College Ranking
Looking through a bunch of resumes. Assuming all else equal, how would you choice rank candidates from these undergrads:
Johns Hopkins
Washington and Lee
Vanderbilt
UNC-Chapel Hill
Georgetown
Colgate
Looking through a bunch of resumes. Assuming all else equal, how would you choice rank candidates from these undergrads:
Johns Hopkins
Washington and Lee
Vanderbilt
UNC-Chapel Hill
Georgetown
Colgate
+40 | Wharton Huntsman Program vs Yale vs Dartmouth | 40 | 1d | |
+32 | Umich Ross vs Rice vs Notre Dame Mendoza | 17 | 1d | |
St Andrews vs LSE vs Middlebury | 18 | 16h | ||
+26 | Target School Kids Stop Complaining | 6 | 1d | |
+25 | Oxbridge or Top 15 US School. | 7 | 17h | |
+23 | Imperial College Finance Masters' | 5 | 1d | |
+22 | UCL Vs Warwick Vs Umass Amherst Vs UW Madison Vs UofT for undergrad | 22 | 11h | |
+20 | LSE BSc Economics vs Cambridge BA Economics | 7 | 19h | |
+18 | UK/EU MSc's in Finance | 7 | 21h | |
+17 | Why is Boston College CSOM praised so much here? | 10 | 4d |
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1a Johns Hopkins - really depends on major
1b Vanderbilt
2a Georgetown
2b UNC-Chapel Hill
3. Colgate
4. Washington and Lee
Imagine getting dinged because another d***head college kid on WSO ranked your school’s ‘prestige’ lower than another
Hey maybe skim through the resumes for 10 seconds each, your majesty, and dont assume “all else equal”.
Yeah, how about looking at their qualifications and experience instead of splitting hairs between their school name?
Resumes are never equal. Someone always has an edge whether it be GPA, test scores, WE, Technical skills (coding, billingual). So, none of these candidates would win out strictly because of school.
What is the question was phrased as
-which college would you recommend to your little brother assuming he got into all of them and cost would be relatively the same?
Hopkins or Georgetown, depending on his goals and interests
If you're talking STEM/non-finance, then Hopkins, Vandy, Colgate, Washington and Lee, Georgetown, UNC)
But for finance based on the people I have come across in the industry:
1. Vandy (great finance program/overall great school)
2. Colgate (some of the most intelligent people i've met in this industry have been surprisingly Colgate alums, punches far above its weight)
3. Georgetown (another fantastic school that tends to churn out fantastic alums)
4. UNC (big difference between in-state and OOS students but still a top tier college)
5. Hopkins (Amazing school for STEM like I said, less so for other majors)
6. Washington and Lee (Obviously a great school but simply haven't met many alums)
Yeah I don't think Vandy is as good as Hopkins/Gtown (still a good school tho)
It's obvious Vanderbilt doesn't have the prestige of Georgetown/Hopkins when you see how Vandy gets little presence at top grad schools/banks compared to Gtown/Hopkins. Gtown blows Vandy out of the water at top law schools like HLS/YLS as well as Wall St recruiting while Hopkins is unrivaled for an undergrad experience that is super focused on the medical field. Putting Vandy on the same level of either is criminal bias imo
Vandy definitely is the most well-rounded tho - as Gtown is super humanities/finance focused (Gtown is not the place for STEM) while Hopkins is superb for STEM/Medical-related fields (but not the place for finance/humanities)
However Vandy is a classic jack of all trades master of none
Mine is:
1) Georgetown / Hopkins
2) Vandy (Good school but I haven't met anybody from here that lives up to the reputation some Vandy proponents give to the school except for occasional STEM hardos)
3) Colgate (Solid school and has good/loyal alum network)
4) UNC / W&L (Solid places and kids here know their stuff / UNC could def be bumped up to Vandy's level with Morehead)
I don't think that's entirely true. Hopkins is pretty good at IR too (like Georgetown), so I wouldn't say the Hopkins is just STEM. For students that try, people at Hopkins can place anywhere on the street.
As for Vandy, I think you are pretty wrong. In terms of grad school, Vandy definitely places better than Gtown. Is this the 1990s? I didn't realize students shoot for law schools anymore. Given that law schools generally only look at LSAT/GRE and GPA, I'm pretty sure Vandy would have an edge because they are better test takers (Gtown's median = Vandy's 25th percentile). Moreover, Vandy places way better for med/PhD programs even though we have less students. Gtown doesn't even publish their medical school acceptances. Vandy is also pretty well represented on the street. Georgetown may have more alumni, but our pipelines to MBB (Bain + BCG founders are from Vanderbilt) plus at BBs are pretty strong to the point that going to Georgetown doesn't give you an advantage. From tech/finance/consulting/ to grad school, Vandy has Gtown beat. Other than international relations, I don't see where Georgetown gives any student a meaningful advantage over Vandy.
