Games of Thrones S8 E6 Series Finale Discussion [SPOILERS]

What the fuck.

This episode was going so well right until Drogon left King's Landing. He should've bowed down and let Jon on his back. I know this show is supposed to never go as we want it to but c'mon man, missed opportunity for him to put everyone in their place. Imagine him threatening to dick on the unsullied and dothraki if they didn't bend the knee (totally out of his character, I know).

That being said, I'm actually quite satisfied with Jon's ending (probably an unpopular opinion). The last thing he said to Tyrion was a quote from Master Aemon about the death of love for duty, and now he is going to the north beyond the wall, giving up his heritage as a Targaryen just as Aemon did. He never wanted the crown, and is getting as close to a happy ending as possible.

Jon is the King beyond the wall, Sansa is the Queen in the North, and Bran is the King of the 7 Kingdoms. Starks in 6 for the title, GG.

  • The unsullied are just gonna fuck off now that they lost Dany? What about the Dothraki?
  • So why exactly is Bran the one-eyed raven and what was the entire point of this?
  • Arya is gonna discover America? Ok.. I guess..
  • Bran the Broken, an asspull or deserved?

I feel pretty mixed about this episode so I can only sum it up by saying: Whatever, it's over.

Oh yeah, and I saw a funny post from Reddit about Tyrion's joke he made at the table at the end.

"I once brought a honeycomb and a jackass into a brothel"

Well since they never let Tyrion finish, here is one version of the joke:

Tyrion walks into a brothel with a honeycomb and a jackass. Madame: What can we do for you? Tyrion: I need a woman to lay with, for mine has left me. Madame: Whatever for? And what's with the honeycomb and the mule? Tyrion: My woman found a genie in a bottle, and he granted her three wishes. The first was for a house fit for a queen, so he gave her this damn honeycomb. The second wish was that she have the nicest ass in all the land, so he gave her this damn donkey... Madame: And what about the third wish? Tyrion: Well... she asked the genie to make my cock hang down past my knee. Madame: Well that one's not so bad eh? Tyrion: Not so bad!? I used to be six foot three!

Comments (51)

May 19, 2019

Shitty finale. I don't care what anyone has to say, they screwed this up chief

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May 19, 2019

Speechless. Bran was my least favorite character as it is. Do better, HBO.

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May 22, 2019

I'm going to go now...

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May 20, 2019

I liked the general direction of the ending, but the execution was pretty poor. They really could have had season 8 just focused on the Night King, and season 9 on Dany becoming the Mad Queen.

May 20, 2019

It was a bad finale but hard to see it made good any other way. Can't blame the fuckwit producers since they did a fantastic job until they ran out of source material, which is on the author.

Ty

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May 20, 2019

Disappointed cannot begin to describe how I feel.
They wasted so much screen play on useless plots. If they ran out of ideas they could've just used GRRMs Blackfyre. But no, what we get is the Broken. Wtf.
This just proves sometimes it's better to do what's expected.

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May 20, 2019

A disappointing finale to cap off a disappointing final season. There was no build-up for Bran becoming king, no rationale for Jon returning to the Night's Watch now that the Night King is dead, and no closure in watching Drogon, the unsullied, and the dothraki just disappear after losing their queen.

Also there are still too many loose ends which were either unaddressed or handled poorly:
- Why was Jon brought back from the dead? To kill Dany? Why was his role so special when there are so many others who could have done this? His character has done virtually nothing this season.
- How are the other six kingdoms expected to accept this new king? What about Dorne? The Iron Islands? Do they not care about being independent any more?
- What was the point of Jaime's character arc if he went back to Cersei in the end?
- What about the Night King? What were his motives? Why did the characters completely gloss over him and not discuss this once he was dead?
- Why is Arya suddenly interested in exploring the Sunset Sea? Again, not much build-up for this.

I also dispute that this is the end of the series. If I understand correctly, GoT is the most commercially successful TV show of all time. I expect there to be spin-offs and prequels in the works.

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May 20, 2019
Leon Dragonov:

I expect there to be spin-offs and prequels in the works.

There is already a prequel that is likely to debut next year focusing on the age of heroes/the long night/ potentially the Andal invasion. Also, there are already two more spin-offs in development and HBO has discussed as many as five total spin-offs.

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May 20, 2019

Dear God. They must be projecting one gigantic subscriber exodus starting last night.

May 20, 2019

From what I understand the prequel will focus on the origins of the NK, and life beyond the wall. I for one hope they ramp up production on a sequel starring Aria as I think she has become one of the clear favorites, especially with how this last season unfolded.

It will be interesting to see if they create any sequel spin-offs, but those would beg the question, why not another season? I think almost every viewer could point to at least one part of the most recent season and claim that it seemed rushed. The whole season seemed rushed IMO. I don't think 6 episodes or roughly 8 hours was enough time to wrap up the series properly.

