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Feb 15, 2013

My MD's Morman...

Feb 15, 2013

My MD's a Morwoman.

Feb 15, 2013
westsidewolf1989:

My MD's a Morwoman.

HAH

Feb 15, 2013

I don't drink (at all) and it has never been a problem.

Feb 15, 2013

Too much Mad Men

Feb 15, 2013

grow some nads. you choose your level. of course they're going to test you and maybe haze you and maybe initiate you, etcetera. but if you stand your ground in a tactful way that doesn't get you fired for the most ludicrous reason ever, you'll gain higher respect for it.

"Everything comes to those who hustle while they wait."
-Thomas Edison

Feb 15, 2013

There's dozens of ways for people go out with the drinkers and look like they're getting bombed with everyone while keeping it pretty tidy. So if you just don't like getting drunk, there's ways around it. If it's religeous, just tell them that, of course there are some dicks out there, but most people either don't care or respect you for it.

That said, sometimes getting bombed with co-workers is the best bonding experience, and it cuts both ways. I skipped out on a binge with the guys to see a girl friend, six months later they were still telling inside jokes from that night, it was a shame to have missed it and I was out of the loop for a while. Conversly, I went with a partner and a lawyer for lunch and the partner got old man drunk, really shamed himself and puked on the first cab we tried to put him into, couldn't look him in the eyes for a week or so after that.

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Feb 15, 2013
overpaid_overworked:

There's dozens of ways for people go out with the drinkers and look like they're getting bombed with everyone while keeping it pretty tidy. So if you just don't like getting drunk, there's ways around it. If it's religeous, just tell them that, of course there are some dicks out there, but most people either don't care or respect you for it.

That said, sometimes getting bombed with co-workers is the best bonding experience, and it cuts both ways. I skipped out on a binge with the guys to see a girl friend, six months later they were still telling inside jokes from that night, it was a shame to have missed it and I was out of the loop for a while. Conversly, I went with a partner and a lawyer for lunch and the partner got old man drunk, really shamed himself and puked on the first cab we tried to put him into, couldn't look him in the eyes for a week or so after that.

you know you'll have a pretty decent bonus when...

Feb 15, 2013

It's pretty important to be able to handle it. You don't want to that drunk idiot at the Christmas party.

Feb 15, 2013

Sirtradesalot, we tend to hang out in the same places.... Get back to work.

That said, funny story time. I know a girl who's been nicknamed 'donebeforedinnergirl' in her company because after three company Christmas parties, she still hasn't lasted until dinner before getting put in a cab.

Feb 15, 2013

Being able to drink a lot isn't important at all.

Being able to remain composed with what you DO choose to drink is hugely important.

If you don't drink at all it might be a little awkward and difficult to explain at times, but it's not a dealbreaker. Plenty of extremely successful people that abstain from alcohol.

Feb 15, 2013

Backing up MFFL, don't pull a Farva circa Super Troopers: "I'll have six schlitze please, open bar man!"

Feb 15, 2013

thanks everyone, i appreciate the comments. i do drink just not as much as others.

Feb 19, 2013

Depending on who I am with at the bar after a few I start switching over to tonic water. Everyone is usually too bombed to notice anyway....

Feb 19, 2013

it's not always about being able to drink like a fish, but always about how you handle yourself when you're loaded.

Never out drunk your client on an outing. Clients are relying on you to be the guardian on a drunken night to keep them from doing shit that will get them fired or divorced while being drunk.

Feb 19, 2013

Why bother worrying about this when you won't even have the time or energy to drink. The only time you'll ever drink with colleagues are at the holiday party or once a blue moon. Trust me you'd rather sleep then go out and suffer the next day. And drinking with clients? Let's be realistic it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

Feb 19, 2013
banker00:

Why bother worrying about this when you won't even have the time or energy to drink. The only time you'll ever drink with colleagues are at the holiday party or once a blue moon. Trust me you'd rather sleep then go out and suffer the next day. And drinking with clients? Let's be realistic it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

eff that shit

Feb 19, 2013

Gotta have composure, besides that don't worry about it.

Feb 19, 2013

It is just about being able to handle it. However, in the broey culture of many IBs, a lot of time it is part of the requirements. Keep that in mind.

