Cornell Dyson vs. Cornell ILR
Hey WSO, I'm a high school junior getting ready to apply to colleges next year. I plan on applying to a variety of IB target and semi-target schools, Cornell being one of them. As a NYS resident, Cornell offers the ILR program, which has a tuition ~15k lower per year compared to the rest of Cornell. The only catch is, I would have to major in labor economics, which isn't very applicable to investment banking. Should I apply to the ILR program, which would save me ~60k over all four years, or should I apply to Dyson and pay full tuition? Thanks.
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Doesn't matter, all the "business" majors at Cornell receive equal OCR treatment from firms. The only exception is Blackstone, who prefers Hotelies for their Real Estate programs
Cornell is a fucking huge school and while their overall finance placement stats is good, it's not that great when your looking at the proportion of people who want finance vs who get it. Dyson is defintely going to be MUCH easier to break into IB than ILR, but it depends more on what you do and if you have the stats/ecs for Dyson. If you don't ILR is a decent option, but there are other places such as Ross or Stern which might place worse than Dyson, but a lot better than ILR.
selection bias. Most people in dyson are gunning for Front office jobs while most in ILR are going for law, consulting, HR, etc.
Why on earth do people feel the need to opine on something they know jack shit about?
The Dyson and Cornell relationship is nothing like the Wharton and Penn/Ross and Michigan/Stern and NYU relationships. The entirety of Dyson is 700 kids, the vast majority who are legacies, athletes, and those with agricultural backgrounds (these guys get first pick and their first choice is always AEM). Compare that to Wharton’s UG population of 2,500, Ross’ UG population of 4,249, and Stern’s UG population of 2,690.
Suggesting people should go to a different school if they don’t think they can get into Dyson is retarded. Cornell is one of the most represented schools on the Street and it’s not Dyson’s tiny 200 kids per year that makes that happen.
Dyson - The College of Business is SUNY so you should be able to get a tuition discount if you’re a NYS resident
Really? I was under the impression that only IRL was SUNY. Thanks for the info.
The undergrad acceptance rate at Dyson is lower than Wharton’s, the move might be to go ILR then transfer
Nah always apply directly to the school you want to get into. Transferring is never guarenteed, especially into top programs like Dyson.
Nah this isn’t accurate it’s easy af to transfer to Dyson from one of the other school is you’re smart.
Echoing some of the early points, Dyson is in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS) which is a land-grant institution and just like ILR offers reduced in-state NY tuition. Between ILR, Dyson (AEM), Hotel, PAM (College of Human Ecology), Econ (Arts & Sciences), etc. all majors are given proper consideration for recruitment - more than anything it comes down to club involvement and the network you build out while at Cornell. From personal experience and the experiences of many of my friends/peers, both Dyson and ILR are equally great for BB and EB IBD prospects, although in some part ILR is unique to sell in interviews because it isn't the traditional finance major (i.e. AEM).
I am not in either Dyson or ILR (I'm actually in College of Human Ecology lol) and found that OCR did NOT discriminate whatsoever. Comparing my experience to my Dyson friends, recruiting difference was negligible. When I was a freshman, I thought it was necessary that I transfer into Dyson – waste of time and didn't go through with it. This comment is obviously late, but I'm in the camp of going where you see most fit... Your opportunities to FO roles are not limited as it seems evident from my experience that recruiters see Corrnell more holistically as say UPenn vs Wharton. There's no "Cornell Dyson" prestige which is different from "Cornell ILR" or "Cornell Humec" –What's most important is that you go for the program you're able to get a higher GPA at, learn the relevant material (via self study or classes), and you will generally face no shortage of opportunities.
Dyson is a state school. Same tuition as ILR.
It does not matter! Go for ILR if money is an issue. Being in Cornell will give you enormous opportunities. oCR will be almost the same, no significant difference in outcomes at all
I know this is prob late, but I know someone who did ILR and got into Investment Banking at top top firm. Really I think GPA matters more. I barely know of any dyson people in investment banking. I say high GPA is more important, and you can easily get a minimum of a 3.7 in ILR.
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