Didn’t get into the IBW workshop from Kelley, I’m I fucked?
As the I mentioned on the subject. I go to Kelley but didn’t get in the workshop. Am I fucked since the IBW is the only way to get into banking?
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You’d get better answers by talking to alumni and upperclassman, and taking a look at LinkedIn tbh
The IBW makes it easier to get into banking, but non-IBW students get into banking every year. BBs and EBs will be significantly harder, but I'm sure they're possible with enough networking. MMs are definitely attainable and I've seen many non-IBW students at good MMs
There are people who got into IB in the few years after graduation who weren’t in the workshop. BB or EB highly unlikely though. Have a ~3.7+ going into senior year and reach out directly to boutiques (Chicago probably best bet given proximity/alumni population) via email. It will still be tough and you need to prepare well and/or get lucky. It’s possible (and probably more likely) to go from a related job (big 4 consulting, commercial banking analyst) after 1-2 years. MM unlikely out of college but possible after some experience.
Hahaha, IDK if I would be looking at having to lateral in just yet. There's no way this guy can be in a worse situation than the students at my school. I can count the number of alumni on my right hand haha.
Not only alumni, but alumni helps.
It’s worth reaching out to MM and boutiques directly for SA if you have the grades still.
its much easier to gun for SA roles at boutiques. I'm sure you'll have a great shot at MMs. I've heard there are backup clubs. your just going to have to do most of the work that is spoonfed by yourself. a bit harder, albeit its definitely doable.
I would join the Capital Markets Group at IU Kelley. I know several kids who got into DCM and even Lev Fin roles at MMs from that group.
CMBW is your answer.
CMBW finished recruiting also and I was focusing on the IBW only :(
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I felt like I fucked up my technicals in the interview and ended all my chances
When I was at Kelley, I didn't even know it existed lmao. To make up for it, I transferred to a target school.
This is the way. I didn't even consider IU for undergrad because I'd rather go to an actual semi-target with a normal sized business class instead of competing with 1000 other finance majors at IU. Just accepted an offer from GS/MS/JPM while most of my friends in IU are going to big 4 or boutiques. Would say my decision paid off.
Dude you got a commercial banking internship. Shut the fuck up. Can’t believe you have the arrogance to think your comment is at all relevant here. Your numbers are also wrong. In the wise words of cbreezy - how are you going to hate from outside the club? You can’t even get in. To OP - you can still make it. It’ll be harder as you know. I hired non workshop kids at my old firm and helped others network to find MM roles.
Is it too late to transfer if I’m a sophomore?
As long as you are able to transfer...
What year did you transfer? was it after sophomore year? Did that not fuck up your network having to start from scratch somewhere new in the middle of SA recruiting?
I was a junior, but my situation is different. 90%+ of the times I don't pass the resume round given that I need visa sponsorship (and I have won a national ER case competition already). Now that Biden will be president, it will be a bit easier; I will try out my luck by applying directly to a full-time position.
Nah, you should say fuck you to that club and fuck you to your school. Bust your ass off and transfer to a school that is actually good and youll be much better off. Youll be glad you did
Following lmfao
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Short answer: No.
I graduated from IU and went to a BB without having been in the IBW. BB is hard without the IBW, but many IU alums are still willing to take your call. Talk to Haeberle if he has time or Sibley (he's a great guy) and work out a plan to move forward. Boutiques in NY, SF, and Chicago are still 100% on the table for you, assuming you are qualified and have an interesting profile. I worked for a BB in a 'backwater' office for 2 years and transferred to London (NY fell through last minute but oh well) before exiting.
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Who the fuck is Kelley
Ok, I’m not sure if this is a troll account or real tbh. That said, if real I broke into banking not having gotten into my schools finance club and was going to send you a bible on how to break in as well as a better resource than anything you would get in a finance club. Sadly, your comment history is so bizarre, I can’t in the right mind provide materials to you. You posted on some thread about watching videos to be an “alpha male” and that banking will help you get women. That out of the way, in case others are in a similar situation, there are three reasons you don’t get in a finance club at any school:
If you correct the flaw you will be able to get a job at a bank. I have recruited and interviewed and done final rounds for candidates and no one cares if you were in a finance club. Once you get the first round interview it’s irrelevant. Getting the first round interview though requires persistence and strategy and ability to interview and converse well that many people don’t have. From my experience interviewing people in clubs, a huge proportion are just really weird individuals who are uncomfortable to talk to. If this is the reason you didn’t get in a club, you likely will also fail to recruit well. If you weren’t prepared, it begs the question of why? History tends to repeat itself, so odds are many people that show up unprepared to a club interview will also not put the preparation time into real IB recruitment. That said, I do know many people who woke up or matured after not getting in a club and later prepared appropriately. Finally, if someone just hated you in the club, you will be fine, just keep doing what you are doing and it will work out.
In summary, there is a huge correlation to kids failing to get into a finance club at their undergrad and failing to make it into IB. That said, correlation isn’t causation and I personally don’t think it’s that difficult recruiting if you can find 1 mentor who has been on the other side of the process to explain how the industry works. This website should have a ton of them, pm them, setup a call offline, and they will help you/ answer the questions you have. It’s not the end of the world failing to get into a finance club at any school, most of them frankly have no clue what they are talking about and are a bunch of ex-interns acting like they “understand the industry” despite never having completed a transaction.
Hello,
I am a high-school senior and have been accepted as a direct admit to Kelley. I have not heard back from all my schools, but in case I do decide to attend IU, I have to consider the possibility of not being accepted to the IB Workshop.
Would you be okay sharing your guide to making it into banking without being a part of the school's finance club? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you
Hi there, I am a senior going to IU this fall. I would like to get your Bible on how to get into IB or HF if I don't make it to IBW. I am going to work hard and try my best to make it to IBW but would like to prepare myself in case I was not accepted. I am senior patrol leader of my boyscout troop and believe I will have the character to be liked by many. Please share any information you have that will help me. Thanks for your help.
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People at IU think the workshops are the only way to get a look at any worth while internship. Sure it helps but if you have a good GPA/EC/experiences you're still in the same conversation. Try and set your focus on that and also just enjoy the college experience. Just my 2c, coming from a junior interning at well respected HF this summer (non IMW).
Tf is the IMW
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