For those who have not been vaccinated, why not?

I want to be totally clear: I am not here to start a debate nor judge anyone's personal decisions around their own health - that is your business.

With that said, I truly want to better understand the perspectives of people who have chosen not to get the vaccine. I know it may be uncomfortable to talk about in person, so I hope people feel they can be open and honest here.

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Jul 30, 2021 - 5:37pm

That would probably be for the best.  Have you ever tried to blow a guy with foreskin?  Even odds that it's going to taste nasty.

The only difference between Asset Management and Investment Research is assets. I generally see somebody I know on TV on Bloomberg/CNBC etc. once or twice a week. This sounds cool, until I remind myself that I see somebody I know on ESPN five days a week.
  • Analyst 1 in S&T - Equities
Jul 29, 2021 - 6:40pm

I'm vaccinated, but I would imagine many who aren't don't routinely go to doctors, low income, etc. People are painting "anti vaxxers" with way too wide of a brush. The government has also officially gotten rid of every ounce of incentive for people to get vaccinated now. Watch the vaccine numbers in the coming weeks for proof. 

Jul 29, 2021 - 6:50pm

Antivaxxers

The majority of Americans who won't get vaccines believe that the government is faking the pandemic, vaccines cause autism, and vaccines have microchips.

That's why.

These people are DUMB

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Jul 29, 2021 - 6:58pm

Drumpfy

Antivaxxers

The majority of Americans who won't get vaccines believe that the government is faking the pandemic, vaccines cause autism, and vaccines have microchips.

That's why.

These people are DUMB

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Just because you're too ignorant to follow actual developments in the vaccine world doesn't mean the rest of us are. 

Jul 29, 2021 - 7:54pm

Drumpfy

Antivaxxers

The majority of Americans who won't get vaccines believe that the government is faking the pandemic, vaccines cause autism, and vaccines have microchips.

That's why.

These people are DUMB

I am surprised the percentage is only 20%.  About 50% of the population thought there was a mass conspiracy across the US to steal the election.  

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Jul 30, 2021 - 5:40pm

financeabc

Drumpfy

Antivaxxers

The majority of Americans who won't get vaccines believe that the government is faking the pandemic, vaccines cause autism, and vaccines have microchips.

That's why.

These people are DUMB

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I am surprised the percentage is only 20%.  About 50% of the population thought there was a mass conspiracy across the US to steal the election.  

Honestly, if that's the case then I want a refund.  My cell phone reception is still crap.

The only difference between Asset Management and Investment Research is assets. I generally see somebody I know on TV on Bloomberg/CNBC etc. once or twice a week. This sounds cool, until I remind myself that I see somebody I know on ESPN five days a week.
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Jul 31, 2021 - 11:36pm

Drumpfy

Antivaxxers

The majority of Americans who won't get vaccines believe that the government is faking the pandemic, vaccines cause autism, and vaccines have microchips.

That's why.

These people are DUMB

They are certainly smoking something.

SafariJoe, wins again!
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Aug 4, 2021 - 11:40am

"Faking the Pandemic" (what you said) and "Exaggerating for Political Reasons" (which is what the image says) are two different things. You quite literally read one thing and then typed something different right underneath it lol. And no, I don't think I'm getting chipped or that vaccines cause autism since I know that's what you're going to ask me next. 

  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Jul 29, 2021 - 7:30pm

HotelCREwiz

It's a fair question, but this thread is going to turn into a CK>CK>[email protected] anyway, so let's get it started.  Some unvaccinated have good reasons and some are just legitimately afraid, but the vast majority are just stupid.

"It's a fair question, and the people who are afraid have legitimate reasons, but everyone else who doesn't want to take an experimental vaccine with 0 long-term research data to avoid catching a mild cold with a 99% survival rate is an idiot"

Way to just write off the concerns of half a country, not even mentioning the millions more across Europe. Keep sucking J&J and Pfizer's dick, I'm sure they'd never do anything deceptive or morally unscrupulous to pursue risk-free profits from the government. I think we know who the real moron here is. 

