Lots of literature on dating in IB... but what about Equity Research?
Have you been able to have successful relationships? Is there enough time, and is the job predictable enough to plan dates and things? Vacations away? Any advice would help.
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Way more predictable unless you work for a truly terrible analyst. Just don't take a vacation during the four earnings seasons.
I've read elsewhere that while the week is generally shot, Friday nights and saturdays are usually pretty open. Can you comment on the validity of that? Sundays I've heard usually require a few hours of prep work.
Pretty accurate, the problem is due to news flow - an M&A, a regulatory change, a management change, you need to get back into the office (or turn on laptop if WFH) and start writing a note. And also the senior analyst / MD's 5 pm "simple quick analysis" which are usually neither quick nor simple.
Some analysts are pretty good at not bothering over weekend (unless a big M&A announcement regarding a name in your coverage heading into Monday). Some are just nuts and will work you through weekends - especially those II Rising Star types, trying to make a name. Saw this other thread about Umer Raffat, imagine working for Umer when he was just trying to get his FIRST II #1 ranking.
90% of associates hours outside of earnings will be under 60 hours/week. M-Th Generally 7-7 (some variability there for events, big news/acquisition or something in coverage post close) and Fri 7-5 with minimal weekend work. Should have no problem with a fairly predictable schedule to make dinners/drinks/dates. Scheduling a vacation outside of earnings is generally not a problem, but I would say team dynamics play a bigger part. A smaller shop with just an analyst and 1 associate, your boss would have to "cover" your tasks that week so some can be more dickish about it than others. Bigger shops with an analyst and 2-4 associates, as long as all of the juniors aren't taking vacation the same week you should be fine. I'd also note, summer tend to be much quieter (buyside/corporates takes vacation, people with kids etc..) so it is even easier to get some time off in summer.
Perfect! Thank you so much. Much less anxious about that now.
Been working in ER for 3-4 years, and spent 3 of them without a steady girlfriend, but have been with someone for the past year or so
If you are currently single: it is hard to plan dates during the week - while you usually aren't working terribly late like in IB. You may have to work til ~8-9pm on a given day without much notice. On a slow day my hours would be 830am-630/730pm but the kicker is you never know when news might come out on a stock you cover, and that can blow up your night if you have to write about it. Also your MD could ask for something at 4 or 5pm that takes a few hours so (at least in my experience) you never really know. Weekends are easy enough to plan dates as I had plenty of time to socialize, but I understand its not ideal as people don't like to waste a weekend day on a first date.
If you are currently in a relationship: its quite easy to maintain a relationship IMO. Yes my significant other complains I can't go on dates often during the week but I make plenty of time for her. Vacations aren't an issue.
As you may have read in other ER posts, your experience is highly dependent on your MD/senior analyst. My MD was a bit of a slave driver before COVID but has softened a bit since, and over the years I started to figure out work what was actually important enough to work late/work weekends etc.
Oh great, those requests that came at 4-5pm. Good times.
I have definitely read that about the senior analyst. Thank you!
Within my team, I see that the juniors are significantly less busy. The best way I can explain it is that the seniors have a ton of calls, and have to review and finish up anything that juniors do. Working on the west coast, hours for most analysts/associates are 6:30am until 3-5pm. During earnings of course you might have a day starting at 3am or ending late like 9pm. Then VPs/Directors and MDs generally work later hours but are less likely to be up early. So they might be 6:30 - 4pm and then during earnings might be 6:30 - 11pm. Friday's are generally done for everyone by 2 or 3 at the latest. Weekends almost guaranteed safe.
So bottom line is that it's very possible to date but you might have to make compromises between dating and seeing friends. Hard to do both consistently.
It's a relief that weekends are generally considered safe! Thank you.
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