At the end of 2016, I attended a bulge bracket bank (GS, MS, JPM) presentation. I noted down the names of the bank's representatives and the contact information of the head of HR. I applied for an internship position, but didn't get it. Before and after I applied, I kept in touch with the head of HR over email. I had issued with my application, which resulted in me sending too many emails, which I think annoyed her (the replies were very unenthusiastic, if there were any). I then asked if it was too late to apply for another internship (it was), which showed how irresponsible I was.
This time, I want to email the MD to get him to push my resume for an internship position. After all, he has the most influence in the firm. I googled the MD's name and found out the MD is from the same city I am from, and also studied and worked abroad. I think I can use these points to connect with him. What should I include in my email and how do I include the points I mentioned? Thanks.
There is a chain of command my friend, no MD is gonna hop on the phone with a rando and zero experience. You need to start with the analysts, and if the call goes well, say you're very interested in learning more about the firm, and ask if they can refer you to someone. Then you do essentially the same thing with an associate (if you get this far), and continue to move your way up. Look up the thousands of networking guides on WSO or through Google, sounds like you do not understand the process whatsoever. Not trying to be a hardo, just to help you succeed. Good luck
So you think the MD will push your resume because he and you came from same city? Come on, man.
All you can do is to send an email and hope for the best. I'm sure there were literally thousands of kids before you who did the same and expected the same, and I don't think the MD would treat you any differently.
City to city migration in my country is rare because of economic and social reasons, but living abroad (the MD studied and started his career in London) is only left to the country's elite. I think he will be able to relate to me (I don't mean to sound pretentious) and I will mention how much he inspired me.
Considering he's the co-head of my city's office, I doubt he gets asked for his email a lot because students understand they will be redirected to HR or simply ignored if they do send the email. He doesn't even have a LinkedIn. I found his email and phone number on the bank's presentation when I did a google search of his name. I am very doubtful of thousands of kids doing the same and having a similar story to his, like me.
I was the only one in the presentation to ask the head of HR for her email, I doubt the MD gets asked more. If I do send the email, and he ignores it, I don't think it'll hurt my chances.
I'm a fan on going straight to the top. Hit up the MD. It could work.
Emailing a MD about an unpaid internship for the summer (Originally Posted: 03/29/2010)
I've got good grades, good GMAT, got my masters, passed level I of CFA and CAIA, and am still having no luck at getting jobs because I lack experience. I'm thinking of emailing some local investment firms about unpaid internships for the summer. What would be the best way of going about this.
An email with something like
Dear xxxxx,
I'm a graduate of xxx, and have been interested in your firm. Are there any available opportunities for summer employment?
Sincerely,
XXX
Or should I call them? Would that be better?
I wouldn't recommend that you outright sell yourself as an unpaid intern. This will make you look desperate and they'll start to question, "If this guy has got such a great resume and credentials, why can't he find a job? What's wrong with him?"
Don't sell yourself so low from the beginning.
I would recommend that you reach out to alumni and network with individuals for informal coffee or chat sessions. Meeting in person is much better than calling, calling is much better than cold-emailing, cold-emailing should be the last resort.
Be personable but knowledgeable about the business of each individuals that you meet. Then use these opportunities to get more referrals or intro-interviews into the firms you want to work for.
If you've never met this MD, he has nothing vested personally to help you. Plus a recommendation will do wonders to get your foot in the door.
I respectfully disagree with the above, if you're interested in the experience I think everyone would understand - working unpaid means you're working for the resume boost
Just put paid/unpaid. Working for free is fine, it will pay off in the future.
Worst case scenario, he won't reply. Emailing him is not going to hurt your chances, just make sure your email is concise with a subject line that'll get his attention (something like "Advice for your nationality student studying in London"). Best case scenario, he'll talk to you for a bit and either connects you with someone who can help you out later or he'll do it himself. Good luck!
Appropriate to Email MD? (Originally Posted: 03/26/2012)
I got put on hold for a internship at a BB. They personally called and said that they would let me know in april. I have emailed HR once so far (its been about two weeks). I plan to email HR again this week. A. should I be emailing HR more?? B. I feel like I connected with one of the MD's I interviewed with. I already emailed her after the interview thanking her. Can I email her more expressing my interest still, or am I better off with HR? She said that she wasnt there to interview for specific positions within her division, and that the company would decide where we would be placed
Not gonna lie to you, this really seems like the type of behavior typically exhibited by companies that are about to go bankrupt.
interesting point
You don't have anything to lose by reaching out to the MD. Let her know of your continuing interest and ask if she happens to know when you can expect to hear back, etc. It can't hurt you whatsoever to reach out once.
They already said they would let you know in April...give it a week, and email again a few days into April. They're not going to tell you anything new before that.
It worked for one of my friends back a few years ago when he was looking for SA, but that is with an alum, not a random interviewer.
He was told by HR at a BB that he was waitlisted. He then called the alum (MD level) the next day and explained the situation to him and also expressed how much he would appreciate it if he can get the spot. Alum told him that he would reach out to the HR.
He got the SA position one or two days later.
^^^ I cannot stress how important that is today, networking, especially if you're not at a target school or your resume isn't quite up to par. Looking up an alumnus on your career center website and then even blindly reaching out to him/her and introducing yourself can change everything if that person refers your name to HR.
Yeah, when you are on hold like that, while they are figuring out numbers there could also be other people on hold. When I was recruiting for full-time I was in a similar situation (in the fall of course). HR just kept saying show interest, so I e-mailed some of my interviewers every week and a half just to keep proving my interest (the interviews that went best) and also e-mailed the few alumni that I knew at the bank. Got the offer.
I've been told this before from several BB employees (and it's also been my experience), that there's a fine line between reaching out extensively and being annoying, and that you want to tiptoe the former side of the line. Reaching out every week and a half or so seems a great way to do this - you're reaching out, you're on their mind enough so they don't forget about you, you're also contacting them enough so that they're more inclined to answer so you won't be in their hair as much, but your'e not annoying them or doing anything socially unacceptable.
So calling someone is crossing the line and socially unacceptable?
Haha no no, that's not what I meant, you can certainly call and I do. I just meant that if you're calling/emailing every day or too much you'll start to become annoying is all, and you don't want to do that.
thanks for all the advice. coincidentally enough i got the offer today!
Congrats OP!!! Kill the SA gig and get a return offer!
How to Approach an MD at a regional office of a MM IB for an off-cycle internship (Originally Posted: 11/17/2010)
So I've managed to find an MD's e-mail and phone number for a regional office of a well-known bank. The firm recruits at my school for full-time positions, but I'd like to have an off-cycle internship beginning the fall of my junior year (2011). How and when should I approach him? Sometime in August? What should I say?
How did you get his contact info? Was it through linkedin or through another contact? That will have a huge role in how you approach him.
company website :( he went to a rival school in the same area as me though.
I would help if you didn't troll so much =)
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