"Jack of all trades but master of none." In most programs, Vandy is top 20. Vanderbilt is great in the humanities and the sciences, which allows students to approach school/switch career paths anyway they want.
Edit- also found that for fall 2020, 8 Vandy kids are enrolling at HLS. Can't find any enrollment/acceptance data from Georgetown.
- MIT Alum, brother goes to Vandy
https://bulletin.yale.edu/sites/default/files/yale-law-school-2019-2020…;
Clearly I have to bust out the data on this... Here is Yale Law School's report that details undergrad representation. Vandy has 4 while Georgetown has 13 (More than Duke's amount and close to Penn) - so I don't think your point about law school is valid since Yale Law takes into account an undergrad institution's prestige through their teacher evaluations.
Also on Wall St recruiting - I can't help but think you haven't been on this site too much. Georgetown places lights out and has tons of top BB exits and placement into BX, Ares, and other top buyside opps now because of the super strong alumni network. Now, I don't know about MBB (tho I would bet the SFS has Vandy beat on a per-capita basis) but on the finance opps / law school opps Georgetown has Vandy beat hands down.
You also said something about how Gtown is worse than Vandy on the Med School route and I agree with you on that - Georgetown is a school people should go to for humanities/finance opportunities as that is where the school shines. Picking Gtown over Vandy when one intends to pursue STEM or medicine would be a mistake - as Gtown (much to it's detriment in the rankings) really doesn't focus on STEM institutionally like my alma mater has (chicago).
So yeah Vandy is more well rounded but isn't better than Hopkins / Gtown within their speciality areas (Hopkins for med/STEM and Georgetown for humanities/finance) IMO.
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I’m sorry, but you could not possibly make the argument that JHU nor Vanderbilt outplaces Georgetown in IB nor MBB. That’s a joke. Look at the career surveys for all the schools, look at linkedin, look at any ranking on finance placement.
Also, georgetown absolutely outplaces vandy/JHU at yls/hls/cls and at hbs/wharton/gsb. Literally just look at the numbers. Whoever said those stats above was right. For 2019-2020, gtown had 13 at YLS vs. 4 from vandy.
This thread is a joke — clearly being skewed by some overly proud vandy grads.
Lol did I miss something, when did Columbia leap SLS
CLS is better than SLS for NYC biglaw. CLS and SLS are both top 6 tbf
It didn’t. I just happened to mention CLS and not SLS... wasn’t making a statement on law school rankings.
I would generally consider candidates from JHU, Vanderbilt, and Georgetown the same, and then UNC, and then W&L/Colgate. Also, you're obviously just using this in guise to figure out your college commitment decision. Take Georgetown or Vanderbilt, you'll have a good time.
1. Vandy - I went there, in recent years it sounds like people are more into studying which kind of sucks, but on the flipside might bode well for you needing competent employees. I'd say you'll get well rounded people who will work hard since the money you pay them is instrumental in funding their cocaine addiction.
2. Colgate - My brother went there 10 or so years ago and I visited him - had a killer time though worth considering that the candidates you look at might have drinking problems.
3. UNC - Know nothing about the school but have to imagine it's pretty fun and candidates are chill, it gets gentleman's third here.
4/5/6. Georgetown/Johns Hopkins/Washington and Lee - Gross, shred resumes immediately.
I went to 2 of these schools, my sister goes to a different one of these. I'm also a STEM major + MD turned business person, so I can comment pretty well.
If you're talking about sum of all parts STEM + Business + everything else (campus life included), it would go:
1. Vandy - by far the most well rounded, you have the resources to do well in any career path
2. Hopkins / Georgetown - each is elite in 1 area and not the other, and neither are as fun as Vandy
3. UNC - The individual undergraduate professional schools are top tier (business, public health, journalism), but the College of Arts and Sciences is kind of meh. Honors college and scholarship kids are very bright, but in-state kids are not
4. Colgate - Solid overall school, doesn't carry as much prestige
5. Washington and Lee - don't know much about it
For business: Georgetown tops the list followed by UNCs undergrad business school and then Vandy
For medical stem: Hopkins > Vandy > UNC > Georgetown
For non-medical stem: Vandy > Hopkins > UNC > Georgetown
Can confirm that Colgate "punches well above its weight," despite being a small school. I'm surprised at how many alumni from the school have founded companies in commercial real estate across the country--more so than most other top-LACs. As for the others, W&L is another top LAC that shouldn't be glossed over. For those that know, it is a very well-respected school. Very hard to get into all of these schools. Great options across the board ceteris-paribus....
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