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38
What does not being asian have to do with this
I come into this thread expecting this dude to be ~25 and this motherfucker is 38. God damn,
is she over/under half ur age plus 7 lol also arent u like 30 something
If her age is on the clock...
Army or normal
Bro you ain't just 21+, you're like almost 40. I feel weird dating people less than 21 as is. I'm genuinely curious about what you even talk about/have in common with a 19 year old
"We sometimes work on weekends when it's absolutely needed."
"How often does that happen?"
"Every weekend"
Last time I dated a 19 year old I was 22. I could barely tolerate the difference in maturity then. In my 30’s it seems like it would be much more trouble than it’s worth.
Last time I dated a 19 year old I was 22. I could barely tolerate the difference in maturity then. In my 30’s it seems like it would be much more trouble than it’s worth.
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She’s cute, solid 8. But dude if you’re looking to date her and not just hook up, wouldn’t it be kinda weird if she wants you to meet her parents? Lmao you’re closer to her dads age than to her age. My own concern would be if we were on the same page on a lot of things. 38 and 19 year olds, in general, have different goals and lifestyles choices.
Regardless, she’s a legal adult and consenting adult, ignore the haters.
Brother, don’t post girls pics on this forum. I feel it’s kind of a violation of privacy
Ok - deleted
Seconded. If this was on a dating profile or publicly available through search it's fair game.
Of course she's cute, she's a teenager and you are almost a middle-aged man ( regardless of how young you think you look). A little early for your mid-life crisis, isn't it?
I think this is just pretty much normal. I only talk to 18 - 25 yr olds for dating .... she's just within the range. The chick that gave me her number at the grocery store was acceptable though also and was 28, which was an exception.
Also, I think this chick mainly wants to hookup and I want to date. I need to set the terms somehow.
I’ve seen you repeat this a bunch of times. I’ll just say — it absolutely is not normal, despite what you seem to think.
Some men like to date women young enough to be their daughter. It doesn't usually last well, long term, but if both parties are primarily just interested in the physical aspect of the relationship, it can work. Assuming she understands what she is getting into with a middle aged man who calls women "chicks", I would guess she does, and is experienced in these matters already.
If you think these comments are abusive, wait until you start dating her. Eye roll. You did ask for opinions.
If I started dating her, we would look more like a 20s couple. Our ages would cancel each other out.
LMAO what the FUCK does this even mean
Mfw when Isaiah, a near 40 year old man, literally posts a picture of an actual teenager he met on Tinder to a finance forum, on Good Friday nonetheless
Yeah I'm the guy taking the chicks from your dating range, sue me.
Barf, predator alert
Simping for girls half your age definitely constitutes a grievous sin, especially on Good Friday. Shaking my head, Isaiah, thought you were a real one U__U
Maybe hot take but I swear its always the outspoken, publicly religious chicks that are the biggest thots and the outspoken publicly religious dudes that are the biggest creeps. Projecting outwards as a defensive mechanism maybe
Jerry Falwell and his wife... oof.
No I agree. If she has a Bible verse in her Instagram bio it's a red flag
GOAT gif. I've scrolled by so many times I have to comment.
That fuckin hernia nut grab gets me every damn time
So many haters - wow bro.
18 is no bueno...19 you in clear. But does she still live at home with her folks?
Thanks bro. Yeah I think she still lives at home. She goes to school in Canada, but they are doing remote classes now. She lives 1mi away from me so is super close. I personally don't like driving too far so the distance is a big factor for me.
Yah guess your title is mainly to do with dating someone you cannot legally take to a restaurant and share a bottle of wine with. Living at home plus all the driving going to say this is all starting to become too much of a problem, if you invite her for dinner do you gotta go get her and take her back later...is mom going to let her stay the night ha. Just too many signs she ain't independent yet.
Btw in Canada she would be legal drinking age so any solace she should not feel weird if you always buy her booze.
No hate here-sounds like you can give her what she wants physically, and will spend some serious money on her as well. If she is happy with that deal (and a whole group of women are), no problem. You are delusional if you think anyone will think you are a 20s couple. They will understand the bargain you both made.
