Email Etiquette
If someone says they'll get back to you on something, do you say "Received" or just leave it at that? I'm leaning toward thinking replying would be redundant, but wanted to check with those who have been in a role for a few years.
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You must be retarded
Unless you have met this person f2f, you will not figure it out.
He could be a master salesman, has skills you can't see or, he simply knew someone who juiced him in. Also, consultancies are all about a mixed group of consultants. While your degree is very important they don't hire exclusively from Ivy's. Rutgers grads can absolutely make it into MBBs.
Who knows. And who cares.
Exquisite, and nothing more to add. … unless @Corporate Raider" gives the right hint: go ask him over linkedin: "let us know how it goes..." Baaam!!
Silly goose, his dad's Chadington Hemingsworth. Its all about who you know not what you know
Received sounds a bit robotic. Simply just say thank you/thanks. Shows you took account of the message
Turns our his Dad is CFO for a software solutions company traded on NASDAQ so maybe that was it but can't imagine Mckinsey hiring someone like that just to get clients
It happens trust me. I work at a BB / EB and we have a few kids who don't have even have 3.3s
think about it. a BA that gives you an extra 25% chance of landing a contract with your dad’s or dad’s friends or whomevers company with fees of $20mil = worth more than the super smart BA that statistically wont make Engagement manager with you.
That might be a non-consulting position? Not sure about McKinsey, but at Bain anyone in an actual consulting position has 'consultant' in their title. I know a very unimpressive kid who worked in some BS biz dev position within Bain and I know the recruiting process for that was very different compared to consulting positions.
If they’ve been in the role for a few years, you need to show respect. A typical reply would be:
“Affirmative Sir. I acknowledge your message as received and await your response.”
Hope this helps mate. Best of luck.
I thought about that too cuz Mck has Bs positions like "Knowledge analyst" or "Data Analyst" but it says "Business Analyst" which is their Undergrad consulting position
Haha...
Well, should have been more clear, but I meant "wanted to check with a WSO user with a few years experience in a role on what the best way to reply would be"
Ha. Your indignation amuses me.
Just be happy with the fact that you now have 1 less email to chase up and it won't be entirely your fault. But, then again, it may be your last email ever.
Thanks for the useless comments everyone. I guess you're implying that it doesn't really matter. It was an honest question though--I haven't been in a corporate setting, and email doesn't have a built-in "Message Read" function, so I wanted to know what best practices are.
I'm sorry but why do you care so much? Oh no, someone from a solid state school broke into a firm that you believe should be reserved for those top pedigreed. Get your head out of your ass and focus on your own career and maybe you can make it to the spot they are, as clearly you're jealous
I'm more baffled than jealous tbh. I'm not saying people shouldn't get into MBB from state school if they have stellar qualifications but this screams "Big 4" consultant not MBB
lol how does it feel that a kid from Rutgers beat you
exactly this is born out of jealousy...good for the Rutgers kid. a lot of people at 'top targets' live in a bubble where they expect things to come to them because of the name of a school which reflects little else but academic ability... and before i get ms I go to one of the schools the OP mentioned
Rutgers
Depends on the context. Apply a bit of common sense.
If your boss send you an email asking you to do something. You should reply back and say something along the lines of. Well received, and will get back to you with this powerpoint by EOD.
If someone is just sending you email to update the team about markets, they are not expecting you to come back to say received. Unless you have spotted an error or have additional useful comments...to which you say 'I have just noticed this bullet point was missing Xyz...'
If your team has giving you a list of projects. You can say 'Thanks I will get on with these right away.'
It really all depends on what is the email? Whether you are expected to email anything back?
A good rule of thumb is if you are the direct recipient of the email and someone is requesting something off you, you should reply with some sort of ETA and set expectations.
Appreciate it.
The scenario was that I followed up with someone I had networked with, and they replied that they'll look into a particular question for me and will get back to me soon.
I didn't reply (I thought about sending: Thanks for doing that, really appreciate it, or something). Even though I thanked them in person later, thinking about it now I suppose it wouldn't have hurt to thank them by email as well.
I know this guy personally and he's an absolute animal. He would network and hustle day and night with consultants at McKinsey and they ate it up. Relavant experiences are important but its also about the story you tell and I remember he was GOOD at that... not saying this is the usual path to MBB consulting, but there are always loopholes and detours to anything - doesn't always have to be a black and white step by step into a position
nothing substantive to add (astros was right: it all depends on context of the situation/workplace/relationship with boss), but I just needed to say that I think it’s remarkably immature that people will go out of their way to shit on OP and leave useless and/or derisive comments to a genuine question. I must have forgotten that most of the users on here have never made a stupid mistake that could’ve been avoided by asking someone experienced for advice before acting....
posts asking for endless prestige rankings and trolling Tobin get bananas while this gets shit on? come on people.
He is BY FAR the grittiest person I've met - some RU kids hustle like animals
RU gang in the building! Back office gang!