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jul 29, 2021 - 7:35pm

Hey

Basically I'm just not gonna take it (the vaccine!!)

I know....UGH I know.....

I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just that I'm not gonna take it is all

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Jul 29, 2021 - 7:43pm

Because it's idiotic to take something completely experimental that's being produced by companies with a longstanding history of lying while selling unsafe products. Especially when they have literally 0 incentive this time around to take extra precautions since they can't be held liable due to government protection. No class action lawsuit for this one if it turns out the untested gene therapy fucks with my system, so I'll gladly take my >99.9% chances with COVID since I'm well under 60, thanks. 

Here's a fact for all you doomsayers out there - the TOTAL amount of people dead under the age of 40 who are healthy (i.e. no underlying health conditions and had no comorbidities) is 0.09% of ALL deaths from COVID. So if you have complicating factors or are elderly, by all means get the vaccine. It will lower your chance of death and raise the survival rate from ~95% to >99%, so I can understand that it's worth the piece of mind. But for literally anyone else who falls into the under 40 group without underlying medical conditions, COVID is categorically NOT a risk. 

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Jul 29, 2021 - 7:46pm

I want to tell my grandkids I 

1.never got tested for covid

2.never got vaccinated

3.never got very ill (only a mild cold or light fever once or twice past 18 months).

4. never wore a mask unless ABSOLUTELY needed (to buy food at the grocery store etc.)

5. and that the whole thing was the stupidest overreaction this nation has ever had and I hope we never subject our citizens to it again

Im not even anti vax either, I just dont care for someone my age.  It's a blessing for elderly and those with comorbidities.

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Jul 29, 2021 - 7:58pm

Drumpfy

Covid deaths

He still thinks we're overreacting?  How many more people are gonna die before it gets through his thick skull?

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34,800/612 = 0.0175 -> 1.75% or a 98.2% survival rate. Vast majority (>95%) of deaths were people with other significant underlying health conditions/co-morbidities or people who were literally older than the average life span in the US. You are overreacting. Turn off the tv, go outside, and realize the world would barely have noticed if the lockdowns hadn't happened and the media wasn't telling you to be afraid. 

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Jul 29, 2021 - 8:02pm

Ok so how come states like Florida which didn't give a phuck performed better than other states that turned into mini version of communist China.

Deaths are unfortunate.  Were you this passionate about the 61k  flu deaths in 2018?

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More than the number of us soldiers killed in vietnam...or like 30 9/11s.

Where were you then?

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  • Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
Jul 30, 2021 - 10:05am

Prescription painkillers that are the equivalent of a lethal dose of heroin should not even exist. Not to mention like every drug these companies produce ends up getting recalled a few years later because they rushed through testing. The pharmaceutical industry is one of the most corrupt in the country. Why people suddenly simp for them is disturbing.

Aug 4, 2021 - 3:34pm

They deserve the backlash they get.  By not getting vaccinated, they allow variants that are deadlier, spread faster, or are more resistant to the vaccine to mutate.  Not to mention the health effects of just getting sick, two of my family members have long COVID and it's really terrible.

Controversial
Jul 29, 2021 - 9:48pm

I am pro vax.  Lets clear THIS point up before I start.   I also did NOT VOTE for Trump.  Facts / reaons as to WHY I am waiting / refusing the jab.

  • It is not FDA approved.
  • It is under EUA only.
  • There are cheaper, more effective safer protocols that have been blocked by Big Pharma / Biden
  • It is NOT a vaccine.  It is a theraputic at best.
  • No long term testing on MRNA new tech.  Polio was tested for 12 years before release.
  • Coronavirus mutate too quickly for a vaccine to be effective.
  • I do not like any of the CURRENT adjuvents (c'mon Novavax! Matrix-M looks good)
  • I did not like the results from the phase 3 trials.
  • The CDC states that it has NOT been tested on people with Autoimmune disease and they have no idea what will happen.
  • More people have died from this jab than the SUM of people in the last 20 years combined.
  • Jabs have killed more kids than COVID.
  • 99.x% survival rate.  This isnt airborne Ebola.
  • Putting out leaky jabs causes further mutations.
  • I already "had"  Covid and already protected naturally.
  • PCR tests are a joke. 40 cycles?  The creator of the test said it cant be used in this fashion.
  • Uncertain if it causes ADE.

