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You should just tough it out and speak with him once. The only other option is to not speak with him again, but you need all the help you can get since you are a non-target. Good luck.
You're right, plain and simple. Ill do my best to stay on his radar and be patient.
lol he's super busy and you will always be second compared to his work. Sure he should try to keep the times but it seems things come up which happens often in banking. I'd just keep trying and staying persistent or feel free to find someone else.
Please...everyone puts in time to research before a call...even if some sector different.
Very fair, appreciate the advice. Maybe its because im not accustomed to reaching out to MDs that this experience seems unusual. I will continue to be polite and patient, this is what I needed to hear.
went through this same exact situation this spring. Guy didnt respond to about 6 emails, constantly ignored calls after telling me specific times to call him, the whole nine yards. It stressed me out. I believed he was acknowledging my presence so as to not displease the contact that orchestrated the meeting, but kept blowing me off in hope that I'd eventually just give up. But I needed the job so I had to play his stupid games.
called his mentor (luckily i know him) and asked him how the hell i get this guys attention. he advised me to tell him im not fucking around and am serious about the opportunity. What did I do? cold called the MD, straight up said "I dont have time for this anymore. I completely understand if this isnt going to work out, but please just tell me now if its not. Otherwise, I have to start spending my time elsewhere because its getting to be crunch time"
dude admired the fuck out of it. told me he was sorry and that I should come into the office on x day. Ended up getting the job and everything.
If he does give you a chance, though, make sure youre prepared as absolute fuck. The good news is you dont really have a choice because youll be so sick and tired of waiting that youll be motivated to get in there and land a fucking job. but know the company inside and out. know what the banker specifically does. and honestly, dont try to ask home run questions asking about x deal or something of the like. Just use your questions to demonstrate that youre a humble, hardworking kid interested in the business because you like challenging/competitive environments.
If he has responded for this long then eventually he'll have to meet with you no matter what. if it gets worse than better, notify the guy who set you up with him and explain the situation. If the person who initiated the meeting on your behalf likes you, he'll rip that motherfucker a new one for not taking you seriously. Good luck brotha
This is actually a really interesting story - congrats man
It was a good learning experience for sure. I got really lucky. the positive that I took from it is that if a kid ever has the drive to cold contact me asking for help, im going to bat for him all day long because i know how he'll feel.
This story is a great idea of why the networking "rules" that you get from career services or prep guides should be regarded as loose guidelines.
In the event you get some good intel on how to read whatever your situation is then it's usually best to act appropriately rather than following the standard playbook.
absolutely. Also, kids at my school "network" by putting unnecessary time and energy into getting bankers on the phone and asking a million really complex questions (about things like interest rates, specific deals, ridiculous technicals..)in hope that the banker thinks hes an absolute whiz. I've always had good luck just asking about potential career trajectories and their opinion on the industry and then try to apply it to my own life to personalize the conversation.
I've been in a similar situation and agree, it's disheartening to get blown off by your one and only good lead in the industry. I would reach out again and show absolute flexibility to meet up whenever is best for him/her. I once drove 2 hours (yes, two hours) to meet with this person - guess what ... he wasn't even in town... completely blew me off. I reached out and rescheduled. I didn't show any signs that I was frustrated / upset, didn't even bring it up that he should've showed up. It takes persistence and optimism, don't get stressed. To this day it's impossible to get him to email back / to respond (not that I need to break into the industry anymore, more for continuing to build that relationship/ catching up purposes b/c he's a genuinely good guy), I just think it's in some people's nature to operate like that and I wouldn't let it get to you.
Im gonna follow your advice and try this first, if it really comes down to it, im gonna cold call him as @hopeful123" recommended. Thanks
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