Fake News Awards

So Trump recently released the first ever Fake News Awards. See below:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/17/presi…

1) The New York Times' Paul Krugman claiming markets would 'never' recover from a Trump presidency

2) ABC News' Brian Ross' bungled report on former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn

3) CNN falsely reporting the Trump campaign had early access to hacked documents from WikiLeaks

4) TIME report that Trump removed a bust of Martin Luther King, Jr. from the Oval Office

5) The Washington Post's Dave Weigel tweeting that Trump's December rally in Pensacola, Fla., wasn't packed with supporters

6) CNN's video suggesting Trump overfed fish during a visit with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

7) CNN's retracted report claiming Anthony Scaramucci-Russia ties

8) Newsweek report that Polish First Lady Agata Kornhauser-Duda did not shake Trump's hand

9) CNN report that former FBI Director James Comey would dispute President Trump's claim he was told he was not under investigation

10) The New York Times report that the Trump administration had hidden a climate-change study

11) In Trump's words, "'RUSSIA COLLUSION!' Russian collusion is perhaps the greatest hoax perpetrated on the American people. THERE IS NO COLLUSION!"

Thoughts? Have we ever seen anything like this in presidential politics? Has the media ever been this wrong about any other president 1 year into their presidency?

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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:20pm

When you asked this: "Have we ever seen anything like this in presidential politics?"... I thought it would go a very different direction than this: "Has the media ever been this wrong about any other president 1 year into their presidency?"

Our head of state is literally a caricature, he's running some fake "fake news" award garbage and you're worried about the attention seeking media getting some stories wrong. Perfect.

Even worse, the first one is an opinion not "news" at all and most of these are mundane nonsense. MLK bust? Overfeeding fish? Shaking hands? A tweet (not even a full story) about rally attendance? This is what our head of state is spending his time on and your take is "damn the media has been wrong". Perfect.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:16pm

Didn't Obama do stand-up comedy and also read "celebrity mean tweets"? Is that any less dignified?

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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:52pm
m8:

"Most of these are mundane nonsense", I agree 100% with you.

But this is what the media is choosing to cover about Trump as they breathlessly attempt to discredit him at every turn. It is utter nonsense, and Trump is calling them out on it.

And that is actually the point. The media spends more time covering handshakes than it does covering actual policy.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 1:30pm

I'm shocked that you're uninterested in how biased (and WRONG!) the media has been towards this president. Really, shocked. As always, thank you for your contribution.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 1:43pm

I'm sure if CNN did a fraction of this to Obama he would be pissed.

Who cares about Trump. The fact that CNN has no credibility, yet is portrayed as the US version of the BBC is what's worrying. It's played in every airport. Every office. And they continually make shit up.

90% of the press coverage on trump is negative. Excluding fox, I'd imagine that number would be much higher. It's as if he has done nothing objectively good. Total joke.

Major news talking about trumps Diet Coke habit or claiming he will have a heart attack because his doctor wants him to lose 10 lbs. trash.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:22pm
rebuh2mr:

Kind of appears to be justifiably negative to me...

Really? The media isn't even covering policy, or the economy, and when it does it blatantly lies about it (e.g. saying the GOP tax cut bill was a tax increase on the middle class).

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Jan 18, 2018 - 12:55pm

His point was not making mistakes, it was about deliberate misinformation to try and discredit the president. Making a mistake and then correcting it is one thing, Lying for the express intent of trying to push your political agenda is competely different.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

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Jan 18, 2018 - 4:04pm

Yes. Is there an instance in presidential history where a president, in a single year of his presidency, had 11 false news stories published about him by a major media outlet. It's pretty straightforward. I'm not trying to complicate it.

And when I say wrong, I mean objectively wrong. Here's an example of what I mean: link to WSJ article criticizing Obama's recovery as "wrong" because the stock market gained x% in a certain timeframe does not qualify.

Again, I mean objectively wrong.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 4:07pm
Esuric:

Yes. Is there an instance in presidential history where a president, in a single year of his presidency, had 11 false news stories published about him by a major media outlet. It's pretty straightforward. I'm not trying to complicate it.

And when I say wrong, I mean objectively wrong. Here's an example of what I mean: link to WSJ article criticizing Obama's recovery as "wrong" because the stock market gained x% in a certain timeframe does not qualify.

Again, I mean objectively wrong.

I honestly can't think of any. The media's attack on Trump and publishing either false or exaggerated stories, is unprecedented. And no, this is not comparable to Nixon, where the President committed actual crimes, and the media did a noble service by publicizing it.