Now for the tin foil hat reasons.

  • The government lies.
  • Fauci lies.
  • The government flip flops. 
  • Sweden.
  • Follow the money.
  • Lockdowns do not work.
  • Masks do not work.  It says so on tbe BOX.
  • This is ALL about 1984 style control.
  • My body.  My choice.
  • Recent peer reviewed studies show RNA DOES change DNA.
  • Soros/Gates and the Georgia Guidestones.
  • Stolen elections.
  • Vaccine Passports (Papers Please!)

I could keep on going.

Bottom Line:  "I am from the Government and Im here to help...help you (force you) take an experimental jab that is in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code?

Fuck off.

Namaste.

D.O.U.G.

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Aug 13, 2021 - 11:39pm

D.O.U.G.

I am pro vax.  Lets clear THIS point up before I start.   I also did NOT VOTE for Trump.  Facts / reaons as to WHY I am waiting / refusing the jab.

  • More people have died from this jab than the SUM of people

this is hackish. 80% of senior citizens took the vaccine, nearly all at once. Of course some of them have since died. 
 

All deaths post jab were due to the vaccine, but deaths from Covid were elderly with co morbidities who were gonna die anyway. 
 

You see the asymmetrical thinking, right?

you didn't make good choices; you had good choices

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Sep 21, 2021 - 8:50am

Sweeden didn't lockdown, didn't mask mandate, etc. etc.  They pretty much didn't follow any of the rest of the panic and ended up in a far better position than pretty much every other country on earth with the exception of Austrailia and NZ.  Mostly becuase those two countries haven't seen covid run through them yet.  So once that happenes it is likely that Sweeden will have ended up better than them. 

Jul 29, 2021 - 9:59pm

Wouldn't mind seeing all those idiots who refuse vaccines, without doing any research or having a valid reason, die. Before y'all retards call me an example of the "intolerant left," I'm a moderate and simply pro-death. As in, fuck babies and murderers. Idgaf if babies or rapists are murked, just as I would not give a shit if more idiots died.

  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 29, 2021 - 10:10pm

Survival of the fittest Mothafucka.

Jk jk, I got COVID and had a runny nose and a headache for a day. From what ive heard, the vax makes you feel like trash so I have no incentive to preventatively treat myself from a virus with side effects more mild than said preventative vax. I'm not antivax by any means - I believe in modern medicine - it just seems like an inefficient use of my time, especially when others have a choice to get the vaccine for themselves.

  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
Jul 29, 2021 - 10:11pm

Not fully vaxxed yet. I was in Europe January-July and the vaccine was distributed by age. I became eligible a week before I returned to the US and didn't want to have 1 dose in Europe and 1 dose in the US because my health records aren't connected. My second dose is next week. Kinda blows (for me) that it will be 3 more weeks until I'm fully vaxxed.

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Jul 30, 2021 - 12:41am

For the people in IB that haven't got the vax yet, what's your plan? Aren't most banks mandating that you have to have the vax to go back to the office? Actually wondering as someone who also hasn't gotten the vax yet

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jul 30, 2021 - 3:13am

that haven't got the vax yet

But homie, we'll never get that shit. Does my bank ask me if I'm vaccinated against polio? Diphtheria (highly contagious bacterial infection, spread by coughs and sneezes)? Pertussis (highly contagious bacterial infection of the lungs and airways)? No? They can fuck right off.

Sep 21, 2021 - 8:52am

Oh sure they are saying that in public.  But like the airlines it will fall by the wayside.  It is pretty obvious at this point the vaccine isn't effective as a vaccine and is marginally effective as a short term profilactic.  Hell even the discussion of the boosters is dying away. 

