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Only thing that can keep you sane.
Nothing better than clanging iron in the Nox after a long day
If a gains falls in the forest and nobody sees the gains, do the gains even exist?
Gains are simply in the eyes of the beholder.
gains fall + nobody sees gains = Gains def do not exist.
It's all mental. You had gains before people gave you compliments. Not all achievements are easily seen by passive onlookers. As long as you do the work--faithfully and unadulterated--you have the great powers of gains.
i dont follow a traditional lifting schedule anymore. stick to bodyweight workouts and kettlebells and sprints/row/air bike for cardio
very similar for myself. I like sled pushes too, battle ropes, and steel maces. I swim too sometimes. I got up to 244lbs ~17%BF in my bodybuilding days. It was a terrible lifestyle and I felt terrible. All I have to show for it is stretch marks. I don't miss it. I feel great now doing what I'm doing. I maintain a really lean 165/170ish these days. Adding mass is always alluring and I'll start using a weight vest sometimes and putting on some mass, but my back starts to feel worse and I stop (I have a bunch of back and joint problems that started when I was a kid.) I like the olympic rings a lot too. And I can do everything except the sled pushes, swimming, and sauna at home. When my membership expires, I'm putting a stretch of astroturf with a sled in my yard and getting an outdoor sauna. I'll eventually get one of those pools that blows water so you can swim in place forever but that's not money I want to drop yet.
Also BJJ and archery. I work from home and have a standing desk and a bosu ball chair, saddle chair, balance board and try to move around a lot - preferably barefoot or in vibrams. I try to take a ~45 min walk through the park shirtless every day. I'm reading Becoming A Supple Leopard now and trying to incorporate a lot more mobility work. My forearms got to a point they were so tight it would hurt a little to pick up a grocery bag and then I kept going and got tendinitis and decided to take a few weeks off. Calves and tibulus were super tight too and I started getting shin splints. So just decided to take a few weeks off and do mobility and increase collagen intake. I think my routine would produce a lot more muscle as it is, but I eat in a very compressed window (usually once a day, low-ish calorie, pretty low protein, and use a lot of stimulants.
yea big fan of the sled pushes, weight vest, and olympic rings too
60-90 minutes in the gym can be the sole differentiating factor between sanity and completely losing it. Get in the gym and take care of your health.
Started lifting after realizing the office life is giving me a beer belly. 4-5 months in with decent progress and overloading with cleaner, lean bulk diet. We're all gonna make it brahs.
i stopped lifting, but i swim for 90 min a day which helps
Regardless of what you all are doing day-in and day-out, do something for yourself. My attitude towards staying late in the office and IBD changes drastically knowing that I've done something for myself each day.
I used to be far more into it than I currently am. Squat was over 600. Deads in the 400s. Bench was 315 for reps.
I'm 30+ though and after back and knee surgery in my youth I just kept breaking down. After a couple of 6 months on, hurt myself, 6 months off getting fat, I don't mess with heavy shit anymore. I don't put anything over 185 on my back and I don't go much higher than 225 on bench.
Trying to get more into cardio but good lord is it boring. Sprints aren't terrible and rec soccer is fun though.
You should take up a martial art or do boxing.
Boxed during college and now have been doing BJJ for the past 2.5 years. Love it.
where do you BJJ in the city?
how would you qualify a legit BJJ instructor?
Hah, with my goal of preventing injuries? Hard pass.
For cardio since I only have treadmills to run on I get super bored, so I tend to do a body weight routine between every mile. E.g. Run 1 mile, do 25 body weight squats - 4 sets of push ups till failure - 25 burpees - 3 sets of an abs. Keeps me at least mildly entertained through cardio sessions.
podcasts?
For a number of years I did a lot of endurance running and triathlons. I will tell you there is rarely anything that can keep your mind off the grueling miles but podcasts (as mentioned above) are a decent option. Sometimes I find the only way to really forget about the endless miles is to just think about how happy you will be when your done, ha.
I'll have to try that. Thanks!
That is good for cardio
I was a starter in highschool football and played on the soccer practice squad in college. I guarantee you that soccer is better cardio than football.
You could squat 600+ but couldn't crack 500 on the deadlift? Do you have a mile-long torso and t-rex arms? Do you weigh 400 lbs and literally cannot grab the bar?
At a certain point, lifts are form and technique. When I was pushing that kind of weight around, I was doing bench, squats, and power cleans. Didn't train deads until later. I do have a long torso and shorter arms, I suppose, but it was just never a point of emphasis.
Very impressive numbers dude. My max bench is 310 and I cannot wait to finally get 315 and see the three plates go up.
That's still really good if you don't weigh 250+ lbs. I got three plates up and pretty much quit bench pressing. Great to say I got it, but honestly bench press is an overrated technique for functional strength. Standing military press, dips, and high-pulls are superior.
I feel the same way about cardio, so I'd recommend jump roping, find it less boring than running etc.
double unders are great, unless you tear your meniscus doing them like I did. That is no fun.