If you want actual conversation, you can always talk to her parents, who you probably have more in common with. Sounds like a winning plan.
Exactly. My plan is to wine and dine the parents to unlock the daughter. A winning strategy.
I don’t see anything wrong with this
Right? I didn't start this thread for "if this is right or wrong," but more about on how to execute.
I mentioned this only bc many haters here
It would be easier and likely cheaper to just pay for it. See the movie Pretty Woman for tips on how it's done.
No.
I am sure you can pay for whatever services you want.
Yes, I am certain she is only interested in a physical relationship with a middle aged man due to your amazing good looks. It isn't like she could find good looking college boys at school. You might want to card her yourself; at our local high school, underage girls post and lie about their age. The term is "jail bait".
Thanks
As I said before, you are delusional.
She accepted my Tinder match and messaged me. I didn't message her. Get over yourself.
Dating me is like a gauntlet. My last girlfriend I made her ride 8x up a bridge on the bike. She had a good experience and got the course record on Strava. We had a good night that night and she was happy for her achievements. I seek to push people physically. It was a hard day for her, but she succeeded.
Lmao what the fuck is this psycho ass shit
Pretty sure the 22-25 year olds he dated before has costed him a lot more time/$$$ than some 19 year old living at home with her parents matching with older guys. Guessing a night out is maybe all it will cost him. That said gotta drive and get her and driver her back...
dude honestly how much shit do I get for this thread #unexpected
Who knew Matt Gaetz was on WSO
I take some offense to this as I'm obviously posting very legal scenarios.
Bruh when you were her age / 19 in college she was a fetus. Fine to hook up but how do you date someone that far away from your life experience? If you have any intention of settling down and starting a family at some point, you probably should date women who are psychologically ready to do that. If you wait another 5 years to marry and have kids, you'll be 60 when they graduate high school. Not a huge deal but I would assume given your active lifestyle that you would also want to be active when kids leave the nest (which would also be close in parallel with your retirement).
I’m in my 20’s and in with you on this one. I think that someone not yet through college has a completely different perspective on life than us. Now he does whatever he wants but not sure why he’s posting this on WSO - use Reddit maybe?
Do whatever you want as long as it’s between two consenting adults and makes you guys happy. Cheers
As long as you are not reducing a person to a single characteristic without considering their full complexity and autonomy, I see nothing wrong here. Two consenting 18+ adults can do whatever they want.
It's a noted phenomenon that has existed for nearly eternity that men are naturally attracted to women within a certain age range because of their fertile windows. Biologically, men can successfully reproduce for nearly their entire life while women can not. Biological preferences dictate that men prefer women who are fertile and can handle the physical rigors of a pregnancy, while women prioritize men who have the sufficient means to provide for their young, making them less discriminatory with regards to age.
Ask someone who says it's "creepy" exactly why they subscribe to this notion, they will likely not be able to give a cogent argument.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/15/style/dating-apps-online-men-women-a…
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283454064_The_Gendered_Dynamic…
This study shows that while men's preferences tend to trend younger relative to their own age as they grow older, women's age preferences are more diverse.
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Bro this is just creepy. Not technically pedophilia, but definitely has those vibes.
Fuck you, you anonymous coward
You're literally 38 and you actually posted a picture of a teenager on the internet for a community of 800,000+ people to see.
Special place in hell for pedophiles like you. You know damn well that while she's legally an adult, she's literally a child in every other regard. I don't care how hot or cool you think you are, a 38 year old does not belong with a 19 year old. Period. Honestly, do you just not hang out with anyone of your own age ever? What the fuck is wrong with you? My anonymity has nothing to do with this.
This is borderline defamatory. You've lost it.
I recognized posting the picture was inappropriate when someone prompted and immediately took it down. It is clear that I took it down even though you might have missed that. I've done nothing wrong here, so stop accusing me of things just to make yourself feel better.
Agreed
Why does the title say 21+ when you're 38? Yes, a 38 year old is technically 21+, but it's just a bad descriptor.