Jul 30, 2021 - 8:44am

I don't trust govt bureaucracy

I don't trust fauci

I don't trust most of big pharma

I don't trust the media

and when someone tells me more and more to do/not do something, I immediately want to do the opposite

that said, I got the jnj shot and had absolutely no side effects, worked out for an hour that day. I looked at it like this - 3 doctors in my network who all share my political skepticism and views on exercise/diet got their shots and recommended I do the same. I also realized that it was going to be incredibly difficult to continue life as normal without the shot (client meetings, air travel, etc.) regardless of whether or not I agreed with it, but I decided that my personal level of health is probably in the top 0.1% in the country and the downsides from taking it did not outweigh the upsides, plus I'm not arrogant enough to pretend I understand the science. I could be wrong and maybe I'll grow a tail later or more likely the immunity protection will be weaker than my natural immunity and it was all for naught, but that was a trade I was willing to make.

that, I don't fear death, and I'm already a bit autistic so can't get much worse yaknow

Aug 3, 2021 - 11:10am

I completely agree, or if they gave trump credit for operation warp speed and how the numbers would've shaken out

it's like no one has read the boy who cried wolf, if you yell about something and it doesn't come to fruition, the next time you yell people believe you less and less and you never get that credibility back. like now with the masks. biden says if you've been vaxxed you don't need it, but now it's like NOT SO FAST. either they're wrong about moving back towards a mask mandate or biden spoke too soon, either way fucking awful communication from all parties involved, furthering my distrust of centralized anything

Jul 30, 2021 - 1:45pm

I'm double vaxxed and recommend it for others, too. That said, people are not going to respond to the party in power berating them, calling them evil, telling them they are stupid for not getting the vaccine, etc. It's a ridiculous way to persuade people. In fact, I think the people talking like this know it's counterproductive but they are more interested in feeling morally superior than seeing increased vaccine rates.

What the gov't should have done from the beginning is laid out the facts. Here are the known side effects--you have a 1 in x chance to have these known side effects. If you're vaccinated, you are x times less likely to get Covid, x times less likely to be hospitalized, and x times less likely to die than if you're unvaccinated. All vaccines have risks; not getting vaccinated has its risks. You make your own risk assessment.

For reasons I simply don't understand, they wouldn't do this. Instead, practically everything the autistic jackasses in the "health community" have done during Covid has been garbage--terrible messaging, politicization, lying, fudging data, fear-mongering, half truths, calling themselves heroes, hiding data, demanding censorship, etc. The health community has completely undermined its credibility in the last 18 months. Many people don't trust them, including me, and I'm double vaxxed.

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  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Aug 7, 2021 - 5:43pm

From the FAQ section on the CDC's website:

  • Getting COVID-19 may offer some natural protection, known as immunity. Current evidence suggests that reinfection with the virus that causes COVID-19 is uncommon in the 90 days after initial infection. However, experts don't know for sure how long this protection lasts, and the risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19 far outweighs any benefits of natural immunity.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/answering-questions.html

The more recent release still shows those previously infected should still get vaccinated:

  • The study of hundreds of Kentucky residents with previous infections through June 2021 found that those who were unvaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated.  The findings suggest that among people who have had COVID-19 previously, getting fully vaccinated provides additional protection against reinfection.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.ht…

Sep 21, 2021 - 8:57am

LOL I loved that bullshit about the vaccine being a more effective preventative.  I know tons of vaxxed people, I would say 20% of them have tested positive since getting vaxxed.  Of the people I know who got covid and didn't get the shots 0 of them have gotten covid.  Before you go and tell me about sample sizes.  The sample size of those who got covid and no vax is about 4x the size of the other group.  

This entire thing has been a giant mess by the government spewing constant lies to sooze their political base.  This is true for Biden and Trump.

Jul 30, 2021 - 3:08pm

I was going to, then the liberals in France and Italy went batshit insane with laws saying that if you don't get vaccinated and bring yourself proof of it (the ''green pass'') everywhere, you can't go to restaurants, cinemas, gyms etc. Basically to enjoy basic freedoms now you have to allow the government to inject you substances that might as well kill you and also allow them to track you?