Feb 19, 2013

I don't think it's that big of a deal. If you don't drink at all and it's not for religious reasons, then yeah people might think it's weird for whatever reasons they have. I'm not a heavy drinker for the most part (although there are times when I'll go all out like for holidays, etc.) and avoid it primarily for health purposes, but when people want to go out, I'll only order 1-2 drinks and down them slowly throughout the course of the night. Most people don't even notice/call you out on it because they're too gone by that time.

Feb 19, 2013

not that big of a deal...if you can shot the shit and take a joke you will be fine.

Feb 19, 2013

Try cranberry juice. Or Cranapple.

Feb 19, 2013

Had an interview 3-4 years ago when I was looking to switch jobs at the Duke's hotel in London (where Ian Fleming decided that his charcater would be a martini drinker). Had two of their drinks, they don't serve you more than 3 or you'll be too drunk.
In this situation if you don't drink or don't handle your drink well, you most likely won't impress your interviewer a lot...
In the s&t culture it's very prevalent, you just do; someone said clients count on you to put them in the cab. That's a load of bull shit, the client counts on you for paying for the drinks, having a good time; and if you disapear that's life, but this time he will be too drunk to remember who he is.

That said, I am getting ready for a triathlon/ half marathon etc... all the time... So I just tell the guys sorry won't drink as getting fit. As long as you do it occasionally they won't think you are a bore. And if you really can't take your alcohol you can be sneaky about it - I just go to the pisser and pour half of my pint in the loo, very useful when you are doing rounds with the lads... (Thank God this forum is anonymous or I would get my testicles removed for saying something like that...) You don't have to get sloshed, do it when you are young, but I like to keep it together in work events (when it's just me and a client and we are on a mission that's different :))

M&A? No idea, but some of my best mates are doing banking and thye are all raging alcoholics when they are going out.

Feb 19, 2013

If they attempted to fire you for not drinking, could you file a wrongful termination lawsuit?

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Feb 19, 2013
determined_m-effer:

If they attempted to fire you for not drinking, could you file a wrongful termination lawsuit?

what does this even mean? they won't attempt to fire you for not drinking... what world do you live in?

10 points from Hufflepuff

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Feb 19, 2013

It's fine if you don't drink as long as you don't try and act like a moral puritan about it.

It's fine if you do drink as long as you can hold your shit together.

If you don't fall into one of these buckets, you're doing it wrong.

I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

Feb 19, 2013

Never drink more then you can handle. That's just obvious. I think embarrassingly overdoing it is much worse then not drinking at all. You're just a dick if you force people to drink. Last time I checked, bonus is not linked to alcohol consumption.

'Corruption? Corruption is government intrusion into market efficiencies in the form of regulations. That's Milton Friedman. He got a goddamn Nobel Prize.'

Feb 20, 2013

Just stick to the same drink throughout the night and you will be Ok. Of course everyone has his own limits, but one way or another, if you limit yourself to, say, 4 or 5 pints of Guiness per night, you will be fine 100% of the time. To be able to drink materially more than 5 beers and remain fit, you need practice, though - and it is usually difficult for americans (provided your legislation prohibits drinking till 21, so analysts have really limited experience compared to peers in normal countries, where they drink as they please)

Feb 20, 2013
Ivan:

Your legislation prohibits drinking till 21, so analysts have really limited experience compared to peers in normal countries, where they drink as they please)

L o l

Feb 20, 2013
Ivan:

To be able to drink materially more than 5 beers and remain fit, you need practice, though - and it is usually difficult for americans (provided your legislation prohibits drinking till 21, so analysts have really limited experience compared to peers in normal countries, where they drink as they please)

Did you go to college in America? If what I've been doing is practice, I must have been unknowingly training for the alcoholic equivalent of the Ironman.

Feb 20, 2013

I used to think I was talented at drinking, then I met securities lawyers... Damn near killed me. That said, doing my MBA got me back into prime conditioning.

To the guy that asked if they could fire you for being a shitty drinker: Let's be fair, If an MD's wife calls out your name during sex they can fire you. They can fire you for anything, they just can't say that's why they fired you. Grab random fifteen excuses to fire you without severance, you'll probably be guilty of ten of them, one of them could be that you're just not fitting in with the team. And... if they are willing to pay severence, they don't even have to give you a reason, just cut you cheque and kick your ass out.

Feb 21, 2013
overpaid_overworked:

They can fire you for anything, they just can't say that's why they fired you.

In some countries, they can't :)

Feb 20, 2013
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