In all honesty, I kinda think she is innocent. She tried to talk it out of him many times but she broke because she was under anti depressants. Conrad was kinda being emotionally abusive in his texts, your thoughts?
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no doubt guilty in my mind
guilty. Those texts were chilling. I can't believe some of the stuff she said.
100% guilty. Most people who are acutely suicidal are extremely vulnerable and often malleable into believing the worst.
I hate it when lawyers blame medication or mental illness on people who may be mentally ill but still know what's going on and are sane enough to have a standard moral compass. She clearly was not experiencing mania or associated psychosis, which is the main bad reaction that makes people behave unlike themselves. Makes everything all the worse for people who actually should be pleading guilty by insanity.
100% innocent. It's a legal fact that malicious speech cannot constitute violence and yet she was convicted of manslaughter through her text messages. Those two facts are incongruent. Hateful speech is a first amendment protection that only has very small carve outs as criminal and all of them are literal threats of violence and inciting violence, neither of which fit the bill here. In MA specifically they have never held that convincing someone to commit suicide is itself a crime, so this is a first that goes away from all prior criminal law. In context it's even worse because she spent months, even years, trying to convince him to get help and not do it, with her tone only changing at the end.
Quite frankly, I would put it at a near certainty this gets overturned on appeal. She'll likely get time served then for something like a harassment charge. It's not to say that I'm in any way defending what she did, but calling it manslaughter is completely out of legal precedent, especially in MA, and provides a large driveway for anti first amendment overreach and abuse. The argument simply can't be about the morality of what she did, because that's not the issue, it's the legality of it. And she undoubtedly, according to all legal precedent, did not commit manslaughter.
She is guilty. She was just sentenced. No real wiggle room on that.
Should she have been? I don't know. How do you convict one person with poor mental health for taking advantage of another person with poor mental health?
There are all sorts of weird subcultures on the internet - pro-anorexia, pro-obesity, pro-child porn, and yes, pro-suicide. How do you police that? If a 400lb woman tells a 300lb woman that she's beautiful and doesn't need to lose weight and they tell each other than they're completely healthy and then one of them dies of a heart attack brought on from obesity is the other guilty as well?
She needs put away, but I don't know if jail is the right place for her. A mental hospital sounds far more fitting, but then again, I'm neither a doctor or a lawyer.
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