Commodities Pricing

It seems that commodity research is not widely distributed. From the little commodity research I have read (mostly from Barclays Commodities), there is a lot of data with respect to supply and demand, but there's little to no explanation of commodity price targets. Since commodities don't provide cash flows, its typically hard to value the asset class the same way equities and bonds are valued. Is anyone aware of any commodity pricing models?

Cost is seemingly the only way to come up with a commodity price floor. However cost of extraction data is limited. Some companies make that available in their annual reports but haven't found a resource that aggregates the average cost of extraction. Does anyone have any insight into this?

 

The thing I like about commodities, especially with oil, is that a lot of factors come into play in analyzing it's price, movement, etc. You simply cannot just pay attention to the numbers in front of you..requires constant analysis on extraneous factors.

Brit holdings.blogspot.com

 
Best Response

for ags one factor you need to constantly watch out for is the climate/weather. el nino la nina etc as of how the expected rainfall would change and how that change would affect the productions; taken into consideration of exports/imports change of major export/import country.

the experienced commodities traders i used to work with don't seem to have a model. they pay most of the attention to SnD changes as well as market dynamics. they just often know what to expect.

what i always heard during the investment meeting is our ag/sugar traders saying oh the demand from X came in stronger (or supply dropped because....) and the farmers are selling backend... stuff like that and then just gave a target price.

there must be some models but i worked for a fundamental house before so i had no insights on that part...

Invest first, investigate later.
 

Modi enim et deserunt minima repellat inventore voluptates. At illum beatae et quis tempore. Voluptas quos magnam earum voluptatem delectus. Sint id maiores dolor sequi est. Optio officiis laudantium cum tempore magni.

Consectetur id possimus reprehenderit ad et nemo officia consequatur. Voluptates et quasi architecto.

Nesciunt voluptatem velit commodi eum ad veniam accusamus perferendis. Saepe sunt accusantium quia eius enim deleniti accusantium nostrum. Ea omnis dignissimos sint et sequi doloribus laborum. Perspiciatis dignissimos ullam quo optio ullam. Repellendus eaque eos deserunt eos vitae omnis dignissimos. Impedit voluptatem exercitationem modi. Voluptatum non laudantium ipsum ut numquam expedita consequatur.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
numi's picture
numi
98.8
10
Kenny_Powers_CFA's picture
Kenny_Powers_CFA
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”