Jan 18, 2018 - 12:58pm

how is paul krugman considered an economist when he is wrong about everything and said 3% GDP growth was "literally impossible" as he put it?

If he is such a great economist why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is and actually take risk on his economic predictions?

almost like he is a fraud hahaha, nah that couldn't be it!

Jan 18, 2018 - 3:23pm

Paul is that you?

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

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Jan 22, 2018 - 4:29pm

yea it's me and i wasn't wrong 3% growth is impossible also the markets have never recovered from drumpf's presidency

also i was not wrong about those things i was wrong about keep reading my NYT articles :~)

Jan 18, 2018 - 1:37pm

The president is singly handedly unraveling the entire left-wing infrastructure of false narratives and subversion. The truth is absolutely clear to the unbiased observer. Only the zealots still cling onto their now discredited beliefs.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 1:54pm

How does someone hold a regular job talking like this? Take this hard right garbage to Breitbart.

The President's strategy is working so well that the Republicans lost a Senate seat in Alabama, the Virginia governorship, and state seats all over the country in special elections since the 2016 general.

you didn't make good choices; you had good choices

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Jan 18, 2018 - 1:59pm

next are you going to pull an Schreckstoff and tell him he doesn't exist if he doesn't agree with you?

jeez man you might be the one who needs to get a grip, i can literally picture you slamming your keys sweating while typing this lol

"if people don't agree with me they can't have normal jobs!!!" would you also throw them out of society too?

Jan 18, 2018 - 2:02pm
onemanwolfpack:

How does someone hold a regular job talking like this? Take this hard right garbage to Breitbart.

The President's strategy is working so well that the Republicans lost a Senate seat in Alabama, the Virginia governorship, and state seats all over the country in special elections since the 2016 general.

I agree that Trump is not popular and has a poor political strategy. With that said, the GOP lost the Alabama senate seat because of horrible sexual allegations against the GOP nominee and the Virginia governor was already a Democrat. Let's just be honest about that...

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Jan 18, 2018 - 2:14pm
onemanwolfpack:

How does someone hold a regular job talking like this? Take this hard right garbage to Breitbart.

This is just intellectual pussy talk. Make your point if you have one. Don't rely on these cowardly argumentation tactics.

onemanwolfpack:
The President's strategy is working so well that the Republicans lost a Senate seat in Alabama, the Virginia governorship, and state seats all over the country in special elections since the 2016 general.

We shall see.

But to all the drones on this website, here's my challenge to you all:

I'll kindly STFU if anyone can give me an example of the media being this biased and this wrong about any other president, one year into their presidency.

Put up or shut up. Either refute the topic of this thread or don't but don't come crying here because you can't.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 3:32pm

The Republicans lost a seat in Alabama because the democrat he was running against was responsible for getting justice for people who killed during church bombings back in the 60s over 25 years later. Yet no one seemed to cover that part of it.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

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Jan 18, 2018 - 4:11pm

What's with these stupid aggressive, baiting posts on WSO. This is the sort of shit that drives away users and turns this forum into a shithole (I get the irony). If you want to talk about stuff like this, actually talk to the dude sitting next to you at the office or go to reddit.

Jan 18, 2018 - 4:15pm
aljdljaldla:

What's with these stupid aggressive, baiting posts on WSO. This is the sort of shit that drives away users and turns this forum into a shithole (I get the irony). If you want to talk about stuff like this, actually talk to the dude sitting next to you at the office or go to reddit.

Talking about politics at work is a bad idea. And people on reddit are mostly idiots. WSO, presumably, has a lot of intelligent educated professionals, so if anything, engaging in political discussion on WSO is preferable. And since the members are anonymous, it also allows us to be honest with our thoughts.

Jan 18, 2018 - 4:17pm

I think, at this point, we can all agree education and rationality is thrown out of the window when discussing politics. It's the new religion.

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Jan 22, 2018 - 4:34pm
Dances With Newfoundland:

aljdljaldla:

What's with these stupid aggressive, baiting posts on WSO. This is the sort of shit that drives away users and turns this forum into a shithole (I get the irony). If you want to talk about stuff like this, actually talk to the dude sitting next to you at the office or go to reddit.