On the next day as a subtle reminder you can say, "Sounds good and and looking forward to your thoughts." I sometimes send out confirmation emails when people have not paid for services, This serves a a subtle reminder that a payment is due Some times it works and some times it does not. If it does not work, I eventually send them a link for payment
Who cares
just say noted thanks or noted look forward to it.
Bro that kid not only made it himself but he is trying to help other people as well. Why are you so mad?
Dude I am not mad. Good for him and its definitely an accomplishment. I'm just confused cuz it's not very common to see people outside T15 undergrad at MBB.
I say "Received, thank you" when I get in legal docs or apps or whatever. Otherwise, you can assume I'll read it when I read it. Or not. Doesn't matter what you assume but I'm not wasting time replying.
On a similar note, I like "Will do"
don't know don't care plus you're being a little bitch
I fucking hate people who try to sound more formal that is necessary and trying to sound all cute and use corporate jargon and shit. Like relax shit you're allowed to just speak normal everyone knows you went to college
Bro I think you're the joke. It's pathetic how privileged some people are to come from families that have bought their kids a spot at a "top target"- "bought" in the sense of actual fraudulent contributions or "bought" in the sense that these kids come from much better backgrounds which makes going to a top target the next step in the process. Get a life
If asking for something a signoff of "Thanks, (Name)" seems appropriate. I run into issues where I got something in return and my natural instinct is to lead off with the "Thanks, John" because then I don't feel that I can use it again. My natural instinct is to use "Regards," when giving info or after beginning the email with "Thanks" but I've heard from Brits that they read this as "Fuck You." "Kind Regards" seems more normal there, but just sounds patronizing to me.
You are actually stupid asf. Good for this kid to make it from Rutgers. I am sorry your privileged ass couldn't get into McKinsey Mr. "Target School".
Have you ever thought about the possibility that this person just didn't fill out their LinkedIn? Have you seen his/her resume? In fact, I reccommend copying and pasting your exact message and send it to him/her over Linkedin, I'm sure he/she would be happy to respond. Let us know how it goes...
why are you so concerned about it lmao
Imagine being this bitter about someone else's success
Know this guy personally as well - he’s the best caser I’ve ever met, and put more work into the process than pretty much any other person from any target that I’ve seen. Coming from a non-target school and getting an offer like this is an order of magnitude MORE impressive than getting it from HYP. You being salty that you couldn’t hack it isn’t a reason to come out here and shit on him. Figure out your issues, your HYP degree doesn’t mean jack pal. Alternatively, cry harder! World does tend to be mad forgiving of Ivy Leaguers bitching about how they deserve more, so hey, shoot your shot!
Love that we're all coming together to hate on this fucking douchebag for being envious for no reason. Get a life guy.
I’m glad WSO finally found something it agrees about.
My name's Mathew Giladi. I'm the profile you're describing.
What you're saying makes sense. Health admin, personal trainer, small-time entrepreneur, none of these are compelling on their own. I had to strategically grow, and grow quickly, through hard work, help, and luck.
My parents are disabled and unemployed. They weren't the help I'm describing.
If you'd like to talk more, add me on LinkedIn. We'll set up a 1:1.
Props to you for landing the role. You sound like the type of talent McKinsey looks for in undergrads. Congrats man and good luck.
If this is actually you, please show this fucking loser off. Props bro, great SAT score and amazing GMAT. Great grind.
absolute beast dude, keep it up
I'm sorry, Ik I came off as an asshole but my question was more about HOW and not WHY you got that offer. It is the greatest accomplishment and it is certainly motivational. I'm sure you worked really hard to get where you are and I am not trying to undermine that. I apologize for being a massive dick. My intention was not to shit on your offer but merely get a sense of the possibility. Congrats on the offer and I am sure you'll be a great consultant!
I mean you were even trying to bring his dad into this..... I’m sure you had good intentions...... Jealous clown.
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn and send me your email. I'm hosting a workshop that describes my story and how others can do the same. I'd be happy to include you on the roster so you can hear about the how.
Also, I appreciate you clarifying your intentions. I'm sure many of the people here who were offended appreciate it, as well. Thank you.
Did you REALLY go through his Linkedin? As for me, it is quite an impressive profile IMHO.
I'm familiar with someone who my MBB hired in out of undergrad from a >100 ranked US News school (not even in the same state as the office). They had no connections or anything, just expressed interest to the right person, were exceptional, and killed the interviews. Our on-campus approach is a bit elitist, but we'd never say no to great talent who make their way to us. If you get the interview then unlike banking, nothing else much matters.
This guy sounds really weird
What a legend. Good on you, bro.
Mad respect man. Keep killing it.
If you’re going to go on an elitist tirade, at least construct proper sentences while doing so.
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your comment was funny. i laughed. then i saw your name. and laughed some more.
I literally scrolled through looking for this comment to turn up lmfao
"Decent GPA(3.7)" lol. Why hating on someone else grind?
