Do you consider yourself Conservative, Moderate or Liberal? What makes you define yourself as that?

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Just immigrated to the US, and I am not familiar with American politics.

I come from a place where I am told to leave politics at home when you come to work, but I was surprised to overhear quite a lot of discussions about politics here.

I know that different cultures have different ways to categorize one's political leaning. So help me out here.

What makes you conservative/moderate/liberal in this country? What values do you believe in?

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Aug 2, 2019

What makes me a conservative is that I believe that government should not play a large role in the politics of the United States, it should be small, with the power be relegated to the people. Authority should not be highly centralized.

https://usconstitution.net/const.html

Timing Is Everything.

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Aug 3, 2019

Thanks for the comment! I understand the high level concept of a small government. I think that is pretty straight forward when you are dealing with issues like minimum wage or antitrust laws.
But how does that effect your ideas on individual issues such as immigration? Legalization of marijuana?

Aug 3, 2019

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Timing Is Everything.

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Aug 6, 2019

The modern right stands for highly centralized, concentrated power in the hands of the rich minority (corporations, PE etc.)

If you want power to the people you are on the left. At least in government theoretically everyone has a vote.

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Aug 3, 2019

Moderate.

I'm all for republican economics. But I think 420 should be legalized. And am pro-life.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Aug 3, 2019

Does pro-life mean to never use abortion at all?

Aug 3, 2019

Google says pro-life is "opposing abortion and euthanasia".

Aug 5, 2019

As a male, I am pro-choice. I don't support abortion but I believe that every woman has to make that choice for herself because it is her body and her life. You're going to tell Becky to keep that baby and ruin her life even though she cannot support a child just because you believe that it's wrong? That's like all Beckys saying they're really against vasectomies or some shit like that and enforcing it on all of us even though it does not affect them.

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Aug 5, 2019

You are missing the point. Pro-lifers believe life begins at conception (there is no consistent point when pro-choicers believe life begins; and if it's only after birth, it is absurd, as 5 minutes before birth that child is no different). Because it's a life at the moment of conception, pro-lifers believe murder is worse than inconveniencing Becky for some number of months.

Aug 5, 2019
studmonkey:

You're going to tell Becky to keep that baby and ruin her life

This is where you are wrong. Ruin her life? What are you talking about? You can't say that with any kind of surety.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Aug 3, 2019

Fiscal conservative. Moderate Social Liberal.

Pro free market. Less regulations. Lower taxes.

Pro Gay marriage. Pro Choice. Legalize Weed. Pro death penalty. Very Pro gun. Anti Immigration.

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Aug 3, 2019

The terms you brought up were extremely helpful. I think I see where you are coming from especially after doing some research.
I would like to hear more about your views on guns, coming from a place where I never really get to see any guns, I do feel threatened when I hear news about mass shootings. Can you elaborate a little more on that and help me understand?

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Aug 4, 2019

I need to stop clicking on these threads

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Aug 8, 2019

I feel like (and hope) your political leanings define our generation. Social liberals and fiscal conservatives. Most rational people I talk to in this generation agree with this for the most part. Unfortunately neither political party really encompasses this view. Feel free to disagree, but I feel like Trump is somewhat socially liberal. We all know he's not a hardcore Christian. He's never had an issue with gays and has called himself pro-choice in the past. I feel like he's at least more socially liberal than any of the democrats are fiscally conservative.

Aug 3, 2019

I'm moderate. I also think that anyone that fits perfectly within a certain party doesn't think for themselves.

Aug 3, 2019

Then what makes you vote for a candidate when there are only two options to choose from? Why did you vote for a particular candidate in the last presidential election?

Aug 3, 2019

PIck the candidate with more common sense (at least for 2020).

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Aug 4, 2019

Probably too incendiary...

Aug 4, 2019

Probably too incendiary...

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Aug 5, 2019

Moderate. Was firmly conservative before but I find myself becoming more and more liberal since I moved away from my small town and made friends who weren't of the same ethnicity as me. I've noticed a similar trend with other conservative friends who've also moved to bigger cities. They've tended to become much more liberal the longer they've been exposed to people of different backgrounds.

I think the biggest issue with US conservatism today is that it's often based on fear or mistrust of "the other" (minorities, gays, people of a different religion, immigrants or whoever else it might be), and a big part of that is lack of meaningful exposure to different social groups. I'd bet most conservatives and forever-Republican voters on this site grew up around mostly white people, often of a similar socioeconomic status.

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Aug 5, 2019

I don't think you're wrong, but I do think there are other factors than "moving to big cities." I'm a conservative, but when I moved to Boston, I wasn't allowed to have any conversation that disagreed with Liberal points of view. Literally. I wasn't even allowed to state my opinion without being labeled a bigot, so I just stopped. I think most conservatives find that liberals are just as close-minded as their counterparts across the aisle. You learn, especially on a college campus, what is worth the time and effort and what is not. To be honest, there are a lot of closet conservatives in Boston and other major cities. We just don't find the hassle worth it when we can just vote in the box and move on with our days just like liberals in the South I'm sure.