Talking about politics at work is a bad idea. And people on reddit are mostly idiots. WSO, presumably, has a lot of intelligent educated professionals, so if anything, engaging in political discussion on WSO is preferable. And since the members are anonymous, it also allows us to be honest with our thoughts.

haha people on WSO are smart LMAO good one dude that was funny

Jan 18, 2018 - 4:29pm
ACP7:

Really? The "largest inauguration crowd ever" didn't make it to the Top 11? Clear snub right there

But why did that stupid and unimportant Trump statement get wall-to-wall coverage for, like, a week in the mainstream press? It was a moronic Trump statement but of zero news merit, especially for the amount of time that went into investigating that claim. I'd wager there was more news coverage of that than Trump announcing the move of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 4:59pm

I don't know why, and I won't presume to know. However, if I had to guess, I would say it is less about the bit itself (whether it was the largest crowd or not is really not relevant in itself), but rather about what it says about the person (falsely) claiming it.

Similarly, it is what I really fail to understand about Trump and his "supporters" (I don't even understand the concept of personal support in politics - it's not a fucking sports team for it to be supported blindly). The case with all these "gaffes" (like this one, or the shitholegate, for example) is not how impactful those things are, but rather what they reveal about the personality of the man that leads the nation, and I really can't grasp why that seems unimportant to some people.

Yes, maybe the lenses of the media should have been more directed towards his policies, and I guess no one can deny a general bias against him. But I also believe that it was Trump that brought this on himself. Still, some of you claim the media's mistakes are irreversible and everything is fake news now, unreadable and untrustworthy, but somehow Trump's actions do not undermine at all his credibility and ability to be President. It's just not coherent.

Jan 18, 2018 - 4:49pm

This thread is filled with nonsense. The false equivalencies here posted by Trump supporters are unacceptable to anyone who follows current events.

To people saying that Obama used the IRS to target the Tea Party, anyone who followed that case to it's conclusion knows that it is a zombie story. The IRS autied groups with words like "social welfare" and "progressive" in them, too. This was not a scandal, much less a partisan scandal. https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555975207/as-irs-targeted-tea-party-grou…

To people talking about Obama wiretapping James Rosen, that was in order to find someone leaking classified information. It was not to put Rosen in jail or charge him with something. Trump literally told James Comey to put journalists in jail while he was still FBI Director. He also has trashed the US media while on foreign soil and gone on Twitter saying that broadcast licenses for outlets he disagrees with should be revoked, among other ridiculous ideas. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/business/media/trumps-urging-that-co…

Jan 18, 2018 - 5:03pm

He didn't even wiretap him lol. So the headline itself is bullshit.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 5:53pm
SwapInterestingRate]To people saying that Obama used the IRS to target the Tea Party, anyone who followed that case to it's conclusion knows that it is a zombie story. The IRS autied groups with words like social welfare and progressive in them, too. This was not a scandal, much less a partisan scandal. <a href=https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555975207/as-irs-targeted-tea-party-groups-it-went-after-progressives-too[/quote rel=nofollow>https://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555975207/as-irs-targeted-tea-party-grou…</a>]</p> <p>Nope, nothing to see here:</p> <p><a href=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/politics/irs-tea-party-lawsuit-settlement.html rel=nofollow>https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/politics/irs-tea-party-lawsuit-se…</a></p> <p><em>The Justice Department settled two lawsuits with conservative groups that claimed the Internal Revenue Service had unfairly scrutinized them during applications for tax-exempt status. The government agreed to a multimillion-dollar settlement to resolve one lawsuit, which was brought on behalf of 428 groups, said Edward Greim, the lead lawyer for the plaintiffs. The government will not pay damages to the 41 groups in the second lawsuit, but the I.R.S. acknowledged its conduct was wrong.</em></p> <p>And ya know, that whole Lois Lerner pleading the Fifth Amendment? Yeah, nothing to see.</p> <p>[quote=SwapInterestingRate:
To people talking about Obama wiretapping James Rosen, that was in order to find someone leaking classified information. It was not to put Rosen in jail or charge him with something. Trump literally told James Comey to put journalists in jail while he was still FBI Director. He also has trashed the US media while on foreign soil and gone on Twitter saying that broadcast licenses for outlets he disagrees with should be revoked, among other ridiculous ideas. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/business/media/trumps-urging-that-co…

The DOJ apologized to James Rosen for their misconduct. You can't even acknowledge their misconduct when the DOJ actually apologized for it.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 6:05pm

SwapInterestingRate posts proof that conservatives AND liberals were targeted: you sieze on the part that discusses only the conservative portion. That's very very intellectually honest. BTW, per the report, this occured from 2004-2013, so four of those years were prior to Obama.