The only sane reaction to something like that is: ''go fuck yourselves. You think you have the right to ruin people's lives? I will ruin yours.'' No vaccine, no masks. Spread the variants, make new ones. Nobody is ever going to enjoy their freedoms again. Masks for everyone and lockdowns forever. Idgaf.

Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.

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Aug 2, 2021 - 2:09am

I hope BLM vandalizes your house

Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.

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  • Analyst 2 in IB - Cov
Aug 3, 2021 - 11:07am

If the FDA approves and puts out side effects.  I would be open to getting the vaccine.  

Jul 31, 2021 - 5:40pm

Young and healthy, so face no real risks from COVID.  The vaccine is probably fine, but it's still effectively experimental, have no idea what the long-term side effects are, and has still not gone through standard FDA approval process, so no reason for me to incur risk associated w/ taking it.  Also, there's no incentive to take it if you still have to mask up, distance, etc. 

Tangentially related, Tony Fauci is a lying, politically motivated hack who has serially lied to the American people and congress about everything from efficacy of masks/distancing to funding gain of function research at the Wuhan institute.  

I come from down in the valley, where mister when you're young, they bring you up to do like your daddy done

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Jul 31, 2021 - 5:43pm

Turns out the vaccine does nothing substantial in terms of preventing delta variant spread, so Fauci & Co are already saying time to lockdown and mask up for round 2. Have fun being pharma guinea pigs while they rake in record profits for a vaccine that doesn't do dick for the new flavor of COVID. 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/07/30/102286…

It also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.

The CDC said the finding that fully vaccinated people could spread the virus was behind its move to change its mask guidance.

Jul 31, 2021 - 10:31pm

As a Black man (yes I'm making it about race again... I'm that guy so get uncomfortable), America's long winded history of medical racism and the various leaked audios and interviews of Caucasians (like those french doctors caught red handed and mainstream media not reporting on it) speaking on testing out the vaccine on Negroes in America and Africans on the continent, is enough to make me say, "fuck the vaccine." Even if I get covid and die from it, I'll never take that shit. 

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Aug 1, 2021 - 10:45am

This comment kinda sounds similar to the guy who said God will save him and rejected ventilators / vilified vaccines before he died.

Not sure where you got the testing vaccines on Africans Americans / Africans - everybody was testing everywhere, from Latin America to Middle East to Asia. 

Aug 1, 2021 - 10:54am

Not sure why this is getting MS.  This is a completely reasonable response imo and is widely held among members of the Black community.  See vaccine percentages broken down by racial demographics.

It is ridiculous that the media says it is those selfish Trump supporters refusing to get vaxxed (even though it isn't a vaccine lol) when in reality, the people not getting the jab are people who have been totally marginalized by society for decades, and will be further marginalized for exercising their rights in this situation.  Referring to low income whites, blacks, latinos who are frequently fucked over by the government and have no real voice in society / public discourse.

Absolute clown world we live in.  I can't wait for the mental gymnastics metropolitan liberals will go through when they ban the majority of black people (approx. 60% in NYC) from their businesses because they aren't jabbed and then post their BLM signs on their instagram.  

Aug 1, 2021 - 1:52pm

this particular vaccine is available to the first world first (US, Europe) - your brothers and sisters in Africa are still waiting to get a hold of it, half a year later it became available to Caucasians. all the wealthy and powerful (mainly whites) got it before others. so, I don't see your point how it's being tested on Black people.

Aug 1, 2021 - 9:23pm

Yes, but did you not notice several liberal jurisdictions calling for "equity vaccine access" (read: poor minorities being given the vaccine first). It does raise serious questions given past historical events that [PrivateTechquity 🚀GME🚀] posted.

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Aug 1, 2021 - 10:20am

Check out a real Emergency Physicians forum discussion: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/i-hate-an…

I'll listen to these folks on the front lines before finance folks

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/covid-back.1446105/page-3#post…
 

The comments on this thread are comical, you all have truly been duped by pundits and morons and rather listen to them than actual immunologists and front line docs. 

muh immune system muh rights! Lol. And the weak breakthrough argument claiming that means it doesn't work - wow this has devolved into a breitbart level clownshow site 

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Aug 1, 2021 - 10:49am

Yea vaccines have been deployed for several months now and there are solid empirical evidence that it works, especially with the western vaccines. 