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Aug 5, 2019

I think your point aligns with this article that made me question the political landscape in the US.
Tldr: Conservatives in liberal Silicon Valley are pushing back because they feel like their opinions are not being heard.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowit...

Aug 5, 2019

I consider myself a moderate. I always felt more conservative compared to my peers growing up in the northeast and now feel more liberal compared to my peers living in the south.

Problem is, plenty of people who aren't moderates consider themselves one.

Aug 5, 2019

Rockefeller Republican

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

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Aug 5, 2019

Conservative.

  • Pro-Choice (only in first 8 weeks or so)
  • Pro-Gun
  • Small Government
  • Healthcare needs fixing but there's not a reasonable approach out there
  • Anti-Illegal immigration; bring in more highly-skilled labor (fine) but open boarders (nah)
Aug 5, 2019

I lean conservative on economic issues, but since there isn't a conservative political party in the United States anymore, I have to vote on social issues, so I am voting Democrat for the foreseeable future.

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Aug 6, 2019

The Tea Party took the conservatives and turned up the crazy to 11.

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Aug 8, 2019
justphresh:

The Tea Party took the conservatives and turned up the crazy to 11.

Not really. The Tea Party took conservatives and exposed the real man behind the curtains. Fiscal conservatism was and is a myth. "Conservatives" aren't interested in small government or balanced budgets or anything like that. They're interested in corporate giveaways and big government for their constituents. In other words, hypocritical Democrats. With a massive dose of race baiting and white supremacy leavened into the mix to win the votes of people who would have qualified as Dixiecrats 75 years ago.

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Aug 5, 2019

Expand your understanding of the political compass first, the two party system is toxic as fuck
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Aug 5, 2019

Thanks for the link, here's my result. This explains my unhappiness in general with the current political system we have...

https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcomp... https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcomp...

Aug 5, 2019

hell yeah, im much further right economically and about the same libertarian wise.

Aug 5, 2019

Don't bring up politics at work

Aug 5, 2019

Anarchist,

Just want to watch the world fall apart,

Maybe then and only then can we put it back together and make it better..

Aug 5, 2019

I'm an anarchist because I hate roads!!! seriously though, crush the state

Aug 5, 2019

Progressive (but don't fit the box completely)

Pro 80% estate tax on every dollar over $50 million
Pro choice up to third trimester
Pro all drug legalization
Pro phasing out all fossil fuels by 2030 (but not pro Green New Deal as it is too complex and all encompassing)
Pro same sex marriage
Pro Death penalty
Pro strict separation of church and state
Pro $15 min wage
Pro federally mandated (3 months?) maternity / paternity leave
Pro Medicare for all
Pro path to citizenship for DACA
Anti military spending
Anti semi automatic gun ownership
Anti private prisons
Anti forced prison labor
Anti student loan forgiveness
Anti corporate spending on elections (overturn Citizens United)
Anti electoral college

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Aug 6, 2019

I am only pro $15 min wage at the company level - NOT government imposed.

Does inflation mean nothing to you?!

Aug 6, 2019
TooMuchLeverage:

I am only pro $15 min wage at the company level - NOT government imposed.

Does inflation mean nothing to you?!

I'm not for or against it, but "only at the company level" means it isn't a minimum wage, it's a chosen wage.

Aug 6, 2019

It's not just about inflation - higher minimum wage kills small business growth and raises unemployment or lowers workforce participation (American unemployment statistics are 1984 level lies at this point). The truth is that some people's labor is not worth minimum wage - they must get experience and skills first, and that may only be possible by working for less.

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Aug 6, 2019

$15 minimum wage is beyond ridiculous. How small businesses in low cost of living areas are supposed to be able to pay for that is mind boggling. Just shows how out of touch the coasts are.

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Aug 6, 2019

Why is it the coasts who are "out of touch?"

Who made rural nowhere "the real America?"

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Aug 8, 2019

They won't be able to compete. A universal $15 minimum wage will kill small business while large corporations with the CapEx budget to push increased automation will replace humans with technology and replace full-time workers with part-time workers.

The intention of a minimum wage is a good one, but is poorly thought out and will not have the positive benefits people think it will.

Strangely, the same people who push for a $15 minimum wage also encourage unlimited immigration into the United States which pushes labor supply up and market wage rates down. It's almost as if they don't really care about workers but instead despise white conservatives.

Aug 8, 2019

jesus do you have autism

Aug 8, 2019

nah

Aug 5, 2019

Most smart people I know disdain simplistic labels. some of these responses are lolzy.

as far as public policy, i'm an anti-idiocy, pro-rationality extremist. i share and utterly despise parts of both major party platforms.

Aug 6, 2019

If i had to set myself into a group i would say I am a right leaning libertarian. I used to be as left as it gets but the left went way to far off the deep end. So what used to be considered a lefty is now most likely considered moderate.

Pro weed, Pro Choice, Pro free market capitalism, pro SMALL GOVERNMENT

Anti Bernie

Aug 6, 2019

Conservatives = idiots
Liberals = idiots

Moderate = True, red blooded American patriots, some might even say heroes.

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