Also his LinkedIn says 3.77 which I think most people would call a 3.8 over a 3.7 lol
I’ve never heard of a healthcare undergrad major but what are the chances it’s as soft as the humanities BS that half the HYP kids major in? Yale even has this one called EPE “Ethics Politics and Economics” LOL. Yeah I’ll take the healthcare kid, thanks.
Doc, it’s Rutgers. Please don’t compare NJ’s party school to the Ivy League.
Oooh Ivy League - popular phrase among the wannabe-HYP schools. So where’d you go, Cornell?
All I know is, I see some bullshit ass majors coming out of those places. If you’ve got a 4.0 at Harvard then fine, you can pull off that History major. But a 3.6 from the Cornell Hotel Academy or the UPenn State History Dept, don’t be surprised if some Rutgers kid eats your lunch.
Imagine hating so hard on someone else's success that you had to bitch and moan on the internet instead of bettering yourself.
Rutgers is complete ass at football
To be fair, that’s the entire northern US except that team in Columbus. They should just join the SEC so we can stop laboring under the delusion that the north competes in football.
Agree, but Rutgers is really, really, really bad. 2-10 for a flagship state school
Rutgers isn't bad. If this were Montclair State or some actually sh*t NJ college, then it would be confusing
There's a fucking virus going around that's going to kill 100k+ people in this country and you're seriously spending time thinking about this? Literally who cares dude.
you only need to be at a top school to be seen and get an interview. if you get referred and land an interview and you are good enough, it won’t matter where you went to school
Someones gotta ban Rutgers from this website. This is the most insane thread I've ever seen. I'm convinced this dweeb made the fake account that posted this thread (it's clearly a troll post) so he can comment under an account with his real name (weird?) just to promote his "workshop". So weird.
was honestly thinking the same. this whole thread is so weird. Who makes an account with their real name and then proceeds to invite everyone to his workshop? What even is that? Does everyone who gets a BB/MBB offer do workshops now?
you might be on to something here......
advanced marketing skills lmao
Yep. Congrats on the job, but man the kid’s certainly a geek-ball
Agreed. Something is off.
Two guys in this thread claiming to know him personally
Prospect in Other who praised him, leaving a reference to his "unique path":
"He would network and hustle day and night with consultants at McKinsey and they ate it up. Relevant experiences are important but its also about the story you tell and I remember he was GOOD at that... not saying this is the usual path to MBB consulting, but there are always loopholes and detours to anything - doesn't always have to be a black and white step by step into a position"
And a post by "Highinthesky98" Also claims to know the kid personally.. Praising him an extreme amount.
" Know this guy personally as well - he's the best caser I've ever met, and put more work into the process than pretty much any other person from any target that I've seen. Coming from a non-target school and getting an offer like this is an order of magnitude MORE impressive than getting it from HYP. You being salty that you couldn't hack it isn't a reason to come out here and shit on him. Figure out your issues, your HYP degree doesn't mean jack pal. Alternatively, cry harder! World does tend to be mad forgiving of Ivy Leaguers bitching about how they deserve more, so hey, shoot your shot!"
Lastly, this literally sounds like the beginning of a sales speech. "My name's Mathew Giladi. I'm the profile you're describing.
What you're saying makes sense. Health admin, personal trainer, small-time entrepreneur, none of these are compelling on their own. I had to strategically grow, and grow quickly, through hard work, help, and luck." Feel free to add me on LinkedIn and send me your email. I'm hosting a workshop that describes my story and how others can do the same. I'd be happy to include you on the roster so you can hear about the how."
This shit is extremely suspicious and should be deleted. Want to see something weird?
The OP's account is brand new and has never made a comment or post
The kid praising the linkedin kid has a brand new account and has never made a comment or post
The Linkedin kid has a brand new account and has never made a comment or post. Note: Why is his name on WSO his name in real life. Obvious attempt at becoming well known through this scandal of a post.
The other guy praising him has the most generic anonymous account that is possible. Hmm, it's almost like this was all planned and the accounts were created at the same time.
Nailed it bruv, absolutely ridiculous odds an undergrad simply browses a forum without posting random BS questions or offering advice he's unqualified to give. Gonna start posting standard garbage like "HEy do I have a chance at GS, 3.2 GPA non-target w/ a felony conviction?????" so that next time some elitist prick tries to dunk on a friend of mine, people will know I'm a real person. Appreciate the advice dog, you a real one!
Yeah, this is exactly right. Dude is a weird scammer who’s way too active on linkedin and WSO.
Another weird thing is the original post itself. Doubt anyone would take the time to shit talk a random
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This is up there in the rankings for worst post on this forum
So she left you for the Rutgers stud who not only maintained a great GPA, but also maintained his social life on top of networking. HA U MAD OR NAH??!!
Also, news flash kid we’re in the middle of a pandemic that has the probability of having a deadlier second wave. No one gives a fuck about your opinions of prestige. If your biggest concern right now is hating on someone else, just know that eventually those insecurities will be your downfall.
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