Faking Diversity

(Please note that I am NOT trying to start a debate on diversity programs nor picking a side)
I see a lot of threads on diversity programs here, and often people advice students to claim / pretend to be black / Hispanic / gay in order to get into IB. I understand non-URM's frustrations but do you guys not think it's dangerous to give this advice. I know HR doesn't check stuff like that but with the way society is right now, if anyone from the bank found out that you were not an URM like you claim to be and that you lied (and was in favor of diversity programs), it would get called "cultural appropriation" and (whether you think it's bs or not,) it would inevitably have a very negative impact on your career. I just think it's risky to advice kids to lie about stuff that banks' claim to take seriously especially with everything becoming more socially liberal with time.
Thoughts?

Will note that I am already in IB, not asking for advice. Just trying to look out for these kids' futures

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Comments (26)

Aug 19, 2021 - 11:03pm

I don't give a shit. I fully endorse faking diversity. There is no need to "follow the rules" of a fundamentally unjust practice. This is civil disobedience, and anyone who practices it is willing to take the risks.

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
Aug 19, 2021 - 11:05pm

I get where you're coming from but the point isn't whether it's fair or not, the point is that giving this advice to kids could seriously hurt their careers in the long run if they do this.

Genuine question, do you not think that's risky/careless to recommend to students to do this?

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
Aug 19, 2021 - 11:07pm

Imagine you claim to be Hispanic. Someone liberal at your bank finds out and reports to either the senior or HR and you lose your job. Not only that, you are now seen as someone who doesn't care for diversity/racism and if the news spreads, it will be hard to go to another firm because all the firms want to be seen as caring about diversity / inclusion

Aug 19, 2021 - 11:22pm

Imagine this scenario.....you accuse someone of not being hispanic at your bank and they really are....you lose your job and have a tough time getting another one.

I think it's a risky proposition on both ends. Unless I had a copy of someone's birth certificate, I would not accuse a potential faker of anything.

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Aug 19, 2021 - 11:30pm

Again, I am fully aware of the risks and I don't give a shit about them. When we talk about Rosa Parks sitting in the white section of the bus, we don't ask, "Oh my god, was she aware of the risks?" Fuck the risks. She acted her conscience and stood up against an insulting, immoral practice. I don't care about risks if I'm standing up for what I believe is a just and moral cause. I hope everyone violates these programs to a point where they become obsolete. Have you seen The Incredibles? When everyone is diversity, no one will be.

Aug 20, 2021 - 12:14am

Diversity is a scam. If you want to be part of a scam so be it. Understand the risks and rewards. In majority cases, diversity candidates just aren't that good at the job so you may have to play down if you do go this route

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Aug 20, 2021 - 3:59am

Race they'll figure out fairly easily, but sexual orientation is very diverse and hard to judge. If any I would go with the latter.

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Aug 21, 2021 - 6:15pm

Honestly, go for it. F the BS diversity system.

Hear me out. If you can BS into the system, then so be it. Cost benefit this, as in, if you get it, get the internship and then jump ship for the next recruitment. Get a diversity sophomore year internship and then go to another firm for junior year. The junior year internship won't know if you don't list it as diversity and now you're in. Boom

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