Because anyone 21+ has to deal with these issues. I think I'll just plan to take her running if she wants to hangout and see how that goes. I was hoping to hear some activities especially during Covid. Instead all I get is hate and no activity suggestions.
All you get is hate here cause you are a creep.
Honestly, some of your comments on this thread are up there with the weirdest things I've ever read. Just so bizarre and creepy. Get it together
Thanks, that means a lot coming from you, anonymous 22 year old. You feel like you know much about the world right now, don't you?
Dude, what kind of reaction do you expect to a ludicrous post like this? Answer me this: as a parent of a daughter, would you want a 38 y/o guy who outs an older teen girl on online forums to date her? GTFO. You're a clown!
Creep is a catch all word that basically means nothing and can't be argued against. In all my life i've never seen anyone of value use it. It's either butthurt tools or overentitled bitches.
I dated a 42y old woman when i was early twenties, and i loved every minute of it, she had fun, i had fun. It didn't last but who cares.
How is it your business what people like or not ?
Been with a few milfs myself, honestly exploring the dating scene outside of what's traditional is freeing and a learning experience.
Also, equating this man to a pedophile is pretty unfair. He never mentioned once going below 18 so to prematurely socially brand this guy with a scarlet letter because irrational mob mentality dictates it is a bad precedent. He's not hurting anyone so lets all relax
I've seen you with terrible takes in the past, but this is a new low. If this ends up happening, know that most people on the street are silently judging you when they see you out with your daughter-wife.
You have never lived in NYC have you?
I live in NYC, but go off fam
Honestly this isn't that weird in places like NY, LA, Miami, Atlanta & Dallas. Also who are we to really make snap judgements others based on surface-level characteristics? It's an ugly habit, and habitual judgement of others typically stems from insecurity
It's legal is about all I've got to offer assuming she isn't lying about her age.
I'm in my mid 20's and 19 feels way out of my acceptable dating range but that's just me. I personally wouldn't date anyone that hadn't graduated college yet or if she didn't go to college was 21+ and somewhat had her shit together.
If you want to buy alco for her just be with her til she is sober, then you are taking more responsible😏
Yeah 21+ makes it easier it seems for going out and stuff.
You must be very scared by women your own age. The good news is you will seem mature and sophisticated to a teenager. Almost anyone would.
Well said.
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why would you care what other people, esp WSO, think? this forum is leaning more left and woke by the day what answers are you expecting?
personally girls under 20 are too immature for me (im 26 for reference) but do whatever the fuck you want
I was hoping to hear some activities you do while dating someone not 21 yet. But, no one really commented on that.
Why didnt you ask for that then? You literally just said “dating a
Isaiah, all I see is a lot anonymous jealous college kids on this forum.
Yeah the Anons have taken over.
We need financeabc to chime in
Well, the way the topic is described, it does not sound so bad, if the dude is 20s. I am not going to tell anyone what they should or should not do. I am even older than Isaiah and If I were dating, the girl would have to be at least 25-30, which is still a lot younger than me. For Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎 at 38, the lowest I would go is 21-25.
If you are a young looking older guy, dating someone much younger may not look so bad. If you are an older looking older guy, you are going to look like the girl's father.
Isaiah's signature takes a whole new meaning if you combine it with the borderline pedo vibes he's already putting down
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else... There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them."
There is no borderline and I don’t intend on breaking the law so quit this fake labeling of something that I am not and do not intend to be.
Also, testing the athletic limits of the person I am dating is typical, not sure why you don’t get it. I want to be their personal trainer.
Stop man, you're really not helping yourself here ...
Scott Disick (37 and 19)
You're not Scott Disick but
More like...
Alright bro, I’m not hating, I’ll give you some suggestions. For reference I’m 22.
1. Are you into cars? Take her to the track and race. But she’s a girl and maybe won’t be into it.
2. Take her rock climbing, physical and fun.
3. Weather is getting nice, rent a boat and go out on the water if you’re near enough.
4. Take her to the gun range and shoot your hearts out. Great guns = great fun.
5. You’re into cycling right? Take her cycling, do a race/marathon. Mountain biking could be fun.
6. Go hunting, unless she’s a woke vegan, if she is don’t do this! (Ask me how I know)
7. Paramotoring is fun, might need to take a couple classes first though.
8. Do a day trip somewhere nice, I know you hate driving, but could be fun.
let me know if you need more.