One other item to note. If you only have 15-30 minutes between dinner and flipping MD deck comments, I highly suggest HIIT training. It's as simple as 30 seconds on 6.0 and 30 seconds on 10.0 for 15-30 minutes. Very effective at increasing your metabolic rate.
I think everyone knows how effective it is at this point. They just really really suck if done right and people are scared. Also, different intervals and rest times have very different benefits. For example, something like 30 sec on with 4 min rest is great for increasing mitochondrial density. Whereas something like 15 on 45 rest is great for cardio and overall organ reserve. I literally get anxiety the day before my sled sprint workout in anticipation of suffering.
Just wear an extra t-shirt under your dress shirt and SAY that you lift.
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The only thing worse than squatting is not squatting
Or a hernia because you tried to squat too much.
That's the kind of thing someone who doesn't squat enough would say
Lift every morning before work. Bi-muscle splits 5 days a week for the most part. Also just graduated from college wrestling so volunteer/help beat up some HS kids after work to give back to the community
Has anyone tried P90X or Insanity or some other type of interval workout before? And if so, what kind of results can you actually get from those programs. I'm sick of the typical gym routine so i'm looking for something different.
Anything will work if you actually do it. And diet is still the biggest factor by far imo
Insanity is the truth. In grad school a buddy and I did it for several weeks and got very good results. But running in place, doing push-ups, and squats for 45 minutes every day tend to do that.
Recently I've been doing the workouts from Mark Divine's book '8 Weeks to SEAL Fit.' It's a lot of body weight moves and will get a good sweat going.
Diet is the real key though. Obviously there are strongman competitors and the like that eat everything they can get their hands on, but for the other 99.9 percent of us the diet is the biggest part.
8 count body builders are probably in there. They are great.
Been doing powerlifting/strength training basically since I started working, and wouldn't give it up for anything. Got up to a 450/370/525 sq/bp/dl in the gym, but now decided to focus on getting a 400+ bench over the next ~8 months or so just to get it off the bucket list and hopefully get those 4 wheels up.
far and away the best "increase your bench" protocol I've come across. good for those of us who've done the starting strength thing but are hitting a plateau
http://muscleandbrawn.com/ohio-state-buckeye-workout-chart/
sent this to several bros and all have meaningfully increased their PR
happy chest days
Crossfit 2-3x week and Compound exercises 2x a week. Am considering a spin class. Anybody have any experience with Spinning?
If you are doing crossfit/HIIT 2-3x a week and doing heavy compound lifting I would honestly skip the spinning. Unless you are eating a metric fuckton, you are just working against yourself and likely won't see the results from your lifting and ultimately just end up looking skinny.
Yeah I'm a slim guy so you have a point with the spinning. I do like conditioning which is the reason for Spinning. However, you're right Spinning may be overdoing it.
I do. I went to the soulcycle at bryant park for a little while cause I was trying to fuck this girl at JPMorgan. alas, she didn't want it, so it's back to the normal bro split + heavy bag (which is great for blue balls btw).
cycling is a waste of money, it's cool to meet people but your overall physique is lacking. women don't want to grab onto a guys quads or know his favorite peloton courses. they want washboard abs, big shoulders and arms, the fuck me V where the legs join the hips, and good posture. cycling gives you none of that.
I should've just stuck to trolling hot yoga studios
This is hilarious. Reminds me of when I took yoga in college. I was the overgrown ex-lineman around a bunch of hotties. Was awesome until I whiffed on the chick I made a move on - went one way and should have gone the other way. Other chick who I was chatting up saw it and looks upset. She was an ex-dancer too - dumbass...
I cycle....
And BJJ Muay Thai, Surf, Snowboard, Skateboard, Run, Swim, etc etc etc
I look jacked
Come at me bro....
As for shoulders, I'm 176 and can still one arm Arnold press 70lbs a few times
For all looking to get big, this guy is the ultimate guru.
https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-Basic-Barbell-Training/dp/0982…
$30 fuckin bucks for that book? Know anywhere else to get it cheaper?
thriftbooks.com
Been running GZCL Jacked & Tan as my lifting program. Hit a 1,025 total (S/B/D of 315/245/465) before cutting down from 203 to 193 lbs.
Goal is to rep a 3 plate squat and 2 plate bench for 6 by the end of the year. Part of me just wants to train bodybuilding style though because lifting at intensity is so draining.
I've run gzcl before and had great results. I ran "The Rippler". Pretty sure my bench went up 25+
I don't work at an investment bank or live in NYC anymore, but when I did I had a personal trainer I'd see twice a week and we'd do lifting. Not only did I get buff, but he enjoyed listening to the stories of my crazy ass boss.
i lift 3-4x a week and run the days i don't lift. i'm a lot smaller a weaker than i was in college which is a little demotivating but what the heck, i do the best i can in the time i have. keeps my mind right more than anything else.
I'm recommending anybody with tightness, pain, mobility issues, or who just wants to move optimally read this. It's considered the mobility bible by many: ![https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NDeul7VQL._SX258_BO1…] [https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NDeul7VQL._SX258_BO1… https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NDeul7VQL._SX258_BO1…
I know nothing about this book, but the only modalities the work for mobility issues(the root cause of pain and tightness) are active release therapy, muscle activation technique, and possibly posturology. Stretching never works.