Tbh I think COVID is such a darwinian virus - those who are weak and dumb are killed, and those who are smart enough to be healthy and protect themselves are safe.

Aug 1, 2021 - 5:06pm

dutchduke

Check out a real Emergency Physicians forum discussion: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/i-hate-an…

I'll listen to these folks on the front lines before finance folks

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/covid-back.1446105/page-3#post…
 

The comments on this thread are comical, you all have truly been duped by pundits and morons and rather listen to them than actual immunologists and front line docs. 

muh immune system muh rights! Lol. And the weak breakthrough argument claiming that means it doesn't work - wow this has devolved into a breitbart level clownshow site 

Weak breakthrough argument? Literally from the mouth of the CDC:

It also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.

The CDC said the finding that fully vaccinated people could spread the virus was behind its move to change its mask guidance.

IE yes the vaccine lowers the effects of the virus on YOU the individual, but does almost nothing to prevent you from catching or spreading it. This is obviously with respect to the new delta variant, but if every new variant is going to require a new vaccine and they all have an >99.9% survival rate, tell me again what the fucking point of taking something that's not even FDA approved is at this point?

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PrivateTechquity 🚀GME🚀

dutchduke

Check out a real Emergency Physicians forum discussion: https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/i-hate-an…

I'll listen to these folks on the front lines before finance folks

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/covid-back.1446105/page-3#post…
 

The comments on this thread are comical, you all have truly been duped by pundits and morons and rather listen to them than actual immunologists and front line docs. 

muh immune system muh rights! Lol. And the weak breakthrough argument claiming that means it doesn't work - wow this has devolved into a breitbart level clownshow site 

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Weak breakthrough argument? Literally from the mouth of the CDC:

It also found no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar.

The CDC said the finding that fully vaccinated people could spread the virus was behind its move to change its mask guidance.

IE yes the vaccine lowers the effects of the virus on YOU the individual, but does almost nothing to prevent you from catching or spreading it. This is obviously with respect to the new delta variant, but if every new variant is going to require a new vaccine and they all have an >99.9% survival rate, tell me again what the fucking point of taking something that's not even FDA approved is at this point?

God no wonder we are in this mess with the same bullshit do-loop from stick up the ass people like this lol go read what the physicians are saying, which is the breakthroughs are not causing severe illness or death and the breakthroughs are mostly the elderly. There is a physician in the links I sent named birdstrike go follow his posts. 

What's the "fucking" point? The point is all the emergency room physicians are seeing 95%+  unvaccinated bums sick in their ER and creating a situation where they can't provide proper care for other emergencies. The point for you "muh immune system" self is ERs are getting packed with people like yourself And ruining care for others buddy. 99.9% , you feel so good about that number, good luck with it and when that tube goes in you, hopefully the last show you'll see on the ER TV is tucker Carlson telling you you were a real American patriot. 

  • Intern in AM - Equities
Aug 1, 2021 - 12:28pm

If people who are vulnerable are vaccinated, and you can still spread it if vaccinated why do I need to get the vaccine? I'm at no risk. I've had covid already

Aug 1, 2021 - 12:57pm

That's a bit of a more unique situation,I'm not arguing about antibodies etc  but clearly the guys at the front lines with full ERs full of unvaccinated bums are saying this is a pathetic and unnecessary development. 

Aug 1, 2021 - 3:05pm

The fact that the absence of any type of liability by manufacturers and that there are no peer reviewed studies on long term effects about a therapy that permanently alters the dna of the receptor are denominated "conspiracy theories" by some, talks volumes about the imbecility levels of alleged adults that behave like trained pets without the slightest trace of critical thinking.

Everything that doesn't appear on tv is a "conspiracy theory" nowadays, it's unbelievable that such idiots can be trusted with the smallest level of responsibility, I'm not surprised why there are constant financial companies that blow out and need to be bailed out with billions of tax payers money year in and year out.It's clear that going to college making a little numbers and have a well paid job doesn't exime nobody of being an absolute stupid idiot....