Thanks bro these are great ideas.
Nothing wrong with it but you should take into consideration what you actually value and where her priorities are (at 19 she probably doesn’t know yet) at this stage and how they might change. Dating her could always end up great or end up bad, but there is no way of knowing until you at least attempt to be in a relationship. At the end of the day, even if it turns out bad, I’m sure there are a lesson or two that you could take away from it. Basically, if it makes you happy and you both have similar or no deal breaker values, then I would go for it. Life is too short not to do shit that you want to do due to fear (in this case age difference). Good luck man!
Dated an 18-year old when I was 20, and while she and I were great, it was pretty tough being around her friends even though we were basically the same age, and I feel the same way now (at 26) looking at 21-22 year olds. There’s a huge ramp in maturity from freshman to senior year of college, and then another huge ramp in maturity once you get out of school.
I’m supportive of two consenting adults doing whatever the hell they want, but I personally would feel weird dating someone below 23 or so at my age (and that number will probably go up as I get older)
Somewhat similar situation. At 23 I did 21 ad it felt like a gap. At my age now I won't date anyone more than 3 years younger. At least until I'm 50, at which point I'd be willing to go +5 -25.
Oh and to give you a relevant personal story from my family. My uncle was 40 when he married my 21 year old aunt, they had dated for 2 years prior. That was 12 years ago and they’re still together. I posted about this before I think, but it’s relevant to this thread. If I were you, I’d go for it, you never know what might end up happening.
People are hating and being extremely judgmental for absolutely no reason. You don’t need validation.
Tbh, seeing at how idiotic guys my age are, I don’t blame women in my demographic dating older men. It’s actually the reasonable thing to do.
People are hating and being extremely judgmental for absolutely no reason. You don't need validation.
Tbh, seeing at how idiotic guys my age are, I don't blame women in my demographic dating older men. It's actually the reasonable thing to do.
Double post
Gonna be a strange evening for these dudes who dying for for MF l-PE/HF/greatness when they go out one evening and their 40 plus sr MD/partner will be flirting beyond belief with the 20yo waitress. Wonder if they will call that dude a pedo.
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Whoever gets the chicks, wins, get on board...
Flirting with waitresses is creepy regardless of any age gaps anyways.
I don't flirt with them, they flirt with me....
Yeah exactly, these keyboard warriors won't say sh*t in person.
Those guys just want sex. Everybody understands that transaction.OP wants an emotional dating relationship with a girl still living with her mom. Even odds the kid is still in high school
Yep, that's the weird part for me. You want to bang a teenager? Slightly creepy, but sure, go ahead. You restrict your *dating age range* for serious, emotional relationships to teenagers? You're a fucking weirdo.
Wow we don't have the same preferences. Thanks for your invaluable comments and contributions. You haven't lived my life and you haven't had to deal with someone with years of emotional baggage. Seriously get me away from that - never again. Yes, I am looking for marriage material and want to have lots of kids - something that someone in their older 30s can't always provide.
We get older but they stay the same
best comment on the thread brother
Tell her you are at an EB, and when she asks what is that, just whip it out
You guys won't believe it - I got reservations at Dorsia. She is going to love it.
I hear the sea urchin seviche is great.
This guy says his age range is 60 - 80
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMePy45jj/
80 is probably too much, but there are plenty of smoking hot cougars in 40-60 age group. I had a lady who was almost 60 and she was fun. She's a teacher as well and was telling me about some student I reminded her of, lol.
as long as she's 18+, it's all good.
age difference is fun. I like both significantly younger (as long as 18+) and significantly older women.
I look at this from a practical view. Are you interested in having kids? If so, you're running out of time. Someone that young won't know what they want, and will take up your time. Even girls that I meet that are 25 are playing games, but girls who are 21 and younger will just ghost you because they feel like it lol For you I would probably look for girls around 27 who kind of know what they want, and hopefully within 2 years you can have kids.
