR, it'd make his life a lot more difficult finding another job.

No need to screw a guy's career. That's too far. His standing in the firm, current job, fine. Whole career, unnecessary and vindictive.

Agreed.

There's no reason to screw his career. The current job... fine but let him move on.

Born in hell, forged from suffering, hardened by pain.

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Aug 27, 2012

Ugh, I hate the Bloomberg messaging system for reasons like this. Can't you get his account suspended through Bloomberg for using the platform as an airing grounds for his personal 'vendetta' against you?

I only use it for academic purposes, but I still seem to receive a lot of messages, so my question is pure curiosity

Aug 28, 2012
Im not very creative:

Ugh, I hate the Bloomberg messaging system for reasons like this. Can't you get his account suspended through Bloomberg for using the platform as an airing grounds for his personal 'vendetta' against you?

I only use it for academic purposes, but I still seem to receive a lot of messages, so my question is pure curiosity

No I don't think so - If it's possible I have never heard of it happening.

Although if his BB got suspended, he would def get fired, because we all need it to do business. 95% of my time is spent on BB, BondDesk and IPREO.

Aug 27, 2012

haul his a$$ to court for slanderin...once he has a criminal record THEN it'd make his life a lot more difficult findin another gig

Aug 28, 2012
Going Concern:

haul his a$$ to court for slanderin...once he has a criminal record THEN it'd make his life a lot more difficult findin another gig

Slander in this instance would result in a civil suit, not a criminal one...

Aug 28, 2012

He didn't show up to work yesterday. Out for the week for personal reasons. Figures.

I'll let you all know when I do something.

I am still trying to figure out the right thing to do, but you all have pretty much put every option under the sun out there. Obviously my first instinct is to punch him in the face, but I am pretty sure that would be the least tactful move in this situation.

A big part of my wants to burn him and get him fired, but the other part of me doesn't think that's right and I also firmly believe that he will bury himself with his poor performance. He has a garbage book and has only been able to open one account, that has done ONE trade (for like 100 bonds) in the last 6 months. Then again, he really threw me under the bus with internal account opening procedures, and swears he showed me how to do it the right way...between that and the shit talking he is definitely a liability. Not sure when my company does their reviews, but at some point, someone is going to look at his performance and it WILL be an issue.

As always, any additional ideas, or anything who has experienced a similar situation; I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.

Aug 28, 2012
DontSleep:

He didn't show up to work yesterday. Out for the week for personal reasons. Figures.

I'll let you all know when I do something.

I am still trying to figure out the right thing to do, but you all have pretty much put every option under the sun out there. Obviously my first instinct is to punch him in the face, but I am pretty sure that would be the least tactful move in this situation.

A big part of my wants to burn him and get him fired, but the other part of me doesn't think that's right and I also firmly believe that he will bury himself with his poor performance. He has a garbage book and has only been able to open one account, that has done ONE trade (for like 100 bonds) in the last 6 months. Then again, he really threw me under the bus with internal account opening procedures, and swears he showed me how to do it the right way...between that and the shit talking he is definitely a liability. Not sure when my company does their reviews, but at some point, someone is going to look at his performance and it WILL be an issue.

As always, any additional ideas, or anything who has experienced a similar situation; I appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.

This guy has probably done less than $1,000 in revenues in 6 MONTHS?!?!?! Tell us a little bit more about your firm. I am shocked this guy is still there. I would estimate one of two things:
1. You can count his time left in the firm in either seconds or minutes.
2. He has pictures of someone important at your firm doing something their spouse would not appreciate.

Aug 31, 2012

Ignore it and stop being a bitch

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Sep 1, 2012

Bro...

Just seek out his wife/girlfriend/mother/sister, bang her, get pics, show pics on wso, link to bloomberg.

Sep 4, 2012

Deal with it yet?

Sep 28, 2012

Okay sorry that took so long. I went with "ignore it and stop being a bitch"

Either way the guy got put on notice for bad performance... Which is an understatement. Pretty sure there is a 3 month window to shape up, or get teh fuck out.

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Sep 29, 2012

Good call - it takes a man to know when to avenge based on the "principle" and when to disregard emotions for the well-being of another (in this case douchy) person. Personally, I would've mentioned it straight to his face, explicitly describing how you're going to notify HR if he continues - it should make him cringe. There's no way he'd want to give HR another reason to terminate him. Consider it legal motivational blackmail.

Sep 29, 2012

How were you able to get onto his BBG without a fingerprint? Everyone in capital markets/S&T here has BBG Anywhere.

Sep 30, 2012
mrb87:

How were you able to get onto his BBG without a fingerprint? Everyone in capital markets/S&T here has BBG Anywhere.

When someone is out of office, their clients have backup coverage on an instit. sales desk. I am not this person's primary backup coverage, but the person that usually covers their accounts was also out. Basically this makes sure every trade that can possibly get done, gets done.

next time your at your BB terminal, type LOGU < GO >. This will bring up a screen allowing you access to other's terminals for which you are authorized, and also allow you to select other users to be able to login as you. You still have to login again, but it just rechecks your own fingerprint and password...not the person that you are logging in as. You can login for as many people as you have screens. I login as 2 or 3 people most days. You get their inquiry/cust BW/offers; it's an invaluable tool in S&T.

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Sep 30, 2012

I would throw him under the bus. First of all, this is good practice because you'll need to do it again if you want to be successful. Second, let everyone know not to fck with you.

Oct 4, 2012

What is he saying about your personality and looks? A little details here would help me form the extent of the repercussions in my plan for you.

Nov 14, 2013

You should not try to throw him under the bus.
But you shouldn't ignore it either.
Confront him, and talk to him.
Never know how things in life will plan out...
you might end up needing something from him in the future,
By solving this like a real man, that guy is in your debt.

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