Aug 1, 2021 - 7:22pm

This topic seems to be becoming a discussion similar to sports teams and religion. No one feels that they are wrong and both sides are stuck in their way too much to have an actual conversation.

  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Aug 7, 2021 - 8:56pm

Wouldn't care if over a million people died of it. People die all the time, for all kinds of reasons. It's a fuckin germ, not about to adjust my life or start listening to politicians just because some geriatrics and young people with shit genetics kick the bucket from a virus that for the majority is barely worse than the common cold. Can't say I'm surprised some corp strat bitch is terrified of CNNs wailing. 

Aug 9, 2021 - 10:12am

Wouldn't care if over a million people died of it. People die all the time, for all kinds of reasons. It's a fuckin germ, not about to adjust my life or start listening to politicians just because some geriatrics and young people with shit genetics kick the bucket from a virus that for the majority is barely worse than the common cold. Can't say I'm surprised some corp strat bitch is terrified of CNNs wailing. 

Omg you hurt my feelings SO MUCH by insulting my job lmao

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Aug 2, 2021 - 11:11pm

I hope every single person who won't get the vaccine due to political reasons gets severe COVID.

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Aug 3, 2021 - 1:09pm

You're totally right. I shouldn't hope all people who refuse the vaccine due to political reasons get severe COVID because that would overwhelm the healthcare system (and it already has in some states). That potentially harms people who actually deserve care. So I don't hope they all get severe COVID but I will still find it funny every time I read about the antivaxxers who do.

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Aug 7, 2021 - 8:53pm

thurnis haley

I hope every single person who won't get the vaccine due to political reasons gets severe COVID.

The party of compassion ladies and gentlemen. "If it even saves one life these restrictions will have been worth it" but also "Fuck you if you don't buy this pharmaceutical product that the government told you to even though there's 0 long-term research to show it's safe." The cognitive dissonance/sheer stupidity is just impressive at this point. 

Aug 9, 2021 - 10:28am

You're so incredibly butthurt it's fucking hilarious. And what's even funnier is we basically agree on some things here (for different reasons). I say that all of this effort by the federal government to try to get the holdouts vaccinated is a waste of time. We both agree on this: Let people who don't want to be vaccinated stay unvaccinated. The only difference is you think the consequences of taking the vaccine are worse than the consequences of getting COVID (likely because someone told you that COVID was a hoax in the first place) and I say that getting COVID is a worse risk than the risks from the vaccine. I've simply decided to not listen to the creationists, white nationalists, evangelicals, stable geniuses, grifters, xenophobes (etc) when it comes to science. And I think this issue will sort itself out since the states where people won't get vaccinated are places I don't really consider to be "my fellow Americans" anyways. I have no idea why you're accusing me of claiming to have compassion. Zero compassion here and proud of it! Let them all get severe COVID. Please. 

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  • Analyst 2 in RE - Comm
Aug 4, 2021 - 10:37am

I'm vaccinated, but fully respect anyone's decision not to as long as they have reasons for it. I got it because my family has multiple immunocompromised members and I see them often. I get you can still infect others but it reduces the risk.

Basically everyone I have talked to who won't get the vaccine has zero quality reasons. Most are blatant responses screaming "You'll be dead in two years! Microchip! Government bad!" "mRNA bad but I can't tell you what mRNA is!"

I will trust the thousands of medical professionals and scientists who have taken it themselves and released studies over Billy in Alabama. Funniest thing, is, when people love to post the one article of a doctor or scientist saying the vaccine is bad fitting their agenda from some obscure news source yet completely ignore the thousand of published articles saying the effectiveness. Or posting an article how two people had bad side effects yet fail to realize that over 160M just in the US have been vaccinated. The same people who scream 99% survival of COVID yet harp on a less than .001% vaccine risk.

