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Anyone seen with the Eldridge, Cape or Capsule knots needs to be arrested. Windsor, Half Windsor and Four-in-hand are the most elegant and suitable for work IMO. Nicky and Prat knots just look like poorly done Windsors.
The only reason I select a Pratt over the 4-in hand for narrow collars is the Pratt is symmetrical whereas the 4-in hand is asymmetrical. I also care wayyyyy too much about my appearance so take that with a grain of salt.
Agreed on the non-traditional knots, if you absolutely need to stand out with your neckware (and the only time I can think of is a wedding or a derby/casino) just hand tie a bow tie (not one of those pre-tied ones).
I agree the 4-in-hand looks strange because of the asymmetry but in Milan it's considered the quintessential banker knot for some reason
eldridge is absolutely shit
Half Windsor. Spread collar.
Two for me
full windy - cutaway collar Pratt/Shelby - point collar - collar bar
Does anyone under age 50 wear point collars?
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Half Windsor. Pretty simple and looks good with the collars I wear.
The worst knots I've seen are the ones that make the tie too short.
A full windsor makes most people under 300lbs look like a self-important prick with a knot way too big for their face. A four in hand reminds me of middle school. (seriously? frequently too small and asymmetrical) A half windsor is a good compromise. You shouldn't have your knot make you stand out. If you want loud, do it with the tie, or wear a bowtie. Also, wearing a tie inappropriately is a huge faux-pas too. Our standard uniform is either a suit or a nice oxford shirt and slacks without a tie. Aside from my department and our talking heads, the RFP team is on our floor. There are a couple people on that team that wear atrociously loudly colored/patterned shirts and ties. It feels like they would be more at home managing a Target store than working for a trillion dollar asset manager. You could get away (barely) with the shirt, if the justification was that you were dressing down, but if you are one of the three people out of 200 on the floor wearing a tie, and the other two are in Armani suits, while it looks like you got the shirt/tie combo pack from Marshals, you have problems.
love that subtle "trillion dollar" humble brag... +1
Also, the only dudes that can pull off full-windsors with a normal length tie are all sub 5'5". Screams of a Napoleonic complex if you ask me.
I usually go with the four-in-hand since it's the easiest to tie. Are some people really put off by this type of knot? I always make sure that the tie is tied appropriately long enough.
Windsor - Half windsor, it depends on the shirt's collar/tie. Usually the combo cuff + windsor has the edge
The Windsor knot is cheap and inelegant because of its symmetry,
As an obvious consequence, inelegant people regards it as the quintessential elegant knot.
Repent of your sins, guys.
First and foremost, the bowtie.
Next, the half windsor. Full windsor is too big; four-in-hand looks like you just don't care enough...
St Andrews is my favourite. It is easy and looks nice. Also a trinity knot but I only do that if I feel like taking thirty minutes to tie a tie.
+1 for the Trinity knot. I'm planning to use it to dress for my children's christenings years from now.
Half-windsor is the only one that's basically always appropriate
My to-go knot is the cross. With a three-piece suit I like the Balthus too (despite being symmetrical). Among the new wave ones I like the Van Wijk.
Windsor, provided:
Full is better than half - looks more robust. Also recomment shaping the knot into a triangular shape by pinching the bottom when tightening.
this is what I do as well - a tight, full Windsor.
Very simple. Stick to the basic knots and pick the knot that best fits the collar of your shirt. I prefer wide spread collars, I stick to ties that are meant for a wider collar and use a full Windsor. For narrower collars, I use a half Windsor or a 4-in-hand. Keep it easy and simple. It makes things more manageable that way.
With wide collars you can double the 4-in-1, too.
When I was in high school I thought the Eldridge and the Trinity were the shit, and the only the classiest of gentlemen knew of their existence. Just thinking of that makes me cringe so much.. Blunder years for sure.
I was at an LDP training last year and guy in another function (engineering, surprise surprise) wore an Eldridge or trinity knot every day of the training, when everyone else was business casual. Made the dude look like such a try-hard. Funny enough he turned out to be an actual try-hard, putting way too much effort into the team building activities and icebreakers and such. My best guess is that someone pulled a prank on him and told him "If you appear to be a leader at the ropes course, you will be tagged to enter into the promised land of unlimited promotions and bonuses to come."
Only way to go:
I call this the fettuccine deluxe
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After reading this I’m going to watch American Psycho.
I don't think you could go wrong with a half Windsor.
Hand-tied bowties are pretty neat too
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