EY CF/Valuation

Hi Monkeys!!

I want to start with saying that I am quite new of the forum and I am European and I am in front of a very important decision. I know that this forum is mainly towards the US but I would like to receive some feedback regarding the possibility to join EY CF/Valuation (recent graduate at top EU BS), fluent in 5 languages and internship in a MM boutique. My plan is to stay roughly 2 years at EY and then move to VC/PE (not necessarily BIG houses).

Do you think is feasible?
or would I be considered an accountant?
do I need to go through IBD BB/ renown boutiques first?
Is there here anybody with related experience? How would you structure this lateral moves without an MBA?
Is a position in consulting not MBB a better option?

Thank you very much!!

 
Best Response

Hi JonnyPi,

I have just completed by second year in the CF team of a Big 4 company in Continental Europe. Therefore, I will give you my thoughts on your questions with specific reference to what I have seen in my country (Italy).

First of all, I have to say that my team is considered one of the strongest M&A team in my country with regards to FIG transactions (obv. we don't do € 50 bln mergers, but if you are willing to dispose some of your branches, your subsidiaries or to do a deal up to € 1 bln, we do compete with some investment banks). That said, we receive some attention from headhunters when it comes to recruiting opportunities. With regards to what I have seen, my colleagues (second year analyst to first year associate) and I have been called for the following opportunities, in my country, by headhunters or company HR (with no application submitted by us): a) Senior analyst position for a Continental Europe boutique (i.e.: Leonardo & Co.); b) Senior analyst position for a Italian based MM boutique (i.e.: Vitale & Associati and Mittel Advisory): c) Senior analyst position for a Elite boutique (e.g.: Lazard/Rothschild/etc.); d) Second year analyst for a BB bank (e.g.: Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse, etc.); e) Private Equity Associate for a middle market Italy based fund (ca. € 1 bln AuM); f) Private Equity Senior Analyst/Associate for an Italy based minority investment fund (ca. € 5 bln AuM); g) Private Equity Senior Analyst/Associate for a middle market Italy and Financial Services based fund (ca. € 800 mln AuM); h) Senior Analyst for a leading restructuring consulting firm (e.g.: A&M/AlixPartners); j) Senior consultant within the Financial Services practice of another Big 4 company; k) Business development analyst for a listed Italian company with revenues of ca. € 400 mln; l) First year analyst for a BB bank (MS/JPM/GS/etc.);

Note: f) and l) have been achieved thanks to contacts collected during previous internship experiences.

As you can see, working with a Big 4 corporate finance team, at least with the strongest Big 4 M&A team in the country, could help to obtain some exit opportunities which may include some middle market funds (e.g.: e) and g)). That said, it is not always easy to translate these opportunity in full time positions and, as you can see, they are very limited in number (only 2 in 2 years). Obv. you can enhance your opportunity with more networking with the funds you may be interested to join or working in a team which has an higher exposure to them. That said, if you were able to join a consulting firm such as Roland Berger, ATK or LEK (which works a lot with PE firms), I would strongly advise you to take that opportunity over a Big 4 CF slot, at least in my country because of a) higher prestige which helps to attract headhunter; b) better pay which helps you to keep your morale up; c) higher opportunities to join a top ranked MBA program if you are not able to make the switch; d) probably better hours. The only cons I see there is that it would be more difficult to move to banking. Finally, people who don't know what a Big 4 CF team do (almost every one out there which was not at a Big 4 CF team before) will always believe your are an accountat and that you only do accounting due diligence.

Good luck.

I'm grateful that I have two middle fingers, I only wish I had more.
 
JonnyPi:

yes and I wanted to know if through this path PE was a feasable opt.

What are your other options? If you describe to us your other options, we may be better able to help you.

I'm grateful that I have two middle fingers, I only wish I had more.
 

In my country, E&Y has a unique team (TAS) where they do, as stated above, transaction services, valutation and M&A and you rotate during your first 2 yrs among each of these services. If your other opportunity is Deloitte in S&O, I would go with E&Y and then try to: a) work as much as you can with private equity firms; b) try as much as you can to acquire some M&A experience; c) try to focus your attention to mid-market funds active in your country.

I'm grateful that I have two middle fingers, I only wish I had more.
 

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