May 20, 2019
Leon Dragonov:
  • Why is Arya suddenly interested in exploring the Sunset Sea? Again, not much build-up for this.

This was foreshadowed in s6 - Arya says the same thing she said to Jon to lady crane when after she got stabbed by the waif

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May 21, 2019

And the name of her wolf nymeria

May 20, 2019
champagnepaki:

* Bran the Broken, an asspull or deserved?

I think there was a part of the series where Tyrion told bran something along the lines of "you are a cripple. But if you own it, if you let it be a part of you, nobody can ever use that against you".

I thought it was a nice homage to that.

Overall I liked the concept of the ending, but agree with others that the season was rushed. Imagine how much more could have been addressed / slowed down / correctly built up to with just 2 or 3 more episodes.

May 20, 2019

Lets not forget about the Lord of Light, that god that totally fucking exists and does a ton of shit during the show. And then they just like fucking forget about him.

K

Also Jon is such a baby. I hated at least 50% of the words that came out of his mouth this season. My prediction was that they would either give Bran the crown or do a democracy, and they kinda did both, so thats that I guess.

Dayman?

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May 23, 2019

There is only one god and his name is the faceless god

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May 20, 2019

Corny. I don't think I've seen a better way to describe it. For so much of this show I'd be willing to do a massive write-up on it and the pros and cons but I just don't care anymore. The show has been declining for multiple seasons now but they CLEARLY didn't care at all this season and wanted to go to Star Wars (more money likely there but come on.. hand it off to someone else to finish then). This was the big chance to put high fantasy in the minds of so many people and solidify it as a defining genre to a wider audience and they fuucking mailed it in and peaced out. Unbelievable.

May 20, 2019

Looks like that theory of yours really panned out.

May 20, 2019

Sort of. They didn't even mention The Great Other though so it makes little sense. If you just assume The Great Other is still out there then it at least somewhat makes sense that everyone is cool with the Starks being masters of the universe and Bran being protector of the realm. Their explanation of "he has the best stories" for being the King was stupid AF. You know who has a good story? How about Jon Snowgaryan (who also came back to life via a GOD??) and Arya killing the embodiment of death but naw, broken boi FTW because he was pushed out a window.

May 20, 2019

Potentially dumb question.

They banished Jon to the Night's Watch. Why is the Night's Watch still a thing? The Night King is dead and the North is getting along with the Wildlings.

May 20, 2019

I don't think there is a night watch. At the end, you see Jon going with Tormond beyond the "wall", without any nights watch. I would think they are all dead given the battles.

May 20, 2019

The North is independent and Sansa is the North Queen. Bran (Stark) is the King of the South. Jon's banishment is pointless because neither would enforce it. Also, the island that the Unsullied are going to is inhabited by butterflies that are poisonous to foreigners so they're all gonna die when they get there.

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May 20, 2019

Lol really? Thats kinda funny. I was thinking the people of Naath are gonna be really fuckin uncomfortable when this army of dickless dudes just like rolls up.

Dayman?

May 20, 2019

Not a dumb question at all. There is no point in having the Night's Watch anymore. Theoretically, you could argue that they would defend the North from the wildlings, but assuming they stay under Tormund's control any sort of potential future conflict is highly unlikely. Maybe that is part of Bran/Sansa's plan, abandon the Night's Watch in the near future so Jon becomes a frre man again? My thought was the only reason it hadn't been disbanded yet was because there were more pressing fish to fry, and that it would probably happen in the near future.

May 20, 2019

Still doesn't make sense sadly. The Unsullied just leave so there's nobody to enforce the punishment. Also, the island the Unsullied are going to will kill them as its protected due to butterflies poisonous to outsiders.

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May 20, 2019

Tyrion: "Nobody can defeat a good story"

Me: "Except for Dan and Dave"

That pretty much sums up the last two seasons.

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May 20, 2019

1.) Did Dany's army multiply every episode after the Battle of Winterfell or is that just me?

2.) Dany's death was anticlimactic

3.) WTF was Bran doing during the battle of Winterfell when he said "I am going to go now"? He is the worst major character on this show other than the night king.

4.) Lol @ Edmure Tully

5.) The handling of Jon at the end was disappointing, never expected him to sit on the Iron Throne but also didn't expect the ridiculous exile.

6.) Greyworm survived this whole thing? Disappointed

7.) Drogon headed back to Valyria to hang out with his other dragons that are still probably there?

Anyway 7/10 for the episode, 7/10 for the season. Battle of Winterfell and the night king might as well have never happened, ended up being entirely irrelevant like the Golden Company.

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May 20, 2019

Thought the biggest mistake with the season was not giving it a full 10 eps, gonna need a good reason from D&D for that. However, i liked the ending. I think people who are upset with how it ends shouldn't be blaming the writers, as GRRM said that the ending for the show and the books are going to be the same for all the major characters (ending for secondary characters might be different). I think if we had 10 eps for s7 and s8, they could've developed the plot at a better pace to make everything not feel rushed.