SwapInterestingRate posts proof that no wiretapping occured and (accurately) stated they were looking for a leaker: you go on about an apology. An apology for misconduct does not mean they apologized for trying to jail him or targeted him due to negative coverage, like you originally stated. But I'm the pathological liar. Amazing.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 6:50pm

Just wanna give a shout out to the 5 or so hyperactive political commenters that have turned WSO into a total fucking nightmare 24/7.

Guys, it's a finance forum. Get a grip.

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Jan 18, 2018 - 6:59pm

You would think I was some hyperpolitical toolbox based on my post history, what's crazy is I'm really not. All politicians are generally self-serving assholes. I just feel compelled to generally speak up in what has quickly become a conservative echo chamber. You've no idea how many people who don't bother have msged me thanking me for contradicting the general nonsense that goes on in these political discussions, or at least providing a different viewpoint.

p.s. No one is forcing you to read or post on these threads either, just sayin'

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Jan 18, 2018 - 7:01pm

I'm on your side man. I usually just laugh at the breitbart echo chamber writing 5,000 word posts and SBing each other not realizing 99% of the WSO community is quietly rolling their eyes at them, but lately it's gotten to the point where it's ruining the site.

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Jan 22, 2018 - 4:50pm

That was actually real news lol..

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Jan 22, 2018 - 4:47pm

Post-truth politics, where facts come after opinions, is deteriorating the world. Trump is sticking it to us as Americans for being exceptional.

This mid-term cycle has only gotten worse with new lunies coming to light like Chelsea Manning, and radical progressivism as the new norm.

Who cares about Trump's policies when he's making shithole comments and doing this stupid fake news awards?

People on WSO defending Trump's vulgarity is astounding. Appreciate the policy but leave the idiocy at home and between social interactions. There's no excuses, no matter what policy is being implemented.

Jan 22, 2018 - 5:13pm

i get you dislike trump and you are some neocon ben shapiro shill lord, but come on man this dude thurnis haley just said he wants people who are part of the opposite political parties or live in red states to "wither away and die"

that is scary stuff lol

you don't find that more scary than someone saying some mean insults? this dude is literally wishing death upon you and anyone (even if they are democrats) who live in red states JUST give me a break how is this allowed on WSO

Jan 22, 2018 - 5:28pm
Dig Bumb Idiot:

i get you dislike trump and you are some neocon ben shapiro shill lord, but come on man this dude thurnis haley just said he wants people who are part of the opposite political parties or live in red states to "wither away and die"

that is scary stuff lol

you don't find that more scary than someone saying some mean insults? this dude is literally wishing death upon you and anyone (even if they are democrats) who live in red states JUST give me a break how is this allowed on WSO

Using the word 'shill' gets you far in some circles but not in mine. You radical lefties and righties need to get in a giant ball pit and kick and scream until you fall asleep, because you're all a bunch of unreasonable babies.

Jan 22, 2018 - 7:12pm

Are you still referencing the shit hole comment? It was said in a private meeting.

Trump is blunt and unpolished. The criticisms against him sound like old money scoffing at new money. Or someone looking down at a blue collar millionaire.

Attacking someone's education is like left 101. Bush was a monkey and make fun of. Yet the second obama didn't have a TelePrompter he was humming and hawing.

Literally who gives a shit if trump isn't speaking in prose. You're worried what others think? Like who? Merkel who is watching the rise of right wing extremism because she's allowed millions of uber fundamental young males into her country?

Or maybe our esteemed drama professor up north who is a male bimbo. Or we talking about the leaders in the UK who set the stage for Brexit. Or the French who were so polite and verbose, with such shitty policies that led to the National Front being a legit party.

I prefer action, results over imagery. I prefer a pragmatic deal maker over someone beholden to politics. Trump would 100% work with Dems if they'd work with him. How many Republicans you think would cross the aisle?

So much snobbery, it amazes me. Especially on a site for people who have issues breaking into one of the most base industries.

I've met literally hundreds of people odd this site and I've come across maybe 2 that id consider eloquent. But I guess the demographics have changed recently. Bunch of Shakespearians on here now.

Please.

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Jan 22, 2018 - 5:25pm

To the liberals on here. No one is saying that you don't have the right to express your views or to disagree with my sentiment or the sentiments of those that generally agree with my conservative position. That said, the form of argumentation used here is beyond inappropriate.

