End of the Summer - Peace at last

Its almost September, school will be starting soon and many off you will be left with empty spaces where the plucky interns sat.

Maybe it is just me but this years litter seemed particularly precious. They all just seemed so focused on being a "perfect" person, working (apparently, in some cases), eating healthy, gym, ultra PC and so on.

I began to feel something of a dinosaur, anyone else notice this across the City.
Some prime examples for shits and giggles;

  • One guy kept a tube of hand moisturiser in his drawer, expensive stuff too, as pointed out by my female colleague (who makes me look tame at times). I was sitting with another intern next to him helping out with some model and noticed the precious darling. So in standard fashion, I asked "What are you doing?", response: "Just moisturising my hands". He did not take it well when I kindly pointed out that if he is jacking off that often he may need to see someone. Like, WTF, moisturising your hand at the desk, I wanted to fill that tube with superglue.

  • Discussion at over a quiet Friday afternoon was going downhill rapidly, given there were no females in the vicinity at this point you can imagine where the conversation was going. Two guy looked particularly uncomfortable and said nothing, fine, no big deal. But then one of my female colleagues (same one who pointed out the price of the moisturiser), overhead the conversation, and decided to play a game on the two quiet guys. She walked over, stood in front of them and went ape-shit, the usual, females being objectified bullshit, said two guys almost cried, said they were members of the equality society at school and some other bull shit. Apparently they wrote letters of apology my colleague which I should see in the morning.

  • Final one, which is my favourite moment. One kid got a nose bleed, so he was kindly provided with a tampon by same colleague. Apparently he is gay (should have guessed), because we wrote a long letter reporting the incident to me saying he was treated in a derogatory manner due to his sexuality and he should not be treated in such a manner. Needless to say I gave a standard response, but fuck me, what is the world coming to?

We did have one or two good guys and girls this year but compare to what I saw at last year, overall it was a shit intern season.

 
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- Final one, which is my favourite moment. One kid got a nose bleed, so he was kindly provided with a tampon by same colleague. Apparently he is gay (should have guessed), because we wrote a long letter reporting the incident to me saying he was treated in a derogatory manner due to his sexuality and he should not be treated in such a manner. Needless to say I gave a standard response, but fuck me, what is the world coming to?

What? Do people actually do this? I've never heard of using a tampon for a nose bleed (before anyone comments yes I can see why you might do it).

 

Yes, its especially common in France, and generally by men who wear overly tight trousers. Blood has to go somewhere and using a tampon makes them feel special and noticed and in their mind gives them an excuse to be moody and useless for a day.

 

It's because finance recruiting is so corrupt these days yo. All that matters these days is what your GPA is and your academic qualifications. Such bullshit bro, back in the day if your dad wasn't on the board and you weren't in a top tier frat you would get tazed for trying to step into the lobby. The other day some nerd at Citi tried to ask me to explain why CAPM was archaic and I was like because who the fuck has ever heard of Chi Alpha Phi Mu???? Then I KICKED HIS ASS for being such a dweeb.

 

Damn bro, so how much pussy did you get last night? Was it crazy amounts of pussy or just the standard pussy amount?

Teach a man to make a fire, he'll be warm for the night. But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
 

@LReed" hit it pretty well. I've been out of the banking thing for awhile so it isn't as bad because I'm not interacting with recent product from campuses, but the real concern is how heavily you have to police yourself for fear of the public shaming and permanent fallout that's become the theme du jour.

It's worse when you're operating an a bigger scale outside the confines of the corporate grind where the worst thing is HR firing you. You start running things with your own name on them, start sitting on boards, start dealing with sums bigger than a couple hundred grand in annual comp.

It leads to a real chilling effect where you're remarkably on edge all the time. Just being at a restaurant with your friends, even in a private room, is dangerous because even someone else letting loose a comment in poor taste could be your fatal killshot. Johhny Waiter or Susie Maitre'd is happy to blog a recording of the six of you around a table guffawing over your predictably idiotic pledge brother being his usual lovable asshole self. You might not even be laughing, hell, in that moment you might even be thinking "Sheez, cool it", but you were there, so damn you too, right?

Fuck, look at Mitt Romney. The guy was as middle-of-the-road as it gets, practically built to be President. 6'2", Harvard JD/MBA with the highest grade out of his entire program, high-profile corporate experience (let me fix entire fucking companies that are underperforming), high-profile public service (I will save you from the predictable shitshow that is the Olympics in a small-market [read: poor management talent] city and make it the best domestic Olympics experience to date), Governor in a state that for the 14 years prior to his election reliably belonged to the other party, fixed (a) a $1.5 billion hole in the budget and (b) introduced health care reform that made everybody happy ...

The only weird thing about him is the whole creepy quasi-cult thing ... (no offense to Mormons, I know a whole bunch and on average they are very kind, moral, sincere people who voluntarily live life by a higher code; it's just that you never know which ones are the 'marry six people, have twelve kids, this group of 400 people is actually one big family' a la "The Order" or whatever the [Kingston Clan](

) calls itself) ... where someone who isn't smart enough to actually study what the LDS church is and how there are splinter groups that are non-representative of the main organization could easily think "Wow, this guy was a church leader, he's weird."

And with all that, he got taken down by some disaffected waiter somewhere capturing him with an iPhone speaking a plain fact, that the majority of this country is accustomed to entitlement programs and thus out of simple, basic self-interest are entirely unlikely to vote someone in who might risk those programs.

Unreal.

I wish people (on all sides of the political, religious, social, and wealth spectra) had a little more fortitude and a little less 'rally the pitchfork brigade' in their DNA.