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May 20, 2019
Paulie Walnuts:

Thought the biggest mistake with the season was not giving it a full 10 eps

Couldn't agree more. The plot moved way too quickly and so many things that happened felt undeserved.

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May 20, 2019

The episode didn't start too terribly with Tyrion + Jon and the first half of the Dany + Jon interaction but boy did it go down from there. That council meeting was terrible and the dragon pit was worse, from "lets all listen to the dude in chains because this was supposed to be a trial?" to "well the north tried really hard so we should be our own kingdom". Those scenes were written like a bad high school play. I award you no points D&D and may God have mercy on your soul.

May 20, 2019

Exactly! That scene and the council meeting scene felt like Comicon fans cosplaying at worst, high school play at best.

May 20, 2019
RenewableMonkey:

"lets all listen to the dude in chains because this was supposed to be a trial?" to "well the north tried really hard so we should be our own kingdom". Those scenes were written like a bad high school play.

Both of those are absurd if you think about them. Tyrion is on trial and somehow turns that into not only picking the king but reversing thousands of years of hereditary monarchy and implementing a monarchy based on oligarchy or kingsmoot. And no one really questions it or debates it.

Then, after everyone just blindly goes along with this decision, and all of them vote yes except for the North, Sansa just goes "nah, I'm going to be independent" and the rest of them are not only ok with that but don't also demand their own independence. (The Iron Islands?)

The whole scene was atrocious from the beginning after the abrupt cut away from Dany's death to a weird "3 months later..." type deal, but the content was laughable.

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May 20, 2019

Does anyone know when JPM's wealth management app opens?

EDIT: WHOOPS did not mean to ask this on this thread. No idea how it ended up on here lmao

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May 20, 2019

I'm certainly no expert but I feel like there are better threads to ask this.

Dayman?

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May 20, 2019

SMH

May 20, 2019

There's always that one guy -_-

May 21, 2019

Ill tell you only if you well me when the iron banks IBD app opens

May 20, 2019

Ya, well.

Predicted something like that in The Book of The Underdog

May 20, 2019

Keep up hope boys, the Spinoffs if they aren't directed by morons will hopefully pick up the slack.

So many things they could explore

Dunk and Egg

The dance of dragons

The rise of the Valyrian Freehold, Dragons, Slaves, and Bloodmagic

The Long Night

I hope one of these topics gets adopted into television.

Ty

May 20, 2019

The long night is pretty much confirmed as the first prequel, George R.R. Martin wants the first prequel's title to be... The Long Night (HBO shot this down). In any case I believe that has started filming and should be on deck for 2020. As for prequels (other than the long night) I want:

  • The Doom of Valyria or rise of Valyria (or both? - if they pick one I'd rather the Doom): one of the greatest empires in history all of a sudden gets wiped of the map, what happened? Another empire far more advanced than Westeros. Would explain a TON if they dove into this empire (why does Valyrian steel kill white walkers and how was it made, for example).
  • A show set East of Essos (Golden Empire of Yi Ti, Asshai...): It appears Yi Ti is more advanced than any other empire (it existed before Valyria and still exists as of the end of GoT) which is intriguing as hell. Valyria never conquered them, do they have a way to slay dragons en masse? Asshai is where Melisandre is from, the land of magic where all practitioners are welcome. A deeper dive into this land could reveal alot of stuff we don't know, especially regarding the Lord of Light and magic in general. This could also be where we explore Sothyros and the thousand isles, etc.
  • The Ghiscari Wars: The other great empire of Essos (along with Valyria and Yi Ti). The war with Valyria would be epic (Dragons vs. Harpies?). The Unsullied are remnants of their tactics, so are the slave holding cities such as Yunkai. Would be interested in exploring this society. This could tie into a Rise of Valyria series since they defeated the Ghiscari over five wars.
  • Invasion of the Andals: Came after the first men formed the pact with the children and after the long night. Quickly overran southern Westeros, religion of seven still dominates. Dumbass religion saw all magic as evil and almost drove the children to extinction as a result. A huge reason why Westeros was so damn stupid when it came to the mystical arts.

I don't really care for any of the more recent stories (Robert's Rebellion, Aegon's conquest etc.) as they are pretty well "known" by now. As you can see from the above, Westeros during game of thrones was essentially Europe during the dark ages. Significantly dumber and less educated than both their surroundings (compared to Essos) and than previous great kingdoms/empires (Valyria). Series regarding the topics above would do ALOT to explain events on GoT and widen our massive knowledge gap of the potential of that world. Also so many other lands (Sothyros, Ulthos, thousand islands etc.) with so many different creatures (like basilisks)/ types of humans (apparently Sothyros women can't mate with Essos/ Westeros ppl) that could be worth exploring.

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May 22, 2019

I just hope the books are published before the old man croaks. I can assure you the books will be worth the wait and I imagine the ending in the books will look VASTLY different that the TV show.

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