Some examples of what I'm referring to:

BobTheBaker:
I can't with you man, you're a zealot and one can't reason with zealots, I should've never posted on this thread. Irrelevant bullshit like this needs to die off on this forum.
BobTheBaker:
I'm not going to feed the troll, pathetic purposeful misstatement of my words by a pathetic nonsensical troll who never adds anything of value to the conversation.
rockrile15074:
hows it feel to be a fucking bitch??? You're a fucking spineless pussy if you justify trump in any way IMHO.
thurnis haley:
the vast majority of reporting" LMAO. Holy fuck you people are delusional. It's seriously an alternate reality.
onemanwolfpack:
How does someone hold a regular job talking like this? Take this hard right garbage to Breitbart.
aljdljaldla:
This is the sort of shit that drives away users and turns this forum into a shithole (I get the irony). If you want to talk about stuff like this, actually talk to the dude sitting next to you at the office or go to reddit.
Ricky Sargulesh:
Just wanna give a shout out to the 5 or so hyperactive political commenters that have turned WSO into a total fucking nightmare 24/7.
Ricky Sargulesh:
I'm on your side man. I usually just laugh at the breitbart echo chamber writing 5,000 word posts and SBing each other not realizing 99% of the WSO community is quietly rolling their eyes at them, but lately it's gotten to the point where it's ruining the site.

I understand that many of you do not frequently encounter those that hold our conservative views, particularly because finance hubs tend to be in extremely liberal cities. I know that, in the work environments that I've been in, my views are extremely rare. That said, we can have a principled discussion without resorting to personal attacks and threats of physical violence.

Also, no one forced any of you to participate on this thread. You came here to engage on your own free will. If you're not interested in hearing opposing views then you're free hurl MS at those comments you disagree with and SBs at those that you find agreeable. Or, you can choose to disassociate yourself from this sort of conversation entirely.

The president put out a few concrete examples of the media publishing objectively false stories about him and his administration. Yes, some of those included on the list aren't objectively "fake news" stories (such as Krugman's terribly wrong prediction). Yes, some of the stories are laughable (which was also kind of the point).

I wanted to discuss the phenomenon because it really is unprecedented (the challenge is still open for anyone to show any other president receiving this many objectively false stories in a single year). But I have to admit that I did not expect this level of belligerence, and I've had debates on many different forums with very ideological people (Marxists, Post-Keynesians, libertarian socialists, etc.).

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Jan 22, 2018 - 8:10pm

Lmao at quoting me with no fucking context whatsoever, did you see who I was responding to in that second quote? he is a basic troll. He misconstrued my words purposefully from an entirely unrelated thread in order to troll, and I responded as one should respond to such nonsense. As for your first quote, I went back and forth with VTech4ever aka Danceswithdaschunds aka 18 yr. old troll or whatever his new name is until I was resigned to acknowlegding the obvious. I caught him in an obvious and outrageous lie and he continues to move the goal post on said lie, when faced with facts he continues to deny such facts, then he hits me with the claim that I am a "race-baiting pathological liar" - real constructive. Look at my initial post for my thoughts on the matter. BTW, quoting people out of context is entirely ironic considering you are discussing the quality of posts on this thread. Smh. Let this garbage die. I think all that needs to be said has been said on it.

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Jan 22, 2018 - 6:15pm

yea but bob you are a normal guy there is a guy on here who literally just expressed joy over people dying because they live in red states or affiliate with a different political party

i know i'm just a dumb troll but that actually scared me lol

Jan 22, 2018 - 6:05pm

"here are some times libtards were mean to me"

this is mind blowing stuff

I miss old WSO

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Jan 22, 2018 - 6:13pm

serious question do you agree with thurnis haley in him saying that everyone who is not a democrat or lives in a red state should wither and die are you sharing in his happiness about it?

that was a truly scary stateument and you seem to support it as long as you can make quippy remarks to meanie head republicans about it lol

Jan 22, 2018 - 6:56pm

Who are you anyways and who's stopping you from recreating the so-called "old WSO?" Go start a discussion in the spirit of the "old WSO" Again, no one is forcing you to be here and you're not really contributing anyways.

Politics has always been discussed on WSO. Simply search "Obama" and literally hundreds of hits will appear. What's happening now is that the liberals don't like the outcome of the discussion and are acting out. Debate is replaced by pleas to some imagined "old WSO," (presumably one that was apolitical?) verbal attacks and threats of physical violence.

So this is the new line now whenever we want to speak about issues that a select few left-leaning individuals don't find agreeable - a plea to have the moderators squelch the discussion. A plea by Mr. 420 banana points for an apolitical WSO that never was.

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