In terms of dating, date whoever you want. There will definitely be barriers driven by differences in age, but anything is possible.
I’m not running out of time. I could still probability have kids for decades. Do you understand male biology?
Google it, the older you are when you have kids, the harder it is to have kids and the higher the likelihood the kids will have some sort of mental defect or other issues.
Go for it, but my gut tells me that when she finds out your fuck game ain't that of a 21 year old, she'll leave you for one. Just make sure you don't invest in her emotionally. Have fun, young pussy is great
This, just treat it like a casual fling
obviously not “illegal” or anything but still super weird. maybe it could work but it’s a bad look bud. I’d stick with partners close to your age. She’s a teenager!!
It’s a bad look? Well maybe you should stick to partners close your own age if that’s what you want.
its a terrible look, she's a teenager that lives at home. that is basically cradle snatching smh. 38 year old dating a 19 year old? Creepy as fuck
Isaiah, you are a menace
I think the hate here on Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎 is a little over done. It might seem a little weird to some but I think the dude is just flexing a little. The reality is that most older men are going want to date younger women. I think that most people here think, he is going a little too low in age and that is a fair point.
I think the hate is compounded by being so socially oblivious that he posted the girl's picture on a finance forum, and rightly so. The judgement from a grown man should be infinitely better than that. But the guy went to a finance forum to source dating ideas for a teenager so he obviously isn't winning in critical thinking.
He clearly suffers from a weird combination of being blatantly insecure and trying to flex like he isn't.
I did not see the pic. I am going to assume that the girl looked young. That is something I would never do because I would not be certain about how old she is and my risk tolerance is low For all you know, she could be underaged.
There are a bunch of interns on here - I thought I would get some decent feedback, but obviously it was a mistake asking a bunch of insecure anonymous keyboard warriors for dating advice.
Not against it but chicks that young are tad annoying. My sweet spot is 22-28.
That is a better range. What would the parents think of a teen girl bringing home a guy close to 40. I have a teen girl ( underaged) and I am not sure how I would react if when she is 18, if she brought home a guy that is close to 40
Yeah, teen girls bringing home 40 year old men gives off that “I have daddy issues” vibe.
This is partly what I wanted to talk about on here as I had the same thought. But, people just want to attack me.
She is in college - I didn’t know college girls were off limits, but it seems too much for WSO to handle.
Yeah 22-25 is a good range.
I’m OP’s age (so not a college kid) and this is Matt Gaetz level weird (maybe more cause it’s on online forum - guy gotta be lonely). Doesn’t have to be underage, but hanging out at FSU bars for under 21s, sharing pictures / videos with others, showering them with gifts and nice things and probably keeping a scorecard somewhere.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/orgy-underage-girls-sex-games-and-exto…
Well, I think he has already acknowledged in other topics that he has some issues.
First - I don't dislike the guy, I feel bad for him. Let's use a map as a simile to demonstrate this situation...
If Isaiah recognizes that his map is broken (he said he has issues), and then he tries to use said map to get to a destination ... That's problematic. The overwhelming rejection seen in this thread should signal that Isaiah's map is not shared amongst many, whether he wants to adjust to that signal is up to him. All I can say is...
Isaiah, go fix your map please. Stop seeking validation on the internet. Do not begin journeys (relationships) with someone so young and cause damage to their map while yours still has so much work needed. It's selfish of you.
Personally 27 and prefer to date 19-21 merely as a method of finding someone that will maintain their looks for the longest amount of time possible. Do note that I am effectively accepting the fact that she won't have a large (if any) income and it's fairly likely that she won't be the sharpest tool either.
For someone that is 40 and looking to date 18-20, I'm somewhat lost. The same motives I have lose some of their value in this case because IMO the priorities shift from having a hot S/O to having an S/O that wants to have kids very fast with the rest being secondary/tertiary etc.
I’m not 40 and my range on dating apps is 18 - 25. It’s not one sided - they have to put in my range and accept me as well.
if its ok for Leonardo dicaprio
then its ok for me
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