got shat on despite good uni and grades, need help with CV - with new cv

So I've just been turned down for a lot of interviews for full time consulting positions in London and New York. I guess I don't have much work experience, which must have been what fucked me.

Now I'm considering applying to banks for summer internships and then doing a masters degree for a year and coming back strong into the full time job market.

So do you have any comments on 1) why no one is giving me interviews in consulting, 2) what I should change if I'm going to be applying to banks instead?

Thanks in advance

All the names and companies are fake, LSE is real, and the university I went to in the US was somewhere around the level of UVA, Georgetown, or Dartmouth

The CV:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3UUQEUHOHetYzI1…
or
http://pdfcast.org/pdf/cv-71

razume isn't working right now for me, but I'll try again later

 

Take out: Academic Information from before I left is as follows, its weird

You have 2 'and's in the section about being a TA

Your word choices is not good at all. "The society has blah blah blah" should be something like "grew society to over 100 member' or something like that

Don't say "Have used Microsoft word, excel and powerpoint extensively at school' just list what programs you know how to use but do not include word

Proofread

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

Work Experience > MBA straight out of college

Working also pays better. Find companies in fields you would want to consult in (tech, manufacturing, etc) and work there for awhile.

You have a good background for someone out of college but it's a very rough market. There have been kids on this site who came out of Ivy's and couldn't land anything in IB/consulting even months after graduation.

Who you know is more important than what you know so start networking your ass off.

Also, don't procrastinate, finding positions in related areas, because those F500 could be gone by the time you're ready to settle.

Good Luck

 

There are a bunch of other masters programs, both in Europe and the US that would serve you just as well if not better than the MSc in Econ.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
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ok being brutal here, plus a chance to dig at an LSE'r :) (IC speaking).

That's your CV? you have some SERIOUSLY good things on there and you present it as if you're ashamed of it?

Rephrase the lot. e.g. 1st class expected. Prediciton: 1st Class Transferred from fairly high (FAIRLY HIGH - read that to yourself) - Transferred from Top 10 (or just name the damn university) to LSE. Translating your GPA for them... and today on patronise a recruiter we have John.

Coursework included a range of things from cooking to other stuff noone cares about and oh look there's something relevant in there but we stopped reading a while back.

Will receive training? on a CV??? WILL RECEIVE?? this is what you HAVE done. not will do, its not a career bucket list.

All this one of 3 , one of 6, i dont like, say top 3 and remove the one of 6. that means nothing unless we know the background sample count which you arent going to put.

Fairly high ranked uni? is a funi? chop that last work experience out, its poor compared to the rest.

your society has almost 100? that sounds like some weightwatchers fatty going, i'm almost under 100 kgs. its 100. they arent going to headcount.

Have used MIcrosoft excel and word? Who hasn't. They'll only care about excel. Strong/advanced excel skills.

this reads like you hate yourself. if you do, then they will.

Go fix and get a job.

 

Your resume could you use some fine tuning when it comes to word choice and syntax. One of your work experiences at a medical device company sounds intriguing and I think you should consider to refocus some of your energies to working back in US (especially Boston) if you want to break into consulting. Boston has a significant healthcare presence and someone with your background has a decent shot in pursuing an opportunity in such a related field. Granted you would be going up against those who have an undergrad in natural sciences and other related technical majors, you could spin it as saying would possess an "outsider's" perspective. Plus if you're graduating 1st class from LSE studying in econ you're no slouch either.

Best of luck.

 

@happypantsmcgee what are some of those programs?

I should add, though, that part of the reason I was thinking of doing MSc econ is because I am sort of considering eventually doing PHd econ and academia, but that's a whole other deal.

@trazer985 I don't actually write fairly highly ranked uni on the real CV! That's just for anonymity!

I shouldn't translate GPA then? I'm from the US and have a poor sense of what people understand about US marks. Translating the SAT is sensible, though, right?

The student consultancy thing is in the future tense because as of when I wrote it and sent out the applications, the work hadn't started yet. I'll re-write it now that I've done a couple things.

I'll try to rephrase the work experience things and think about getting rid of the TA thing - I just wanted to point out that I was selected for it because I thought it looked pretty good.

I'll also definitely change the skills part and cut down the 'coursework included' part.

Thanks for the help. Any other recommendations?

@deltahedge

Since recruitment season in the US seems to be mostly over, how do you recommend I go about doing this? Cold call/e-mail? Wait for the next recruiting season?

 

I don't know what school you attended back in US, but my guess is if you weren't a complete douche you still have some amigos/alumns from your American school who may still lend you an ear and help you out despite being a Benedict Arnold and transferring to LSE (haha jk I couldn't resist).

Network/email and see if they can help you out. My other piece of advice (though you're in London so it would be tough) is to check out AFLSE where you have Americans who are now back in US that went to LSE and solicit their help as well.

BTW I'm a fellow Benedict Arnold :P.

 

Coming from LSE, I would think MIT would be within your grasp as well as CMU. Princeton likes work experience so that is probably out. There are others you should look at as well. Check out msfhq.com and look through the programs

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

Thanks for the help everyone! Below I have the links to a new and improved resume, this time intended for US audiences. Any thoughts? Wording still too awkward?

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B3UU…

http://pdfcast.org/pdf/sdfjklgh

Deltahedge, I'm afraid my friends at Georgetown were almost all in my year, meaning they're just graduating, so they probably can't help me out much. I'll try the AFLSE, though - I've talked to them briefly before about other stuff. I'll also ask around family friends - I think my dad knows a guy who works in healthcare PE.

As for MSF type stuff, it's tricky because I have not taken a single finance course, and I have some weak spots in math, mainly no linear algebra. In terms of math, by the time I graduate I will have taken: multivariable calc introductory analysis/abstract math real analysis differential equations a fairly advanced (but applied) econometrics course

Also I get the sense that the programs that are worth going to in the US are CMU, MIT, NYU, Columbia, Chicago, Princeton, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell. Is this list more or less correct? Are any missing?

Finally, is there any point in getting an MSF if you don't particularly want to be a trader or quant?

Thanks for all the advice, everyone

 

If you've taken diff eq, real analysis, and multivariable you should have NO problem understanding and enrolling in a linear algebra class. In fact post Calculus II at my school they believed a student had the prerequisites/capability to enroll in EITHER Multivariable Calc (which separates the men from the boys) or linear algebra. Don't sell yourself short when it comes to your mathematical abilities since you clearly had the brainpower to pass the previous courses and move onto a higher level of math.

I'm uncertain about the fluidity of your math skills as by your own admission it's been a long time, but spend a month reviewing old textbooks and you should be able to remember/execute 70-80% of all concepts covered in your previous math courses.

 

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