  • VP in RE - Comm
Aug 4, 2021 - 2:05pm

I'll provide some perspective on why I'm not rushing to get it as of now, and it involves nothing more than what I know from my own life and experience because I haven't trusted the news or the government for many years now. I'll also preface this by saying that my opinion would be different had I not had covid, but my experience with it thus far is entirely what has formed my decisions to date. 

I got the rona in Dec 20. The only symptom I really had was loss of smell for a period of time. I was SUPER careful up until this point, didn't do shit, masked and washed my hands like crazy, was overall as miserable as can be, which possibly probably contributed to me getting it. After this point everything changed, and I officially don't and haven't given a flying fuck about covid since. Had the best year of my life since too.

I just returned home from a long stint working remotely around the US + europe and planned to get vaxxed as soon as I returned, but now I'm not in a rush after seeing recent developments w delta. During my travels I encountered a ton of people that got sick - most of them were double vaxxed. One of them was even a girl I was hooking up with - she got it (double vaxxed for 3 months aka should be peak protection), I didn't it. I've had countless expsoure instances like this in the past few months. By the way these aren't "mostly elderly people" with the breakthroughs - from what I've seen, and again this is at least 50 people now, it's all our peers in their 20s and 30s.

This obviously changed my vax plans drastically. Why the f should I jab myself with something that clearly doesn't do its job, while my body has seemingly done its job just fine on its own? To appease the parrots screaming about how I'm an insensitive asshole only thinking about myself? My grandfather just died from covid this summer as he got caught in this surprise delta wave, so I have a meaningful life event, unlike most of the SJWs, that factors into my decision. If it isn't clear by now, the vax doesn't protect you from spreading it nor getting it, but seems to help with symptoms. Therefore, in my case, it doesn't help me, or others, with shit.

Literally the only reason I'm currently considering it is because not having it makes life a nuisance in the present state of affairs. Not because dumbass fauci said so. Not because it will protect others, which it won't. But because I won't be able to go eat dinner or go to the gym without presenting what looks like a library card from 1995 to some person that also doesn't give a fuck but just needs to check a box. LOL, just saying this shit is sad - what a joke of a place we have gotten to with this bs. 

My opinion may change in the future, given new information, as it should for any normal non-mouthing breathing individual capable of making their own decisions. But currently, for all these reasons, I'M OUT.  /rant

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Aug 9, 2021 - 3:35am

Btw just curious - after covid did you have any long term side effects? As far as I know, the reason governments are not labelling covid similar to a flu is because of their potential long term effects that some people got (not sure if this is due to covid or not, but yea). 

But one thing I don't understand is if you get covid aren't you also labelled as a part of herd immunity group? Not sure why the government is ignoring the group that were healed and only account for vaccinated. 

Aug 4, 2021 - 5:15pm

I am but my mom isn't because she has GBS. She got a flu shot for the first time a few years ago and within days out of no where she was paralyzed from the waist down, it took her two years to learn to walk again. When I got my vax in March, I remember reading the fine print on the CVS I went to saying that if you have a history or family of GBS you shouldn't get the shot (I didn't care wanted to take the risk and get the vax anyway). But now I'm hearing it doesn't have the fine print about GBS on the form any more so yeah...

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
Aug 7, 2021 - 6:05pm

*Sitting in front of my TV in 2028

"If you or a loved once received the COVID-19 vaccine and developed health complications, you may be entitled …"

  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Aug 7, 2021 - 8:52pm

Except they won't be because the makers are immune from liability. Wooo government. 

Aug 8, 2021 - 12:30am

Because I have not seen any proof that the vaccine is better than natural immunity which I have already after contracting the virus in the winter time. The studies attempting to show superiority of these vaccines over natural immunity are flawed and not very convincing, especially the one the CDC was touting today.

Interestingly, the WHO changed its definition of "herd immunity" in the middle of this pandemic. For decades, "herd immunity" referred to the total number of vax'd people plus survivors of the real thing. Late 2020, WHO mysteriously changed their definition to exclude the naturally immune. Not suggesting anything conspiratorial since we all know the WHO would never act in bad faith, just find it odd

Aug 11, 2021 - 3:24am

Also for the memes.

sdasd

Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.

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