I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

What have we become, judging a co-worker (emphasis) by the fact he/she uses hand moisturizer? He's someone you work with, not your son, not your son-in-law, not your nephew, not your grandchild. The purpose of a workplace is productivity, efficiency, and overall a place to get shit done.

In our personal lives, I agree, overall taste/class/discretion/appearance is very (if not the) most important of character traits. But not so in a professional workplace.

And therein lies the downfall of the modern-day corporate culture. I'm so glad I work for myself, and work with people who deliver results. For all I care, they could have 7 fingers, and wear knee socks.

 
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at the risk of pissing everyone off on this forum, here goes a diatribe (or a WSO suicide note, you decide).

for the kids out there who get offended by everything, ask yourself this: if you won't say something to someone's face about it, why are you putting it online? example: there was a thread here a ways back where an indian dude asked if a waiter's comment "where are you from?" was harmless or if it was a "racial microaggression." I had to look up microaggression because based on my upbringing, my ancestors fought to prevent being called a n@#ger in public and being able to use the same bathrooms. gay people fought to be able to have all the highs and lows of marriage as heterosexual people, and so on. this is the kinda shit that makes my blood boil, some dude gets upset for someone asking a question about his ethnicity, genuinely curious about his past, yet the guy assumes the person asking is just a racist looking to judge them. get the fuck over yourself, I've been asked "what are you?" more times than I can count, it's a conversation starter (albeit poorly worded), not a nazi slogan. and by the way, if you want to report my comment as abusive or sensitive for spelling out the "n word," saying "dude" instead of "cis male" or whatever it's being called today, go right ahead. just know that when my grandma was trying to vote, there wasn't a "report violation" button, she had to wait for jim crow to let her vote. grow thicker skin.

yes, you should fight for equality, you should fight for constitutional rights, but you should also realize that life isn't fair, no one thinks you're special, few people care about your feelings, and you need to stand up for yourself. go out in society, purposely put yourself in situations where it's diverse, and in situations where it's not diverse. ask yourself: are we really that divided as a whole? there will be pockets of hatred but I can't help but think that the big issue here is people have a quick outlet in social media, and it blows things way out of proportion. the government protects hate speech, by the way, and while there's a landmark supreme court case against incitement (which is the reason that many KKK/Nazi rallies get denied permits), that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be insulated from ideologies that offend you.

as for the people who call PC folks pussies, wimps, and so on, you're not helping. some of the OP's comments reek of insecurities about his own masculinity, and while it's your right to think what you want to think, it doesn't help your case simply by making fun of the "other side." this is a gigantic issue today, and it usually manifests itself in my fellow right leaning compadres. if you have a strong argument, argue its merits, don't simply spew hyperbole and say it's the logic your opposition is using, and therefore they're wrong. this whole charlottesville thing is a great example. people on the right are essentially putting words in the mouths of the status protestors, saying they'll protest to have the egyptian pyramids destroyed, the white house destroyed, and other national monuments. if your argument is strong enough to stand on its own, fucking prove it, don't just make feigned attempts at tearing down the other side's argument.

the tampon thing I'll give you, that kid was being too sensitive, and instead of approaching the situation assertively and asking the person "hey, did you give me a fucking tampon because I'm gay? go fuck yourself." no, instead he was a tattle tale, fuck that, stand up for yourself. I remember plenty of incidents as a kid (usually on sports teams) where someone may start to make comments, saying I looked mexican, or they can't see me during night games. most of the time I'd shake it off, but if it got to me I'd bark back or push back. the world is a cruel place not designed to protect you, you need to learn to protect yourself, and people will stop fucking with you if you make it clear you're not to be fucked with. at the same time, you can still be compassionate and accepting of others, they're not mutually exclusive.

the moisturizer thing and the girl making those dudes cry? congrats, you're both bullies fighting an unfair fight. you want to have a good laugh? make fun of someone whose employment decisions aren't impacted directly by your assessment of them. from the interns' point of view, it's a lose lose. they try to be too much of a bro, you think they're too cheeky and not dedicated. they act meek & polite? you accuse them of being spineless pussies not worthy of sharing office space with you. get real. remember how nervous you were for your first interviews? have a little heart, and don't be such a doucebag to people who are trying hard, even if they're tryhards.

in summary, because this is a professional forum, what I'll say is this. if you're looking to manage and lead people, find out what motivates them, don't just assume they're weak because they're different from you and came from a different generation. people are the same year in and year out, it just may manifest a little different from time to time. if you're looking to make a name for yourself in this world and are early in career, the world is full of douchebags, you can't change it so don't waste your time complaining about it. unless someone's threatening you with violence and/or hurting your work product with the environment they've created, just stand up for yourself and realize most bad situations are temporary. learn to be assertive, but not aggressive. no one wants someone to come into an internship acting like he's a BSD, but people also don't want a child they have to take care of. be independent, be self reliant, don't take shit from anyone (unless that person signs your bonus check, in which case grab your ankles, it'll be over soon), and don't be a tattle tale.

I guess if I had to summarize in a TLDR, I'd pick these 2 things: seek first to understand, then to be understood (stolen from Covey's 7 habits), and speak softly, but carry a big stick (Teddy Roosevelt)

 

so in my previous post I never questioned whether bullying is "right" or "wrong" . (i.e I don't care about morality, nor do I have much of it to be honest).

what I'm concerned about is whether having thoughts of hand moisturizer is worth anyone's time. In other words, really? A mind is better relegated towards more productive uses.

 

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