As a Patriots fan, watching last night's whooping of the jets was ecstasy bordering on spiritual. Belichik is undoubtedly the most brilliant coach in the NFL, and Brady is at the peak of his game. It was great seeing the obnoxious loud-mouthed classless NY Jets get humbled.
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and they still overall have a very young team that is going to dominate next year as well as they grow
give brady the MVP, hopefully this game has already started riots at my school
As a midwesterner, and life long Indianapolis Colts fan I pretty much cheer against the Patriots every week unless they are playing the San Diego Chargers and there are few people I despise more than Belichick and Brady and none more than Rodney Harrison. However, it was awesome to see a cocky, loudmouth coach get his shit shoved back in his face.
I bet the Jets wish they had kept Danny Woodhead.
I live in Chicago, and I'm probably one of the very few patriots fans here. I of course despise the colts and am apathetic towards the chicago teams.
Next week's patriots vs. bears game is going to be very interesting.
I am from Indianapolis so, yeah, despise is a pretty good term for my feelings towards the Patriots. Chicago teams are very popular in Indianapolis though.
Easily Patriots over Bears though. I would never put any money on a team that has mike martz on its coaching staff.
Remember when the Pats went 18-1?
Also:
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No, I'm not a Jets fan, however, while I have no desire to argue this, I am just going to point out that the Pats are not a great team compared to everyone else. They are a bunch of mediocre players who have a brilliant coach and are all cogs in the machine. That's the secret to Belichick's system. Everyone is replaceable and that's the reason why it works.
If you look at every other team, they are built around 2-3 players. New England is not built around any one particular player, not because having the options is better, but there is no marquee name on the roster to build around. He eschewed that for developing a system that he could use with anyone that knew how to play. Everyone, including Brady, buys into the Cult of Belicheck and follows his system religiously. Beicheck has that rare power to, as Kraft pretty much gave full autonomy to run his team as he sees fit.
I could easily point out a number of QBs that are just as good, if not better, than Brady this season. The same goes for Wide Receivers, Running Back and Tight Ends. The point is, a great system can breed championships without great players behind it.
Part of his magical system involves video cameras and taping walk throughs of opposing teams.
Josh McDaniels brought the system over to Denver and it sure helped him out a bunch!
You do know that they went 18-0 AFTER spygate right ?
You actually couldn't if you wanted to use any sort of acceptable football metrics. Yes, Belicheck gets more out of his players than anyone else would. However, Brady is a bonafide star and to say anything else is absurd.
King, touche.
However, if you look at Belicheck in his Pre-Head Coach of the Pats days, he ran a hell of a defense when he was working for The Big Tuna. I'm just saying, the guy can coach and do more than just tape.
Do you know Belichick's record without Tom Brady ?
Yeah... as Head Coach, he went 36-44 in Cleavland (w/ a 1-1 record in the Post Season). He had one losing season in New England (5-11) prior to Brady becoming QB in 2001 and went 11-5 in 2008 when Brady was injured.
You mean 18-1, by the way.
So you can point out to all these other QBs who are at least as good as Brady, but you attribute the Pats being the best team of the past decade more to Brady than Bellichick. Mmmk.
What a smackdown that game was.
Goodbread, I didn't say that Brady was the reason why the Pats were dominant. I said that Belicheck had a shitty record as head coach in Cleveland and then had, in 2 seasons without Brady, a 16-16 record with only 1 losing season, his first as head coach in New England. He only had one season in New England before Brady got the starting nod as QB. Brady's start, much like Matt Cassel in 2008, happened when the Pats starting QB (in Brady's case, Drew Bledsoe, the far better QB at the time) went down with an injury.
And no, I didn't attribute the Pats to being the best team of the decade.
Bledsoe was definitely not the better qb at that point. He was playing behind a shitty O-line and had absolutely zero mobility, which meant he was getting sacked on every third play. Brady came in and was at least able to move around the pocket. Watching Bledsoe play the previous few seasons was absolute torture.
As to the Patriots being a collection of cogs, that is mostly true, but in addition to Brady, Wilfork is a stud and Mayo is definitely a calibre linebacker. The Patriots always have a motley collection of guys at the "skill" positions (CB, WR, RB), but generally have calibre guys on the o-line and d-line, and a pretty good group of linebackers.
And that was an excellent ass-pounding. It's always nice to be able to talk smack to Jets fans.
Sanchize my ass...that guy folded like a wet box, as he always does when they play AT the patriots. The jets had all that hype in spite of not beating a SINGLE team with a winning record. That game was over before the first quarter ended...disgraceful
I know you're not saying the Pats are the greatest team of the decade, but all the facts point to it. The 18-1 comments don't hurt too much because you'd be hard pressed to find a time that ever came close (save for the Dolphins, but that was a different era).
Don't forget McCourty, he's a stud in the making
Am I really the only one that thinks the Patriots are peaking too early?
I mean no one else in the league is really separating themselves at this point, so you've gotta say that the Pats are the best squad out there, but playoff football in recent years has been about getting hot at the right time. I'm just saying that I think the Pats are playing their best football of the season in Nov/Dec when you want it to be in Jan/Feb.
That said, I'm originally from Pittsburgh and am literally the hugest Steelers fan you will ever meet in your life, so I am obviously biased against the Patriots. I have never hated an organization more than I hate the Patriots of the 2000's (and trust me I hate Cleveland and Baltimore).
Right now predicting an all-Pennsylvania super bowl. Steelers v. Eagles.
But I will admit I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY THE PATRIOTS IN FOXBORO. Fuck that they don't lose up there. Need a miracle for the #1 seed.
Belichick's shining moment to me was when Matt Cassel almost took them to the playoffs.
The key to near term success this season for any team is taking Randy Moss off your roster.
Matt Cassel better have bought Tom Brady 7 Bentleys and a fucking house. The dude got a 66 million dollar contract because he got hurt. Without that injury to Brady, Matt Cassel wouldn't even be a footnote...
I will give New England credit for one big thing, something I think they're really proud of:
--It's really great to see how accepting they've been of the first openly gay professional athlete in America. It's especially impressive that they've been so supportive of it being their starting QB.
Big thumbs up for tolerance.
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