But Kelly Starrett is one of the few people in exercise science who knows what he talking about.
Can confirm.
I'm working diligently on losing weight while gaining strength. Down 20 lbs since I started lifting again and making steady progress on the major lifts. I know my progress in the gym has been slowed down by cutting but I really want to not be so rotund anymore. I'm using a four day 5/3/1 layout for the major lifts with sensible accessories progressing in volume over each 3 week cycle. It's very tempting to stop cutting though.
Absolutely. Intensity is all you need a good 45 mins-1 hour of lifting keeps you chugging along and feeling like a million bucks
kettlebell 1H clean vs snatch?
yo isn't it really fucking astounding how strong human beings can get? like we can figure out rockets and also do this shit? wow we are crazy animals ![https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmiIi65YIi8/maxresdefault.jpg][https://i.ytimg.c…]
It's definitely astounding that Brian Shaw can pull that amount of weight with technique that looks so inefficient vs. the textbook deadlift form most places teach. Such a beast.
How big do you think his arms are? I wonder what it feels like to be him. Like, there's no way he feels good. Ever. I'm sure he gets deep tissue work daily and shit but dude he is just one big, constantly-full ball of knots
seven days a week / 30 - 45 min. right in the morning.
Only work 65 hours on avg. though
Lifting before work for those in S&T (Originally Posted: 06/06/2015)
I'll be starting work soon as an analyst and wanted to get some insight from anyone who lifts or workouts before work doing S&T at a BB...
What time do you usually wake up and get to the office? Do you eat anything before working out?
I'm pretty big into lifting, specifically power lifting... I tried last summer going after work and that ended up being a disaster... If I did manage to get myself to the gym, it'd be a lackluster workout from being too tired...
Just FYI your blood circulation is best (i.e. best lifting result) around 4pm - 8pm, which is ideal for market people since it's after the close. I tried lifting at 5.30am for a while before going to classes, that turned out for me to be an even greater disaster than in the evening.
But just as an advice, if you're working on Wall Street, forget about breaking your own olympic records year by year - the work is too draining for that (speaking from own internship experiences...). But keep lifting is still the best thing you can do, just for your personal fitness.
Cardio in the morning.
Lift in the evening.
As someone who did a S&T internship, I would recommend running in the morning and then lifting in the afternoon as said above. It makes a lot of sense, and you would probably lift more after your blood is flowing. Bring an energy drink if you are really drained.
When i worked on the sell side I tried lifting before work (5:45-6:45) and a) i couldnt lift nearly as heavy as in the afternoon and b) after a couple weeks i really started to feel at work (i.e. blanking on things, needing to go to the bathroom to close my eyes etc). But then again i am really not a morning person.
I found going after work and taking a pre workout was the best thing.
Do you already know what type of desk you will be joining ? Will you be in sales or trading ?
Not S&T but I'm a senior guy who's been both working and working out a lot for years. My conclusion is that it's best just to go in the AM before work. I've tried to go after work, or go at lunch (like I said, not a markets guy) or tried after work (and like I said, I'm not a junior guy so there is an after work for me...) and if you don't just do it first thing in the morning, you will get busy or make excuses to not go later in the day. And like you said, you're beat by then and even if your muscles, tendons and ligaments my be looser and your energy should be higher by then, you just won't have the energy. And most importantly, you just won't go. If your routine is to get up ridiculously early and go and that becomes your routine for years, it will be part of your life. It's too much to think you're going to do cardio in the AM and lift later in the day. You may be able to keep that up for a short amount of time but it's about the long term when you start working full time. Half of it life is just showing up.
I get up around 4:00, do a protein smoothie with some fruit, chug an iced coffee (keep it in your fridge) and chug some water. I start out with 10 or 15 mins of cardio to get the blood flowing, do a few extra warm up sets and make sure I stretch. I also don't take as much time between sets and cram in a workout in a shorter amount of time and get some cardio benefit out of that. Then I eat a real egg breakfast after working out and I need a couple of snacks/protein shakes throughout the AM. I know someone else said it made them tired but this routine actually gives me energy. I'm not a powerlifter, although I've lifted heavy at different points of my life, so I don't know how that effects the actual workout. And don't get too drunk on the weekends so you can do your heavier days on the weekends.
For sure before! Guilt free beer tastes better than "i was meant to go to gym" beer.
I've also found that lifting before work is optimal. I'm on the west coast and need to be in the office at about 6am every day. I get to the gym at 430am, lift for an hour, and then get changed and hit the desk. It's great because it wakes you up and gets you ready to start your day off right. Nothing like a workout high, amiright? I only start feeling tired around lunch, where I have some coffee and power through to the end of the day. After work, I hit the beach and do my cardio runs there (SoCal perks). It's the best strategy and ensures that you don't have much room for excuses later in the day, like being too tired, your buddies want to go to happy hour, etc.
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